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Who is the cheapest dedicated server provider?

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  • letloverletlover Member

    One provider/ Scaleway's ip rep is really bad. I use its dedi as vpn and is blocked by webhostingtalk.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited June 2022

    @letlover said:

    @mosquitoguy said:

    @letlover said:
    Other than cpu stealing, ram stealing, is there network stealing? is there hdd/ssd stealing? Just curious.

    network stealing is a given. that's just the nature of vps. you're sharing bandwidth with the other vps and no one has gets a dedicated bandwidth.

    same with hdd/ssd if the disk is virtual. you can be promised 2TB but maybe there's only 500GB disk free on the host. You won't know it until you've filled up the hd.

    Just did some reading. Disk I/O is shared also. There is a disk speed stealing too!

    As a example
    Contabo VPS NVMe has 5.8K IOPS limit, but drives that they are using are capable of... 1 KK! So they give you freakin 0.58% of whats possible.

    Racknerd has 16.7K limit on SSD capable of 50k-100k (IDK what exact disk they use) so it's not like all providers limit IOPS that hard.

    Everything is shared on VPSes, but some take it to extreme and some give you good enough limits.

    @letlover said:
    One provider/ Scaleway's ip rep is really bad. I use its dedi as vpn and is blocked by webhostingtalk.

    Wait until you see ColoCrossing IP reputation xD you cant even do one Google Search ever. Every single search you need to pass many steps of ReCaptcha...

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  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited June 2022

    What is for you guys cheap dedicated server? For me <30-45€ I will some of them, don't expect prices crazy like 5.99€ and others..

    https://www.firstheberg.com/en/dedicated-server (before quote me, please drop until the end and look at the last dedicated servers for 12€, France location also)
    https://pulseheberg.com/baremetal/standard (France)
    https://alexhost.com/dedicated-servers/ (Republic of Moldova)
    https://www.worldstream.com/en/dedicated-servers (netherlands)
    https://www.nocix.net/dedicated/
    https://www.dedistart.com/
    https://hostkey.com/dedicated-servers/cheap/ (out of stock, check sales server.. out of stock probably?)
    https://www.clients.weservit.nl/index.php/store/dedicated-servers-outlet (Netherlands)

    In those providers you will find dedicated servers below <50€ some with good promotions, others offshore etc. In that list you will find providers with dedicated servers below <30€

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @sandoz said:
    What is for you guys cheap dedicated server? For me <30-45€ I will some of them, don't expect prices crazy like 5.99€ and others..

    https://www.firstheberg.com/en/dedicated-server

    uh, fuck.
    They sold these for 4.99€ with 2x 500GB Raid 1.

    I think they even delivered them with bad sectors and if you asked for a replacement, the drive had more than before.

  • letloverletlover Member

    @Neoon said:

    @sandoz said:
    What is for you guys cheap dedicated server? For me <30-45€ I will some of them, don't expect prices crazy like 5.99€ and others..

    https://www.firstheberg.com/en/dedicated-server

    uh, fuck.
    They sold these for 4.99€ with 2x 500GB Raid 1.

    I think they even delivered them with bad sectors and if you asked for a replacement, the drive had more than before.

    Where is this 4.99€ with 2x 500GB Raid 1?
    I cannot find this on this firstheberg website.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited June 2022

    @Neoon said:

    @sandoz said:
    What is for you guys cheap dedicated server? For me <30-45€ I will some of them, don't expect prices crazy like 5.99€ and others..

    https://www.firstheberg.com/en/dedicated-server

    uh, fuck.
    They sold these for 4.99€ with 2x 500GB Raid 1.

    I think they even delivered them with bad sectors and if you asked for a replacement, the drive had more than before.

    I have used them, firstheberg vps is super super cheap, the dedicated server can be delivered in 1-3 days, check it. It may change. I used them in the past.

    They are out of stock very fast some weeks, other weeks have a lot of stock generally in day 1, 2 or 3 of first days of the month, people usually forget to pay or don't want more there is the day you catch more stock than usual.

    They aren't bad, but don't expect good support or fastest support due to prices. But I have contacted support they are very friendly and helpful.

    Is not too bad, in fact they are much greater than kimsufi or ovh in my opinion, perhaps it was changed or not.

    Firstheberg is legit.

