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[TOOL] NVMe/SSD/HDD S.M.A.R.T Monitoring - Testing

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  • PieHasBeenEatenPieHasBeenEaten Member, Host Rep

    Who uses a lol domain? Yeah not going to take you serious!

    Thanked by 1bulbasaur
  • dIsKdIsK Member
    edited June 2022

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said: “The domain disk.lol is blocked by due to a network filtering policy.” is what I see on the company's direct connection or VPN.

    Oh wow, you know you can block any site you like? The new magic technology :)

    And not so blocked it seems.

    https://check-host.net/check-http?host=https://disk.lol/
    https://dig.ping.pe/disk.lol:A:8.8.8.8
    https://dig.ping.pe/disk.lol:A:1.1.1.1
    https://ping.sx/dig?t=disk.lol
    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://disk.lol
    https://archive.ph/SowJ0

  • edited June 2022

    @dIsK said:

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said: Nope. Having skipped the first one, that one I filed under “we are telling you how things might look, not accusing you of being that way”. For someone who is fond of telling others to learn to read, you seem to be having a lot of trouble grasping that concept.

    So once again :)

    Hi.

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said: OK, so I missed that message

    message != messages

    Correct.

    I missed one message, not multiple messages as you are trying to imply.

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said: Read the thread again. No one has said you have any such intention

    Am i the one who can not read? :)

    I missed the one message where such a direct statement was made, and looking at it again even that wasn't a direct accusation. “You wouldn't be the first person to slip malware into an opensource stuff” does not accuse you of intending to, only says you wouldn't be the first if you did, and it is past incidents of that sort of thing that make people wary of the things we are warning you we will be wary about. So even the message that I missed, that you got so het up about, is a message that you are unreasonable in getting so het up about… Congratulations: by mentioning it again you have highlighted that your take is even less reasonable than I originally thought.

    I note once more, as I see you have failed to acknowledge it again: you were getting shouty and insulting before what you claim are direct accusations (which actually aren't such really).

    Am i the one who can not read? :)

    You are the only one claiming no one else can read, while apparently failing to comprehend anything that everyone else is writing…

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said: “The domain disk.lol is blocked by due to a network filtering policy.” is what I see on the company's direct connection or VPN.

    Oh wow, you know you can block any site you like? The new magic technology :)

    I haven't blocked it, that is not what I'm saying at all. It is blocked by at least one popular DNS filtering service, the one my employer uses, and most likely more.

    Those tests do not disprove what I'm saying, even the check against CF's public DNS server (1.1.1.1). Their public DNS lookup service is not the same as the DNS filtering service that many companies and other facilities use, the former is a simple recursive lookup service that filters very little (just that which local laws demand), the other is explicitly an attack surface management tool.

  • @dIsK said:

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said: “The domain disk.lol is blocked by due to a network filtering policy.” is what I see on the company's direct connection or VPN.

    Oh wow, you know you can block any site you like? The new magic technology :)

    And not so blocked it seems.

    https://check-host.net/check-http?host=https://disk.lol/
    https://dig.ping.pe/disk.lol:A:8.8.8.8
    https://dig.ping.pe/disk.lol:A:1.1.1.1
    https://ping.sx/dig?t=disk.lol
    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://disk.lol
    https://archive.ph/SowJ0

    You come off as a bit of a dick.

  • dIsKdIsK Member

    @NobodyInteresting said: You come off as a bit of a dick.

    So it is not blocked ;) And yes i have dick, you pussy.

  • @dIsK said:

    @NobodyInteresting said: You come off as a bit of a dick.

    So it is not blocked

    Apart from the services that do filter it…

    None of the tests you performed are against services that would be expected to block anything much.

  • @dIsK said:

    @NobodyInteresting said: You come off as a bit of a dick.

    So it is not blocked ;) And yes i have dick, you pussy.

    Doubtful, but you keep telling yourself all that :-)

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    Ok calm down now people.

    Hi @dIsK, with all due respect, kudos to you and your team of "IT students" for developing such a tool; I'm sure there are people who would find it useful and appreciate its existence.

