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Hetzner just kicked off all @solana nodes hosted on their infrastructure π
I know solana is sh*te, but hetzner becoming new **** in banning everything and everyone
π nice plan to save the bandwidth and electricity π 2023 - hetzner kicked off all who used apache/nginx π
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethstaker/comments/ykge6k/hetzner_just_kicked_off_all_solana_nodes_hosted/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/comments/ykeo1w/all_solana_nodes_booted_off_hetzner_network/
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It was never allowed on Hetz, they just started enforcing it. We've taken on about 100ish nodes in the last couple of days from Hetzner.
Speaking of, does anyone have a link to see Solana validators by AS#?
like this one ? https://www.hetzner.com/legal/dedicated-server/
Why would hetzner cancel them and how even hetzner new what client host on their servers ?
Hetzner said directly, months ago, that anything cryptocurrency is not allowed on their servers. If thousands of nodes were being run on Hetzner those operators are quite stupid.
Solana is very easy to detect on the network.....and causes immense load on the hardware.
Basic traffic analysis?
so why to sell servers then? π whats the point of paying for it?
and if they use vpn ? they wont know sh*t
Hetzner is just helping them with decentralization.
Just because hetzner is cheaper and stable, especially when you are an individual. You won't even find a reputable provider who can offer the same thing for twice the price. Not only solana many nodes of other chains are also on hetzner. Actually solana has a Server Program where partner offer nodes for about $600-800. If you use AWS that will be $3000-4000, while hetzner 5950X is only $100π
LOL, this is actually true, too low server prices lead to centralization.
What a surprise, cryptobros are too stupid to read the TOS.
No, crypto bros read TOS, test small-scale abuse first, and then abuse services as long as it goes.
The load Solana causes creates unusual spikes in heat and power usage. In addition, reduces hardware life. If you're willing to pay for it, I'm willing to sell it.
You can try, we've caught many.
From my experience, they all know what they're doing and will keep doing it while they think they're under the radar.
Cost of electricity. Solana validators consume a lot and Hetzner doesnβt have a way to meter individual servers and pass these costs to the customer.
European energy crisis caused by Russia.
Fixed that for you. European Union has it's own electricity.
Why does Hetzner care about crypto "Abusing" their servers but they allow people to use servers for DDoS (Don't even suggest reporting, I've probably made 50 reports over the years and the only time tickets get closed is when the person abusing stops paying their bills and they alert me that the IP belongs to someone else now [Example: https://i.ibb.co/1rPgTKF/image.png ])
There was one instance when a single Hetzner IP consistently sent thousands of requests a second for 3 days against one of my websites
Their policies are so weird. I will never use them. (Unless I want to ever DDoS people, because its alright there)
Mainly because of the cost of electricity. And they have very strict policies about DoS, but they probably only pay attention to reputable reporters (any random can just send to abuse@ and flood them with rubbish.)
No we don't. Continental Europe is very poor in terms of the value of available natural resources per capita. In fact, Ukraine and Russia are the richest.
Chancellor Merkel wanted nuclear power for Germany, and I agree with that, but this was politically unpopular (along with coal which would pollute the entire continent) so the best solution is natural gas. It's a shame Germany doesn't have much of that, but that is not any leader's fault.
wat, wasn't stacking supposed to use less?
It uses less. From what I have heard it is mostly to do with bureaucracy. 70% of crypto use case is illicit, so it affects the 30% legit ones. Almost all german providers have put a blanket ban on any blockchain related project. They even say you can't have software that connects to any blockchain related API. Hard to enforce the last use case, but it just shows the extent of the ban...
The energy crisis has nothing to do with Russia. The main reason is the stupid energy policy of the EU bureaucracy, as well as the too rapid transition to "green" resources only. But, of course, to hide their own stupid mistakes, it would be good to say that Russia is responsible for the energy crisis.
Solana needs that much processing power?
What are the typical specs required for it?
We are PRO crypto so might tailor something towards that or add customizeable offer which fits that category.
We've been accepting crypto payments for more than a decade now, many of our customers have ran Chia for example and for one customer we built proof of concept for Filecoin when it was new fangled thing etc etc.
Correct. The Green Movement idiocity has caused this issue. Just past few years in Finland a lot of coal plants has been literally blown up (well the chimneys at the very least) AND essentially banned peat energy which was huge for Finland. Along with limits on national woodchips etc. resulting in woodchips being imported all the way from Brazil ! -- for a country of like 80% forest, with world's best maintained forests!
It precisely is leader's fault, even by your own description. Besides, what i've been hearing it was Merkel who wanted to rid nuclear power.
Regardless, Germany has plummeted the whole Europe in trouble with their russian energy dependance.
They were warned again and again and again, but German leaders just laughed that don't be crazy, Putin is a good guy and Russia is not dangerous.
That's just not correct, that's propaganda.
Never let a good crisis goto waste, and there's no better propaganda than to blame it all on Russia! Thanks for the crisis.
Well who was then who made Europe dependant on Russian energy resources so heavily and pushed the green agenda way too hard and fast, and destroyed old plants and known useable efficient environment friendly energy out? Was that Russia's fault? No.
Most people still do not realize that the old mainstream media has become full propaganda machines for the highest bidder and they sell you FEAR to get those juicy advertising euros while spewing propaganda through fear.
Fear has always been excellent tool to manipulate people.
You want real news? It's not on Hatestream media these days.
None of them value anymore unbiased, true journalism because FEAR sells.
Whats the problem for hetzner if someone is running solana on their dedicated?
imagine killing a server in 3 months vs the same server working for 3-4 years.
maybe because the hardware would end up failling faster?
Premature hardware failure, data center hotspots, increased support load.
Mmmm... Auction marketplace getting juicy incoming