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Is this an acceptable benchmark?

It's a 10 core VM from a Black Friday sale from a provider that is often quoted on LET, is this an acceptable SSD/CPU benchmark?

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 7 minutes
Processor  : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
CPU cores  : 10 @ 1996.249 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 11.7 GiB
Swap       : 975.0 MiB
Disk       : 470.4 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel     : 5.10.0-20-amd64

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 15.16 MB/s    (3.7k) | 258.10 MB/s   (4.0k)
Write      | 15.17 MB/s    (3.7k) | 259.45 MB/s   (4.0k)
Total      | 30.33 MB/s    (7.5k) | 517.55 MB/s   (8.0k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 1.27 GB/s     (2.4k) | 1.51 GB/s     (1.4k)
Write      | 1.33 GB/s     (2.6k) | 1.61 GB/s     (1.5k)
Total      | 2.60 GB/s     (5.0k) | 3.12 GB/s     (3.0k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed                                                                                                                                                                   | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----                                                                                                                                                                         | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 913 Mbits/sec   | 900 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 24.9 ms
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 874 Mbits/sec   | 897 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 28.1 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 963 Mbits/sec   | 950 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 20.6 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 226 Mbits/sec   | 190 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 190 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 513 Mbits/sec   | 859 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 97.2 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 322 Mbits/sec   | 714 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 133 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 344 Mbits/sec   | 806 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 155 ms

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 634
Multi Core      | 2973

Comments

  • Acceptable.

  • It's very good benchmark for shared resource VPS.

  • Seems reasonable to me.

  • nikozinnikozin Member
    edited December 2022

    @giang said:
    It's very good benchmark for shared resource VPS.

    Why is the 4k IOPS too slow? Is it spinning disk? The offer had 'SSD' advertised.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @nikozin said:
    Processor : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+

    Unacceptable.

  • @yoursunny said:

    @nikozin said:
    Processor : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+

    Unacceptable.

    Is there anyway to identify a hidden CPU model?

  • nikozinnikozin Member
    edited December 2022

    In comparison, here's a 1 Core VPS from a BlackFriday deal from a different LET provider:

    Note This single core VPS is an yearly plan, and its cost is 1-month billing of 10 Core VPS in the opening post (peanuts)

    The Disk IOPS (4k) is significantly better

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 29 days, 21 hours, 50 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2449.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 988.5 MiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 29.4 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel     : 5.4.207
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 287.65 MB/s  (71.9k) | 3.04 GB/s    (47.5k)
    Write      | 288.41 MB/s  (72.1k) | 3.05 GB/s    (47.7k)
    Total      | 576.06 MB/s (144.0k) | 6.09 GB/s    (95.2k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 5.00 GB/s     (9.7k) | 6.90 GB/s     (6.7k)
    Write      | 5.27 GB/s    (10.2k) | 7.36 GB/s     (7.1k)
    Total      | 10.28 GB/s   (20.0k) | 14.26 GB/s   (13.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 907 Mbits/sec   | 756 Mbits/sec   | 6.71 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | busy            | 10.7 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 927 Mbits/sec   | 903 Mbits/sec   | 3.41 ms
    
  • what's your use case? do you have any real world impact or is it just visuals?

    for sure this is ssd as a single spinning disk gives you about 150-200 iops or 150-200MB/s sequential, so even in a raid it would be not even close to the numbers you get.

    7.5-8k obviously is not highend, but should be fine for most tasks anyway. it's simply some SSD array but shared amongst quite some users. and you won't receive NVMe speeds if you buy something with 480GB storage. so I'd rather not compare that one to a 30GB VM, that's just a totally different product/use case.

    anyway, imho that netcup box is still a lot of value for the money and IO with them is usually quite balanced, so what you see is what you get ;-)

    Thanked by 1nikozin
  • nikozinnikozin Member
    edited December 2022

    @Falzo said:
    what's your use case? do you have any real world impact or is it just visuals?

    for sure this is ssd as a single spinning disk gives you about 150-200 iops or 150-200MB/s sequential, so even in a raid it would be not even close to the numbers you get.

    7.5-8k obviously is not highend, but should be fine for most tasks anyway. it's simply some SSD array but shared amongst quite some users. and you won't receive NVMe speeds if you buy something with 480GB storage. so I'd rather not compare that one to a 30GB VM, that's just a totally different product/use case.

    anyway, imho that netcup box is still a lot of value for the money and IO with them is usually quite balanced, so what you see is what you get ;-)

    Nice catch!

    I bought this one specifically for production, bulky database/files (mongod+jre), not complaining, though I was expecting (4k) IOPS a bit on higher side.

    Thanks for your input.

