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Epyc Processors

LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

Been thinking of my next server build. What do you guys think of the AMD EPYC (2nd Gen) 7302P Hexadeca-core (16 Core) 3 GHz Processor?

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  • TrendyJackTrendyJack Member
    edited September 2022

    I think that it could be interesting to see something with an EPYC 3rd gen on lowend market rather than another product with that 2nd Gen EPYC, there are just few provider that offers latest EPYC cpu.

  • If it's competing in the price range of the old xeons that are so popular in the low end, it's a great idea

  • If it's competing in the price range of the old xeons that are so popular in the low end, it's a great idea

  • If it's competing in the price range of the old xeons that are so popular in the low end, it's a great idea

  • I would recommend to go with Epyc Milan instead of ROME

    They are more powerful, advanced and more core and their price is not that much

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  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Patron Provider

    I guess that CPU gets picked because low price and higher base clock.

    I wonder what benchmarks show 7302P vs 7551P

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Boring but seems to sell well. Be sure to pair it up with fast memory though.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @PulsedMedia said:
    I guess that CPU gets picked because low price and higher base clock.

    I wonder what benchmarks show 7302P vs 7551P

    I think 7302P wins. But if I get the 32 core version (still less money) instead of the 16 then the 7551P may win for the multicore test.

    https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=7551P
    https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=7302P

  • that will be Epic!

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  • EPYC will be a massive upgrade.

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    We have a few of those, no complaints.

  • @PulsedMedia said:
    I guess that CPU gets picked because low price and higher base clock.

    I wonder what benchmarks show 7302P vs 7551P

    7xx1 is not good, it chokes in multithreaded apps
    Single core is ok and benchmark like GB5 can show good points (because crypto perf on it is very good), but when you are using all cores with VMs it doesn't scale well.

    See for example

    Latencies are also 2x worse than on Intel.

    Get cheap E5 26xx V4 or jump to Zen2 based EPYCs 7xx2.
    I don't know what prices you are getting but these chips are on old Intel level, not even Skylake. Its competitive with old Broadwell so Xeon V4, and these Xeons should be a lot cheaper.

    Ryzen 5950X is another great route (even better than EPYC 7xx2) if 128GB ram is enough.

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  • +1 on getting AMD EPYC 3rd gen Milan for better performance and less/no impact from RetBleed speculative execution attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retbleed

  • HxxxHxxx Member
    edited September 2022

    Before anyone else commit the sin of saying it. Why not...
    Since you are posting in the low end world. . .
    Why don't you use Ryzen?

    :D

    Edit: Somebody else said it.

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited September 2022

    7302P is three years old now. You may as well just get the latest processors - they shouldn't be that much more expensive.

    At this point, I wonder if it's worth waiting for Zen 4, which is launching on the consumer side (Ryzen) later this month. AMD said that Zen4 (Ryzen 7000) will have 13% IPC uplift, and a 29% improvement in single-thread performance compared to Zen3 (Ryzen 5000)

    Zen 4 uses a new socket (AM5) so building a new Zen 2 or Zen 3 system today will limit your future upgradeability and thus the longevity of your server.

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  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @vyas11 said:
    that will be Epic!

    :D

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  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @Hxxx said:
    Before anyone else commit the sin of saying it. Why not...
    Since you are posting in the low end world. . .
    Why don't you use Ryzen?

    :D

    Edit: Somebody else said it.

    I have not seen the ability to do dual processors with Ryzen.

  • @LittleCreek said:

    @Hxxx said:
    Before anyone else commit the sin of saying it. Why not...
    Since you are posting in the low end world. . .
    Why don't you use Ryzen?

    :D

    Edit: Somebody else said it.

    I have not seen the ability to do dual processors with Ryzen.

    Aren't dual socket motherboards falling out of use these days? I don't see them much any more.

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  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @eva2000 said:
    +1 on getting AMD EPYC 3rd gen Milan for better performance and less/no impact from RetBleed speculative execution attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retbleed

    How about this one AMD EPYC 7313P Milan 3.0 GHz

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    If EPYC 7313P is satisfactory then what I want is dual processors with 512 GB of memory, maybe more if there is still enough processing room.

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    @LittleCreek said:
    If EPYC 7313P is satisfactory then what I want is dual processors with 512 GB of memory, maybe more if there is still enough processing room.

    P indicates single processor.

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  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @jackb said:

    @LittleCreek said:
    If EPYC 7313P is satisfactory then what I want is dual processors with 512 GB of memory, maybe more if there is still enough processing room.

    P indicates single processor.

    Yes I would buy 2 of them and put onto a single board. Dual processor system.

  • @LittleCreek said: How about this one AMD EPYC 7313P Milan 3.0 GHz

    AMD EPYC 7xx3 are 3rd gen Milan so yes 7313P is Milan based :)

  • @LittleCreek said:

    @jackb said:

    @LittleCreek said:
    If EPYC 7313P is satisfactory then what I want is dual processors with 512 GB of memory, maybe more if there is still enough processing room.

    P indicates single processor.

    Yes I would buy 2 of them and put onto a single board. Dual processor system.

    You'd need the 7313 then. The P designates that the CPU is locked to single socket only.

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  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @LiliLabs said:
    You'd need the 7313 then. The P designates that the CPU is locked to single socket only.

    Thank you. That is valuable information.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    Another question is would people be willing to pay a little more for a much better processor? Maybe $.50 or $1.00 more?

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  • cybertechcybertech Member
    edited September 2022

    @LittleCreek said:
    Another question is would people be willing to pay a little more for a much better processor? Maybe $.50 more?

    question is why not? 4vCPU of Zen 3? take my money

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  • That would be a great deal. I can't wait to get one.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @nick_ said:
    That would be a great deal. I can't wait to get one.

    It's going to be a little while. I am still in the planning stages. Probably a couple of months.

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  • @LittleCreek said:

    @nick_ said:
    That would be a great deal. I can't wait to get one.

    It's going to be a little while. I am still in the planning stages. Probably a couple of months.

    Pre orders ?

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