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Speaking about browsers... Who's using Arc?

I opened a thread about Firefox days ago and already ditched it :D It's just too slow compared to Chrome. Then today I got an invite for Arc and am testing it now. It's awesome! I can hide the sidebar (there are no toolbars) and see the websites in full screen all the time. Then to switch between tabs, bookmarks or search or open any URL I can press CMD-T to open the command palette. It's super fast and very handy. I really like to see full screen websites by default.

Anyone else using it?

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  • Been using it since it first came out, just wish it wasn't only on macos.

  • @fluffernutter said:
    Been using it since it first came out, just wish it wasn't only on macos.

    Oh I hadn't realized it is macos only

  • Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

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  • @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    Regardless of the scores, to me Chromium browsers are noticeably snappier. What can I say

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  • @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    Perceived speed of the browser isn't all about the rendering engine alone. Ever since it came out, Chrome just seemed way faster than its competitors.

    Thanked by 1raindog308
  • Yeah but chrome still flashbangs you every time you open it, even if you have the dark theme enabled

  • http://www.speed-battle.com
    Site has no SSL, not sure if intentional.

    just tried chrome, brave and firefox on this site. Chrome and Brave were neck and neck, and firefox has a good lead for me.

    424.38 for Chrome
    432.58 for brave
    525.97 for Firefox

    all results lower then the given stats here, but ive got a lot of background stuff going on at the same time. Based on the published stats, the difference is minimal and seems to vary a lot depending on the version of chrome or FF.
    http://www.speed-battle.com/statistics_e.php

    IMHO, if anything Firefox seems a tiny bit quicker in real world use, but honestly it's imperceptible for me. I use both browsers all the time, maybe it's got something to do with the underlying OS as to how the different browsers perform. Im using a Debian based OS

    Anyway would love to try Arc, but until it makes it to linux ill just have to take the OP's word for it

  • @nocloud said:

    http://www.speed-battle.com
    Site has no SSL, not sure if intentional.

    just tried chrome, brave and firefox on this site. Chrome and Brave were neck and neck, and firefox has a good lead for me.

    424.38 for Chrome
    432.58 for brave
    525.97 for Firefox

    all results lower then the given stats here, but ive got a lot of background stuff going on at the same time. Based on the published stats, the difference is minimal and seems to vary a lot depending on the version of chrome or FF.
    http://www.speed-battle.com/statistics_e.php

    IMHO, if anything Firefox seems a tiny bit quicker in real world use, but honestly it's imperceptible for me. I use both browsers all the time, maybe it's got something to do with the underlying OS as to how the different browsers perform. Im using a Debian based OS

    Anyway would love to try Arc, but until it makes it to linux ill just have to take the OP's word for it

    Have you tested all browsers with NO extensions enabled?

  • Just tried that test, it seems pretty useless to me. It takes literally one second to run? What can it possibly test in that short time?

  • It's just too slow compared to Chrome.

    Please elaborate. I don’t see any slowness in Windows, Mac, Linux, windows on VMware/ Parallels, and so on.

  • @vitobotta said:

    @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    Regardless of the scores, to me Chromium browsers are noticeably snappier. What can I say

    its actually "snappier", not significantly faster. Been using FF for quite some years

  • I use firefox, cause fuck google.

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  • @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    In my experience FF stalls occasionally, while Chrome never stalls. Even the latest version of FF stalls sometimes. I have no idea why, but it happens. It's really experience breaking imo.

  • @drizbo said:
    I use firefox, cause fuck google.


    And de-googled chromium sucks

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  • how about Opera?

  • idohostingidohosting Member
    edited December 2022

    How's Edge these days? it was really good at the start but unsure how much bloat they've added these days

  • @iqbal said:
    how about Opera?

    since it was sold it’s crap. I’m using FF since years. An alternative could be Vivaldi

  • ArkasArkas Moderator

    I had never heard of Arc before. I'll give it a try.

  • nocloudnocloud Member
    edited December 2022

    only have extensions in FF, but not sure I can disable it as it's gnome extentions > @Kousaka said:

    @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    In my experience FF stalls occasionally, while Chrome never stalls. Even the latest version of FF stalls sometimes. I have no idea why, but it happens. It's really experience breaking imo.
    @nezam05 said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    Regardless of the scores, to me Chromium browsers are noticeably snappier. What can I say

    its actually "snappier", not significantly faster. Been using FF for quite some years

    Don't you mean "Aw Snap"pier?

    edit: for chrome i mean...