    ** Fresh IOPS test, clean debian install **

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 9.37 MB/s     (2.3k) | 195.53 MB/s   (3.0k)
    Write      | 9.40 MB/s     (2.3k) | 196.56 MB/s   (3.0k)
    Total      | 18.78 MB/s    (4.6k) | 392.10 MB/s   (6.1k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.33 GB/s     (2.6k) | 1.50 GB/s     (1.4k)
    Write      | 1.40 GB/s     (2.7k) | 1.60 GB/s     (1.5k)
    Total      | 2.74 GB/s     (5.3k) | 3.10 GB/s     (3.0k)
    
    Thanked by 1Falzo
  • @nikozin said: bulky database/files (mongod+jre), not complaining, though I was expecting (4k) IOPS a bit on higher side.

    fair enough. afaik their root servers usually give you a bit more IO, but nothing extraordinary either. I guess large disks even if it is 'only' ssd and not nvme mostly come with some other cost like mediocre IO ...

  • 600 single core. Meh

  • @nikozin said:
    In comparison, here's a 1 Core VPS from a BlackFriday deal from a different LET provider:

    Note This single core VPS is an yearly plan, and its cost is 1-month billing of 10 Core VPS in the opening post (peanuts)

    The Disk IOPS (4k) is significantly better


    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 29 days, 21 hours, 50 minutes
    Processor : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 1 @ 2449.998 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 988.5 MiB
    Swap : 0.0 KiB
    Disk : 29.4 GiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel : 5.4.207

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 287.65 MB/s (71.9k) | 3.04 GB/s (47.5k)
    Write | 288.41 MB/s (72.1k) | 3.05 GB/s (47.7k)
    Total | 576.06 MB/s (144.0k) | 6.09 GB/s (95.2k)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 5.00 GB/s (9.7k) | 6.90 GB/s (6.7k)
    Write | 5.27 GB/s (10.2k) | 7.36 GB/s (7.1k)
    Total | 10.28 GB/s (20.0k) | 14.26 GB/s (13.9k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
    ----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 907 Mbits/sec | 756 Mbits/sec | 6.71 ms
    Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | busy | busy | 10.7 ms
    NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | 927 Mbits/sec | 903 Mbits/sec | 3.41 ms

    Those are Rarely Seen Benchmark. You are lucky one to got this. otherways your topics bechmark is almost acceptable except hidden cpu model to me.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited December 2022

    @vitobotta said:
    600 single core. Meh

    And the multi core score means he's not getting the performance of 10 cores...

  • @TimboJones said:

    @vitobotta said:
    600 single core. Meh

    And the multi core score means he's not getting the performance of 10 cores...

    Well, it seems I am stuck with this netcup vm for an year. 13 EUR per month.

    the lscpu says, AuthenticAMD if it matters.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited December 2022

    @nikozin said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @vitobotta said:
    600 single core. Meh

    And the multi core score means he's not getting the performance of 10 cores...

    Well, it seems I am stuck with this netcup vm for an year. 13 EUR per month.

    the lscpu says, AuthenticAMD if it matters.

    You can cancel it within 14 days if you're not happy.
    This VPS selling point isn't pure performance, selling point is 480GB SSD at such good price and 80TB traffic.

  • mgcAnamgcAna Member, Host Rep

    480GB for 13 euro is good deal.You can make good use of it if you utilize all that RAM, for disk base operations, it will not please you.

  • @nikozin said:
    In comparison, here's a 1 Core VPS from a BlackFriday deal from a different LET provider:

    Note This single core VPS is an yearly plan, and its cost is 1-month billing of 10 Core VPS in the opening post (peanuts)

    The Disk IOPS (4k) is significantly better


    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 29 days, 21 hours, 50 minutes
    Processor : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 1 @ 2449.998 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 988.5 MiB
    Swap : 0.0 KiB
    Disk : 29.4 GiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel : 5.4.207

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 287.65 MB/s (71.9k) | 3.04 GB/s (47.5k)
    Write | 288.41 MB/s (72.1k) | 3.05 GB/s (47.7k)
    Total | 576.06 MB/s (144.0k) | 6.09 GB/s (95.2k)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 5.00 GB/s (9.7k) | 6.90 GB/s (6.7k)
    Write | 5.27 GB/s (10.2k) | 7.36 GB/s (7.1k)
    Total | 10.28 GB/s (20.0k) | 14.26 GB/s (13.9k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
    ----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 907 Mbits/sec | 756 Mbits/sec | 6.71 ms
    Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | busy | busy | 10.7 ms
    NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | 927 Mbits/sec | 903 Mbits/sec | 3.41 ms

    provider?

  • @AXYZE said: You can cancel it within 14 days if you're not happy.

    if he bought it during BF it's already past that ;-)
    also their satisfaction guarantue only applies to their RS line, not the VPS.

    if unhappy it's possible to transfer those out at no cost and automated via a transfer token. their forums also have a market place for that. depending on the billing period might be an option to at least cut losses while the contract period is still going on.