    Having gone through this entire thread, based on the responses/feedback I've seen, this is the sort of feedback you should've anticipated, especially when you've created a tool for the public and sharing it by joining forums with new accounts, putting it on a fresh new domain (let's just ignore the TLD for now), a newly created GitHub and at the same time, maintaining your anonymity.

    I know you've been trying to defend your work and doing what you can to ensure that it's "safe" but please don't get all touchy if members of this community, and/or others, have doubts, trust issues and are paranoid - people have their reasons.

    As of now, you and your tool does not break any of our current rules so I hope it stays that way.

    Cheers ✌️

  • dIsKdIsK Member
    edited June 2022

    @DP said: As of now, you and your tool does not break any of our current rules so I hope it stays that way.

    Our intention was never to bring malware/virus, just pure clean code.
    We never cared about domain extension much (disk.lol was short one enaugh with privacy enabled), if you have any idea, well.
    From now on, i will just ignore everyone who have/had trust problems (we have hash checks, we have virustotal) - don´t trust, verify ;)

    Thanked by 1DP
  • Again, they are not testing what I am talking about. For instance, why would end-user DNS filtering affect a speed test service at all?

    From now on, i will just ignore everyone who have/had trust problems

    You have entirely missed the points some (not just myself) were making, but there is little reason to try clarify them because you seem oddly determined not to understand.

    Have fun.

  • @dIsK said:

    @NobodyInteresting said: You come off as a bit of a dick.

    So it is not blocked ;) And yes i have dick, you pussy.

    I show you my disks, you show me boobas.

  • Are you talking about in RAID mode or JBOD only mode?

  • @CheepCluck said:

    @dIsK said:
    @CheepCluck
    Idk you read what you wrote? Crap AI bot.

    Yes if you do not trust the script you manually download it and inspect it before run.

    This is my last reply to you. I wont talk to some AI bot. Re-read your crap, maybe you better understand. Oh and learn to read.

    Why so hurt little weasel?

    Oh shit, plot twist. Didn't see that coming.

  • ZappieZappie Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @TimboJones said: Are you talking about in RAID mode or JBOD only mode?

    I was talking about hardware raid cards where /dev/sda is no longer a representation of a physical disk. With smartctl you need to passthrough the physical device too (which the script now is doing, wasnt initially but that feature was added now

    Thanked by 1dIsK
  • dIsKdIsK Member

    Little optimized our main site for speed load.
    Re-worked readme on github https://github.com/0xDiSk/NVMe-SSD-HDD-S.M.A.R.T-Monitoring/blob/main/README.md

    • Added "thanks section"
    • Added "does it work section"
    • Added "page speed tests"
    • Added "archived links for site and scripts - wayback machine, archive.today"
  • dIsKdIsK Member

    Finally made the wanted change: Don´t send serial number.

    From now on, when you send S.M.A.R.T data to our api, the serial number is removed, means we do not get the serial number in any possible way.

    https://github.com/0xDiSk/NVMe-SSD-HDD-S.M.A.R.T-Monitoring/commit/aa21a77d5b1013714736fbc955007fbcb41ba782

  • dIsKdIsK Member

    Got a second domain:
    https://diskcheck.co/

    Scripts updates will follow. We will keep disk.lol too, its too short to not keep.

  • @dIsK said:
    Got a second domain:
    https://diskcheck.co/

    Scripts updates will follow. We will keep disk.lol too, its too short to not keep.

    Everybody, drop your pants and trust the OP. It's a respected extension now.

    Thanked by 1ralf
  • ralfralf Member

    I am capable of reading scripts, however it's still time-consuming to do and I'd only do it if I was reasonably confident that there was some upside to it for me.

    So far, you haven't given us any information on why your product and/or service is any better than "smartctl -a /dev/sda |grep -i error" as a cronjob.

  • @ralf said:

    So far, you haven't given us any information on why your product and/or service is any better than "smartctl -a /dev/sda |grep -i error" as a cronjob.

    Hey... they don't have a funny sounding domain any more. So there's that.