  • @Kousaka said:

    @nocloud said:
    Firefox scores 515 and chrome 528 in HTML5 test. if you can notice 2.5% difference, good for you. I can't tell any difference in speed at all .
    https://html5test.com/

    In my experience FF stalls occasionally, while Chrome never stalls. Even the latest version of FF stalls sometimes. I have no idea why, but it happens. It's really experience breaking imo.

    hmmm not sure why, it's strange because chrome uses more resources. I quite often browse with a massive amount of tabs. Chrome frequently craps out and FF keeps chugging away.

    are these bad experiences are based on old versions of firefox, and you just haven't used both for a long time.

    Like i said i use both a lot, at the same time, speed I can't tell a difference, and stability FF stomps chrome, by an order of magnitude. I don't use any addon on for chrome. I only use it to translate foreign websites. As i live in country that doesn't speak my native language, I use it a lot.

  • @iqbal said:
    how about Opera?

    Bad, only reason I used it was Opera built in vpn— I can open reddit and hentai there. Since I got myself a wireguard setup, Opera has no place anymore in my workspace.

    I wonder who uses that for daily driver, that thing full of ads. I'm not joking.

  • Does Arc support Fido2/Webauthn?

  • @bamboo4409 said:
    Does Arc support Fido2/Webauthn?

    It's a Chromium browser so it should support what Chrome etc support

  • I'm not. I don't like to pay with my email address. And especially not when there is no privacy policy or other information about the terms.

  • @Liso said:
    Bad, only reason I used it was Opera built in vpn— I can open reddit and hentai there. Since I got myself a wireguard setup, Opera has no place anymore in my workspace.

    I wonder who uses that for daily driver, that thing full of ads. I'm not joking.

    Just use https://github.com/bebasid/bebasid then forget about opera :D

  • @Liso said: I wonder who uses that for daily driver, that thing full of ads. I'm not joking.

    I am trying to figure out about what ads you're talking about. I use Opera on my desktop alongside FF on a daily basis and I don't see any browser related ads.
    I don't even use uBlock Origin anymore, as included Opera Ad Blocker do it's job well.

    btw. it's not that hard:
    Opera Ad Blocker

    Allow Acceptable Ads ON/OFF
    Acceptable Ads allows ad formats that are nonintrusive and comply with a strict ad criteria. They help generate revenue for content creators and do not interfere with the content you are viewing. This feature is turned on by default, but you can deactivate it at any time.

  • @Mumbly said:

    @Liso said: I wonder who uses that for daily driver, that thing full of ads. I'm not joking.

    I am trying to figure out about what ads you're talking about. I use Opera on my desktop alongside FF on a daily basis and I don't see any browser related ads.
    I don't even use uBlock Origin anymore, as included Opera Ad Blocker do it's job well.

    btw. it's not that hard:
    Opera Ad Blocker

    Allow Acceptable Ads ON/OFF
    Acceptable Ads allows ad formats that are nonintrusive and comply with a strict ad criteria. They help generate revenue for content creators and do not interfere with the content you are viewing. This feature is turned on by default, but you can deactivate it at any time.

    Oops I meant opera browser for Android. By ads, the opera application itself show ads, yeah no ads with opera desktop but the android apps still enforce ads.

    @suyadi92 said:

    @Liso said:
    Bad, only reason I used it was Opera built in vpn— I can open reddit and hentai there. Since I got myself a wireguard setup, Opera has no place anymore in my workspace.

    I wonder who uses that for daily driver, that thing full of ads. I'm not joking.

    Just use https://github.com/bebasid/bebasid then forget about opera :D

    No need, I used wireguard now.

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  • emgemg Veteran

    I submitted a request in December when this thread first appeared. I cannot determine the exact date. Today (12 January 2023) I received an email notice to download a copy.

    The link in the email is in the form: https: // company.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=[redacted]&id=[redacted]&e=[redacted]

    The resulting download filename is "Arc-latest.dmg" - no date code or version number. The hashes for the .dmg file I downloaded are:
    MD5: 93105e77ee6f3b95475c1e6f4f8acca2
    SHA 256: e57cdcd7e58d404aa88fce78a151259799af58b1cad3fd32e7655e8433758a59

    I ran both the .dmg and the .zip version of the .app through the VirusTotal website. No malware was found.

    After all that, I learned that macOS 11 or later is required. I am still running an older version of macOS, but expect to be upgrading in a few weeks. In the meantime, I will give it a try in a macOS 12 virtual machine tomorrow.

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