  • @Falzo said:
    also their satisfaction guarantue only applies to their RS line, not the VPS.

    In Germany you have 14day contract cancellation law, netcup is German company so ofc it also applies to VPS line.

    https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/widerrufsbelehrung.html
    "You may revoke your contractual declaration in text form (e.g. letter, e-mail) within 14 days without stating reasons."

    Satisfaction guarantee for RS is netcup thing and is 30 days, not 14.

    Btw aren't you German? You should know about 14 day cancellation law, its not new thing.

  • @AXYZE said:

    @Falzo said:
    also their satisfaction guarantue only applies to their RS line, not the VPS.

    In Germany you have 14day contract cancellation law, netcup is German company so ofc it also applies to VPS line.

    https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/widerrufsbelehrung.html
    "You may revoke your contractual declaration in text form (e.g. letter, e-mail) within 14 days without stating reasons."

    Satisfaction guarantee for RS is netcup thing and is 30 days, not 14.

    Btw aren't you German? You should know about 14 day cancellation law, its not new thing.

    true that, that's why I wrote for a BF deal we are past it (14 days) already ;-)

    and the 30 days from satisfaction, which might have been just in time don't fit for the vps.

    btw: please note that this 14 day cancellation is no free ticket everywhere, but can be limited by certain conditions (see their 'special note' in the link you provided)
    I don't remember what netcup does during the order process, but some provider use exactly this to have you click a box and agree early on a expiration of that revocation thing ;-)
    tl;dr; Fernabsatzgesetz might hurt your eyes when reading and butt when learning it does not always do, what you expect from it.

  • @Falzo said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @Falzo said:
    also their satisfaction guarantue only applies to their RS line, not the VPS.

    In Germany you have 14day contract cancellation law, netcup is German company so ofc it also applies to VPS line.

    https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/widerrufsbelehrung.html
    "You may revoke your contractual declaration in text form (e.g. letter, e-mail) within 14 days without stating reasons."

    Satisfaction guarantee for RS is netcup thing and is 30 days, not 14.

    Btw aren't you German? You should know about 14 day cancellation law, its not new thing.

    true that, that's why I wrote for a BF deal we are past it (14 days) already ;-)

    and the 30 days from satisfaction, which might have been just in time don't fit for the vps.

    btw: please note that this 14 day cancellation is no free ticket everywhere, but can be limited by certain conditions (see their 'special note' in the link you provided)
    I don't remember what netcup does during the order process, but some provider use exactly this to have you click a box and agree early on a expiration of that revocation thing ;-)
    tl;dr; Fernabsatzgesetz might hurt your eyes when reading and butt when learning it does not always do, what you expect from it.

    netcup doesn't use fineprint on their offers, you can always cancel within 14 days.
    Same with Hetzner.
    I don't know when he got it, I just share info :)

    Be aware that if you overuse this law then company may ban your account and your details. For example Nekki is banned from Hetzner for that reason - cancelling dedis within 14 days multiple times. For that reason don't use that law as "free VPS/dedi" for 14 days, use it to cancel bad service and save your money.

    They never will welcome you back after ban.

  • Update

    I exchanged a couple of emails with netcup support, at first they were reluctant but upon insisting they moved my VM to a different node. I'm satisfied with the results.

    Here are the benchmark results from new node:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2022-12-04                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu 29 Dec 2022 08:46:22 AM EST
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 9 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes
    Processor  : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
    CPU cores  : 10 @ 1996.249 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 11.7 GiB
    Swap       : 975.0 MiB
    Disk       : 470.4 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel     : 5.10.0-20-amd64
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 43.05 MB/s   (10.7k) | 533.17 MB/s   (8.3k)
    Write      | 43.13 MB/s   (10.7k) | 535.98 MB/s   (8.3k)
    Total      | 86.18 MB/s   (21.5k) | 1.06 GB/s    (16.7k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.52 GB/s     (2.9k) | 1.43 GB/s     (1.4k)
    Write      | 1.60 GB/s     (3.1k) | 1.53 GB/s     (1.4k)
    Total      | 3.13 GB/s     (6.1k) | 2.97 GB/s     (2.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed                                                                                                                                                                   | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----                                                                                                                                                                         | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 958 Mbits/sec   | 914 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 25.0 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 920 Mbits/sec   | 900 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 28.1 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 959 Mbits/sec   | 946 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 20.6 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 341 Mbits/sec   | 274 Mbits/sec                                                                                                                                                                | 188 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 452 Mbits/sec   | 899 Mbits/sec   | 97.1 ms
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 406 Mbits/sec   | 503 Mbits/sec   | 133 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 400 Mbits/sec   | 684 Mbits/sec   | 162 ms
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 784
    Multi Core      | 4717
    YABS completed in 6 min 58 sec
    
  • ArkasArkas Moderator

    The new benchmarks seem quiet improved on the CPU GB, not so much on I/O

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