    @letlover said:

    @Neoon said:

    @sandoz said:
    What is for you guys cheap dedicated server? For me <30-45€ I will some of them, don't expect prices crazy like 5.99€ and others..

    https://www.firstheberg.com/en/dedicated-server

    uh, fuck.
    They sold these for 4.99€ with 2x 500GB Raid 1.

    I think they even delivered them with bad sectors and if you asked for a replacement, the drive had more than before.

    Where is this 4.99€ with 2x 500GB Raid 1?
    I cannot find this on this firstheberg website.

    Probably out of stock, or he is seeing his storage plans, check also their vps super cheap.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    @letlover said:
    I really hope Kimsufi can provide a below $10 raid 1 dedi. I do not care about the cpu and ram. HDD can 500 gb. Just give me raid 1 and $9.99.

    $10.27 for some i3 with 4GB, 2x1TB (HW RAID) and gbps, if paid annually?

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  • ralfralf Member

    @ralf said:
    2TB disk which is almost 8 years old and probably taken more of a beating than the one in the KS-1 I'm going to dispose of. Funny that the e-mail from Kimsufi says that they "extensively tested" the drive, even though it has only ever had 3 short disk tests, done in the first couple of months of its life.

    Ooops, the testing time is stored as 16-bit, so they had actually run a short test on it (actually 3) before provisioning. And seemingly the drive had never been tested before then.

  • letloverletlover Member

    vps and vds still have their niche market <$5-10. there is no practical bmds in this price range yet. virmach is doing the right thing. in the next five years, with the standardization of amd epyc 64 core/128 thread cpus, quality $10/y vps and $50/y vds will be industry standards. bmds cannot compete in this price range.

  • letloverletlover Member

    curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script/master/yabs.sh | bash

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2022-06-11

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Wed Jun 15 02:34:16 UTC 2022

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 9 hours, 10 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800 @ 1.86GHz
    CPU cores : 4 @ 1866.667 MHz
    AES-NI : ❌ Disabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM : 3.8 GiB
    Swap : 512.0 MiB
    Disk : 1.8 TiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel : 5.10.0-14-amd64

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 615.00 KB/s (153) 8.99 MB/s (140)
    Write 645.00 KB/s (161) 9.50 MB/s (148)
    Total 1.26 MB/s (314) 18.49 MB/s (288)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 37.88 MB/s (73) 52.88 MB/s (51)
    Write 40.22 MB/s (78) 56.50 MB/s (55)
    Total 78.11 MB/s (151) 109.39 MB/s (106)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 94.1 Mbits/sec | 94.1 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 94.0 Mbits/sec | 94.1 Mbits/sec
    Hybula | The Netherlands (40G) | 94.0 Mbits/sec | 94.0 Mbits/sec
    Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 91.0 Mbits/sec | 84.9 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 91.9 Mbits/sec | 92.4 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 90.1 Mbits/sec | 90.7 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 89.1 Mbits/sec | 84.4 Mbits/sec

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 92.7 Mbits/sec | 92.8 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 92.7 Mbits/sec | busy
    Hybula | The Netherlands (40G) | 92.7 Mbits/sec | 92.7 Mbits/sec
    Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 89.8 Mbits/sec | 82.9 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 90.6 Mbits/sec | 91.1 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 88.8 Mbits/sec | 88.2 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 87.8 Mbits/sec | 88.1 Mbits/sec

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 112
    Multi Core | 310
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15473549

  • letloverletlover Member

    curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script/master/yabs.sh | bash

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2022-06-11

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Wed 15 Jun 2022 04:35:14 AM CEST

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 29 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes
    Processor : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C2338 @ 1.74GHz
    CPU cores : 2 @ 1750.068 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 3.9 GiB
    Swap : 1.0 GiB
    Disk : 914.9 GiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
    Kernel : 4.19.0-20-amd64

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 367.00 KB/s (91) 5.19 MB/s (81)
    Write 388.00 KB/s (97) 5.41 MB/s (84)
    Total 755.00 KB/s (188) 10.60 MB/s (165)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 21.92 MB/s (42) 29.99 MB/s (29)
    Write 23.58 MB/s (46) 32.81 MB/s (32)
    Total 45.50 MB/s (88) 62.80 MB/s (61)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 873 Mbits/sec | 267 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 728 Mbits/sec | 421 Mbits/sec
    Hybula | The Netherlands (40G) | 871 Mbits/sec | 677 Mbits/sec
    Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 884 Mbits/sec | 209 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 759 Mbits/sec | 151 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 672 Mbits/sec | 111 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 747 Mbits/sec | 161 Mbits/sec

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 19
    Multi Core | 35
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15474084

  • letloverletlover Member

    One Provider's little dedi is interesting in terms of the network speed. It can go 1 gbps outbound, very useful for seedbox.