  • dIsKdIsK Member
    edited June 2022

    @ralf because:

    • You can share with others the disk info
    • How much hours has been the disk run without any errors
    • Show other when the disk is failing
    • Get temperature chart
    • You also will have complete and original (without the serial number) s.m.a.r.t history of your disk(s) when sending s.m.a.r.t data to our api
    • Our script also checks the disks in hardware raid, which normally smartctl without scripting it first won´t do
    • And also you can get it working on windows, with the same things as above.
    • You contribute to our little community of disk fans who love s.m.a.r.t data, who love disks, who love to code things

    We also thinking about special "battle page":

    • So when you submit your disk s.m.a.r.t data you will battle other s.m.a.r.t data like power hours, etc
    • Maybe we can also include little disk benchmark so then you can battle other with your disk speed
  • dIsKdIsK Member

    @dIsK said: We also thinking about special "battle page":

    First "battle page" done :)
    https://diskcheck.co/battle-power_on_hours

  • ralfralf Member

    @dIsK said:

    @dIsK said: We also thinking about special "battle page":

    First "battle page" done :)
    https://diskcheck.co/battle-power_on_hours

    I'm not going to trust scripts from some rando, but you can add this datapoint:

    # smartctl -a /dev/sda |awk '/Power_On/ {print $10;}'
    77540
    
  • dIsKdIsK Member

    @ralf you don´t ned to trust, everything has been verified ;)
    I can not add your "datapoint", when you send data to api only then it get the s.m.a.r.t data.

  • ralfralf Member

    Yeah, no. Thanks.

  • dIsKdIsK Member
    edited June 2022

    Sure, next time you visit some page, you run some script, be sure you personally know who coded it, and you trust the person (because when you trust, the hack can not happen right?).
    Must be sad life be so paranoid :)

    So glad antiviruses and antimalwares exists :)
    But paranoids don´t trust antiviruses and antimalwares right.

    As you are one from category paranoid -> I will just ignore you (we have hash checks, we have virustotal) - don´t trust, verify ;)

    Btw "Battle page" now show NVMe too.

  • ralfralf Member

    You STILL don't get it do you. The threat that we perceive isn't that by some accident a virus has infected this somehow. The threat we perceive is that we don't trust scripts written by total strangers, because we don't trust YOU, a total stranger.

    On the one hand, you tell us we can read the script to be sure it's safe, however to do a proper security audit takes time, longer than it would take to write a script to do such a simple task myself, and you've yet to offer any compelling reason that makes it worth my time to do so.

    The main advantage seems to be for people who can't figure out how to write a script to do this themselves, and those people are in no position to assess it from a security perspective.

    Moreover the fact that you are so desperate for people to run your script makes it look all the more suspicious, and the fact that you think just hashing a file proves that it's completely safe shows that you either know nothing about security threat models, or you're just playing dumb. Neither option makes me want to be your test case.

  • dIsKdIsK Member
    edited June 2022

    @ralf said: Moreover the fact that you are so desperate for people to run your script makes it look all the more suspicious

    You don´t need to run it.
    All i was saying is that you don´t need to trust in person to run a script.
    Because you can inpect it.
    Because you can verify it.
    Because you can virus test it.
    Because you can malware test it.

    @ralf said: and the fact that you think just hashing a file proves that it's completely safe shows that you either know nothing about security threat models, or you're just playing dumb

    You would need then hack our site and also our github to get the hashes changed and when the hashes changes the verify-and-run.sh would not run smart.sh because you downloaded it when the hashes was the same aka not "hacked" ;)

    https://github.com/0xDiSk/NVMe-SSD-HDD-S.M.A.R.T-Monitoring/blob/main/verify-and-run.sh#L32

    @ralf said: or you're just playing dumb

    not the one who is dumb, look at you :)

    You know you can download the script only once and not updating it? running the same version from your server until you update it with wget,curl or manually copy->paste?

  • @dIsK
    Why maintain so much secrecy / anonymity? If you are coming out do so with some more credible info about yourself, your so called team and such. Will help gain some more trust in the community.
    Else be ready to be a laughing stock

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