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https://mzunguhosting.ml/
quite subjecive.
Hybula's network is great yes, buuuuut... what about to someone in South Sudan or Indonesia? not gonna be great.
what makes it great in your eyes.. ie low latency to X, pricing, etc etc.
@LiliLabs
I understand that some remote locations might not be the best places to judge network. I travel quite frequently and for my Hybula is the only that consistently saturates whatever line I'm using. So perhaps my question should be which provider has above average peering/network for most folks?
Thats Hosthatch NL. Nice for torrenting with big RAM cache, even Nvme can't keep up
Where are you generally located/what places do you generally travel to?
nforce
Wouldn't agree that Hybula(novoserve) has "best" network
wanted to say the same.. HostHatch NL is crazy.
hosthatch yabs please for nl ryzen
HH Stockholm storage server,
Hosthatch!
My favorite provider. Love the damn good machine I have with you.
It has been out of stock for a long time. When will the new KVM plans go into stock?
nforce is good for torrent racing because extreme many "topsites" are hosted at nforce. every big torrentracker has 1337 sc3n3 leechaxx. some sceners who are even on rated (non colo, private lines, c-class ip..) topsites or where owner of these topsites where used to run torrent or warez sites for big cash. and when your source (or the traffic bnc) is on nforce, your seedbots for your torrent tracker will also.
sceneaccess for example was directly affilated with nforce. these guys also pimped there bot configs, that nforce peers where better performing, cause they also sold seedboxes which where colo'd at nforce (seedvps.com)
worldstream has an nice network too. they have orange and dtag as upstream and also ix's which are not only in nl.
1GB VPS Plan for 4.50€/m with coupon LET10
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that probably has less to do with hosthatch and more to do with the data center. hosthatch nl is equinix am5 so you would probably get similar throughput for any provider using that data center.
https://blyatconnect.ru/
Right it seems like it's going to be location-specific more than provider-specific.
I have a question about this - why is network so important? This might sound dumb but are we looking at the numbers or are we looking at the numbers as it relates to streaming or something like that? The reason I ask is because I most of the time do not car about the network as long as it connects. Have not, thankfully come across any provider with networks so horrible I needed to complain about. Sorry for derailing, this is not a criticism, just curious what you guys are looking for or doing where it is extremely vital. I can see dB global clustering being highly dependent on network as well, maybe gaming?
Yeah, gaming you want low ping count. For storage boxes you want to be able to max out bandwidth. For other uses it's likely just wanting things that tiny bit snappier, with a couple of exceptions I'm sure.
LiteServer NL!
good or bad network is a symptom like a fat person doesn't clean the house otherwise he wouldn't be fat in the first place. a good network is a symptom of:
Those two things implies:
Have you heard of price increases from Hybula or WorldStream? If you look at their prices, they probably have enough profit margins to eat the increased energy costs if they wanted to, unlike Hetzner or OVH. This is also reflected in their network quality.
This trickles down to budget VM resellers. Providers who use OVH servers will end up increasing their prices as well.
@Astro if we are talking about peering, I think OVH is doing fine for most parts of the world and Nforce is really great.
Euh... you might want to check your very logical well founded theories. Does not hold... Heard from both of them. And both are increasing prices later in 2023. Don't worry sooner or later price increase will happen. Just don't speculate too much and predict their entire business model just from the lack of "hey here is a 10% price hike". It just a matter of energy contracts and renewal dates.
tl;dr: just because you haven't heard about something, it does not mean it did not/ won't happen.
You can't say Hetzner are not invested enough or are noobs who started doing this last summer. Yet their network is a piece of shit to many parts of the world.
Are there any VPS providers on nforce?
Would be eager to know as well. They offer VPS themselves but it's not really low-end pricing: https://www.nforce.com/Cloud-Hosting/2
Not worth it anymore, their network is shit now. Got bought and ruined.
I never said they wouldn't, but that given their profit margins they don't have as much pressure as those with "lowend" prices like Hetzner.
I'm not sure what your point is. Hetzner IS a piece of shit to my part of the world in the US East Coast, while WorldStream is in a class of its own. In fact my connection to WorldStream over the Atlantic is faster and stabler than several "domestic" providers on the West Coast. What does that tell you? That tells me WorldStream knows what they're doing.
My point is, you can't really tell "they invest" / "know their shit" based on that only imho.
It is just that maybe they invest differently. Maybe Hetzner Spends X per month on network. And WS spends that same amount X. It just that Hetzner allocated that differently, for example to offer more traffic instead of less but optimized traffic. I don't have some internal numbers or some data to confirm, we are just both saying what we think, really without any real knowledge of the truth. The way you stated things made it sound like a fact...
Simply put, connectivity to a provider like Hetzner does not mean the provider does not invest in network, or are a bunch of noobs. Cuz we both know Hetzner ain't any of these. I think it just means they don't care about your area/part of the world.
Or maybe they just happened to have longer contracts with the old rate, that's all. Again, Why do you say it as a fact, we don't know their profit margins? Do you happen to have an idea of their real cost? (ex employee, etc?)