  • ralfralf Member

    @letlover said:
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 91.9 Mbits/sec | 92.4 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 90.1 Mbits/sec | 90.7 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 89.1 Mbits/sec | 84.4 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 90.6 Mbits/sec | 91.1 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 88.8 Mbits/sec | 88.2 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 87.8 Mbits/sec | 88.1 Mbits/sec

    Looks like your speeds are as expected. I've opened a ticket, as my speeds are still terrible:

    new-gra1-ks1:~$ iperf3 -4 -c la.speedtest.clouvider.net -p 5200-5209 -P 8 -R |grep SUM|grep er
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  25.4 MBytes  21.3 Mbits/sec  101             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  22.1 MBytes  18.5 Mbits/sec                  receiver
new-gra1-ks1:~$ iperf3 -6 -c la.speedtest.clouvider.net -p 5200-5209 -P 8 -R |grep SUM|grep er
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  27.3 MBytes  22.9 Mbits/sec  105             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  22.8 MBytes  19.1 Mbits/sec                  receiver

old-gra1-ks1:~$ iperf3 -4 -c la.speedtest.clouvider.net -p 5200-5209 -P 8 -R |grep SUM|grep er
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   121 MBytes   101 Mbits/sec  1579             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   106 MBytes  89.2 Mbits/sec                  receiver
old-gra1-ks1:~$ iperf3 -6 -c la.speedtest.clouvider.net -p 5200-5209 -P 8 -R |grep SUM|grep er
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   118 MBytes  99.1 Mbits/sec  920             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   105 MBytes  88.3 Mbits/sec                  receiver
  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    People buying 10€ - 15€ dedicated servers and waiting huge quality. Different markets, different brains and ways of thinking...

    Common sense.

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  • letloverletlover Member

    @sandoz said:
    People buying 10€ - 15€ dedicated servers and waiting huge quality. Different markets, different brains and ways of thinking...

    Common sense.

    Good for seedbox p2p downloading client. different horses for different courses.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    @letlover said:

    @sandoz said:
    People buying 10€ - 15€ dedicated servers and waiting huge quality. Different markets, different brains and ways of thinking...

    Common sense.

    Good for seedbox p2p downloading client. different horses for different courses.

    Why people always go with kimsufi? You have firstheberg and pulseheberg with good storage vps or dedicated server lool (France Location)

    Take a look in cheap dedicated servers list
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3439251/#Comment_3439251

    If people doesn't go with kimsufi and try to use others maybe it change.

  • letloverletlover Member

    If I set up KVM on this server and open my own business

    https://www.worldstream.com/en/dedicated-servers/configure/57?chassis=26&amp;cpu=48&amp;memory=64&amp;location=1&amp;uplink=16&amp;ddosShield=3&amp;storage[0][storageDrive]=/api/storage_drives/16&amp;storage[0][amount]=2&amp;storage[0][raidConfiguration]=/api/raid_configurations/6&amp;hardwareRaid=true&amp;remoteFeature=1&amp;instantDelivery=true

    The cost for each vds of 1 vcpu(thread), 1 gb ram, 40 gb disk, 2 tg quota, will be $3. If I charge customers $6 each vds, I have 100% profit.
    However, 1 gbps shared, even upgrade to 10 gbps, shared by 50 customers, still is the major bottleneck. The real bandwidth is 200 mbps.
    Just want to pointing out that even vds from a totally reliable vendor still is not as good as a bmds.

    For network quality, even a tiny KS1 is no slouch when comparing to a mid to high end vds. A one provider $7 or $5 dedi depending on your deal has a dedicated 1 gbps outbound.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 2022

    @letlover said:
    For network quality, even a tiny KS1 is no slouch when comparing to a mid to high end vds. A one provider $7 or $5 dedi depending on your deal has a dedicated 1 gbps outbound.

    Shared yes, if you abuse it, that can happen quick, you be throttled to 100Mbit for ever.
    KS1 has 100Mbit unmetered, do the fuck you want.

