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cPanel it s a luxury panel now
I wonder sometimes, who is willing to pay so much money to use cPanel, because it is very expensive to use
Regards,
Calin
Another price increase. People who still use it need to be mentally strong.
Both have the same owner, Oakley Capital.
I suppose all I can do anymore is lol at this company.
Slowly boiling the frog.
I have long been curious about the size of the market and the actual complexity of their tools. What would it take for a competitor to displace them?
Personally I prefer DirectAdmin, but cPanel is still the main control panel for most people, I think they're slowly killing it, up'ing the prices, forcing people to use a bland theme. ugh!
I'm pleased to feel great using DA. I don't miss cPanel at all.
@DA_Mark @smtalk do a great, terrific job.
I have used Plesk, cPanel, and DirectAdmin all from a shared hosting customer point of view. Keep that in mind when you read the rest of this comment. I am an end user, not a provider.
I liked Plesk the best, mostly because it let me create separate accounts for my children that gave them access to their own stuff (domains, websites, email addresses) without having access to the primary domains and email addresses for the family. (In cPanel, any account can do anything with any domain, website, email address.)
I liked cPanel until they broke their user interface recently. I intensely dislike the large solid red bar that takes up 1/3 of the left side of the web page and does nothing. Other user interface changes make it broken and buggy in one browser, and a pain to use in others. The user interface changes were bad. If I had been the responsible manager at cPanel, I would have fired their UI designer, and would be concerned about my own job security as well.
What I like about cPanel is that it lets me backup and restore my email accounts and forwarders. I have few actual email accounts, but over 1,000 forwarders. Migrating from one cPanel service to another is easy, but migrating to something else could be a challenge.
My experience with DirectAdmin is MXroute, which is an email-only provider. MXroute switched from cPanel to DirectAdmin a while ago, and DirectAdmin does not offer a way for end users to backup or restore their email accounts and forwarders. If that existed, I would have dumped the cPanel hosting provider (which I use only for email) and moved everything to my MXroute account. The solution is to write my own backup and restore routines using the DirectAdmin API. Well, I'm old and a little rusty, and don't feel like learning a new programming language and API just to accomplish this one task. It looks like that is what will have to happen, eventually, if I want to save money and dump the cPanel provider to migrate everything to MXroute. Sucks.
The real issue with backup/restore in DirectAdmin is that providers have such backup and restore capabilities, but those features do not trickle down to give end users a backup and restore capability for their own DirectAdmin accounts. Not that I have found, anyway.
”We use SPanel and DirectAdmin, which have been the industry standards for web hosting for over a decade”
Is that really true?
Actually, that ability is there in DirectAdmin. It is able to be disabled by the admin at will. The option appears in the Advanced Features menu.
I suspect that MXroute disables it by default as they do not offer any access to the file system or SSH for end users as they are not providing web hosting.
It is also worth noting that MXroute reseller services do offer reseller level access to backups. If you're paying over $10 a month to keep that cPanel service, it may be time to move.
@emg
Better to PM or ticket about website issues to avoid detailing thread about cPanel price increases. I fixed it.
Anyone who still uses it is a plain retard. They have priced themselves out of normal markets too with this increase, if not with the previous one.
Meanwhile the enterprise customers don't even shit that way, so I'm wondering who their audiences are now that even normal providers are looking to ditch it. The price increase is not so bad for the high end hosts, what is bad is the frequency it happens and how unpredictable the hikes will be. Any provider that still uses it, will at least consider alternatives now, since changing platforms will take time and nobody wants to be at mercy of another as this stuff will decide pricing and competition.
You're welcome.
Or just not too concerned with a few bucks?
I work in SEO and A LOT of my clients are solve entrepreneurs with an e-commerce. It's probably my most common type of client.
I can tell you right now I'd bet NONE of them even know what they're paying for hosting, all they know it's that it's basically nothing compared to other spendings related to their website (people & ads).
Just for historical purposes and comparison, here's cPanel new partner pricing from Sept. 2021:
And their "announcement" about annual price increase:
IMO, the best control panel was H-Sphere from PSoft (Positive Software). But it is long gone, unfortunately.
cPanel also has very good log viewer - that's the feature I didn't see in any other panel.
Also DirectAdmin seems to store logs in a rather weird way - a .gz archive for each day, not for month.
Like I said, its not the pricing but the rate they are increasing it.
Since the vast majority have no knowledge of what they pay (I’d guess), I’m sure they do not have any knowledge of the rate cPanel is highering prices as well.
Especially since huge clients to cPanel (hosts where normal, non LET-people, are clients) have a totally different pricing structure (I’d bet).
DirectAdmin is mostly used in the past decade because of lifetime license.
To be fair, without fanboyzm, I see these cPanel strong sides:
Overall, if market allows them to pull such stunts with outrages price increase - their clientele needs them vs others. Small players (sub 100 000 accounts) cry a lot, but they are not cPanel clients and this is good. Segmentation.
I forgot about this annual suffering with panel price increases from WebPros after I switched to ispmanager. It is a great functional hosting panel with versions for all occasions for a reasonable price.
what are they actually offering in that pricing?
Just check their official site ispmanager dot com
You can find all information there.
Gotta love it