    If you really think you get 1Gbit for yourself, for 7$, no way.

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  • letloverletlover Member

    With the tech advancement, cpu cores and rams and disks outpace network by a mile. If network catches up and 100 gbps is as cheap as 1 gbps in dc, vds can truly compete with bmds in every aspect. In reality, this is not the case, so vps and vds lags behind bmds by a mile in network quality.

  • letloverletlover Member

    In other words, vpn with online gaming is the true stress test for vds and vps.

  • letloverletlover Member

    For price estimation, if KS1 is priced as $6, $10/y vps and $50/y vds is very reasonable. The current vps/vds business has too much profit.

  • letloverletlover Member

    AWS started as the online elastic computing cluster, which is totally suitable for this scenario. The later VPS/VDS for web hosting is stretching.

  • HostMT3HostMT3 Member
    edited June 2022

    @sandoz said:
    What is for you guys cheap dedicated server? For me <30-45€ I will some of them, don't expect prices crazy like 5.99€ and others..

    https://www.firstheberg.com/en/dedicated-server (before quote me, please drop until the end and look at the last dedicated servers for 12€, France location also)
    https://pulseheberg.com/baremetal/standard (France)
    https://alexhost.com/dedicated-servers/ (Republic of Moldova)
    https://www.worldstream.com/en/dedicated-servers (netherlands)
    https://www.nocix.net/dedicated/
    https://www.dedistart.com/
    https://hostkey.com/dedicated-servers/cheap/ (out of stock, check sales server.. out of stock probably?)
    https://www.clients.weservit.nl/index.php/store/dedicated-servers-outlet (Netherlands)

    In those providers you will find dedicated servers below <50€ some with good promotions, others offshore etc. In that list you will find providers with dedicated servers below <30€

    Wooow damnn, firstheberg have nice nice prices, anyone here have used them? Seems a good location for lower pings through Europe, they have ddos protection free?

    @Shot2 said:

    @letlover said:
    I really hope Kimsufi can provide a below $10 raid 1 dedi. I do not care about the cpu and ram. HDD can 500 gb. Just give me raid 1 and $9.99.

    $10.27 for some i3 with 4GB, 2x1TB (HW RAID) and gbps, if paid annually?

    Is not easy to find that with 1Gbps guaranteed...

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    @HostMT3 said:

    $10.27 for some i3 with 4GB, 2x1TB (HW RAID) and gbps, if paid annually?

    Is not easy to find that with 1Gbps guaranteed...

    You won't.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited June 2022

    @Shot2 said:

    @HostMT3 said:

    $10.27 for some i3 with 4GB, 2x1TB (HW RAID) and gbps, if paid annually?

    Is not easy to find that with 1Gbps guaranteed...

    You won't.

    I believe that you may find That with Soyoustart (OVH) or Pulseheberg.. However firstheberg have nices prices for storage vps and dedicated servers... The problem is setup of dedicated server.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    @sandoz said:
    I believe that you may find That with Soyoustart (OVH) or Pulseheberg.. However firstheberg have nices prices for storage vps and dedicated servers... The problem is setup of dedicated server.

    1Gbps guaranteed? SoYouStart stops at 500mbps, and I'm not even sure how much is "guaranteed".

  • saif0506saif0506 Member

    As per my Point of View - wholesaleinternet & nocix those 2 are USA most cheap dedicated provider

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @saif0506 said:
    As per my Point of View - wholesaleinternet & nocix those 2 are USA most cheap dedicated provider

    same company, same DC.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    @Shot2 said:

    @sandoz said:
    I believe that you may find That with Soyoustart (OVH) or Pulseheberg.. However firstheberg have nices prices for storage vps and dedicated servers... The problem is setup of dedicated server.

    1Gbps guaranteed? SoYouStart stops at 500mbps, and I'm not even sure how much is "guaranteed".

    Nop. I didn't say that. Of course for the price won't be guaranteed.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    @sandoz said:
    Nop. I didn't say that. Of course for the price won't be guaranteed.

    The heatwave takes its toll eh? :D

    @HostMT3 said:
    Is not easy to find that with 1Gbps guaranteed...

    @Shot2 said:
    You won't.

    @sandoz said:
    I believe that you may find That with Soyoustart (OVH) or Pulseheberg..

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