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  • benjamin74benjamin74 Member
    edited May 2022

    I Have 3 VPS with them, all in Germany.

    • one windows "virtual" desktop, for a few apps that only works on windows. VPS S SSD
    • one for development, VPS S NVME
    • one to host a mailing app (that sends through amazon SES, not contabo's IP), VPS S NVME

    Here are the yabs for the 2 linux.

    `# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2022-05-06

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sun 08 May 2022 09:02:32 AM CEST

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 85 days, 13 hours, 36 minutes
    Processor : AMD EPYC 7282 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2794.748 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM : 7.8 GiB
    Swap : 2.0 GiB
    Disk : 97.9 GiB
    Distro : Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
    Kernel : 5.4.0-62-generic

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 23.24 MB/s (5.8k) 331.69 MB/s (5.1k)
    Write 23.26 MB/s (5.8k) 333.43 MB/s (5.2k)
    Total 46.50 MB/s (11.6k) 665.12 MB/s (10.3k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 2.49 GB/s (4.8k) 2.67 GB/s (2.6k)
    Write 2.62 GB/s (5.1k) 2.84 GB/s (2.7k)
    Total 5.12 GB/s (10.0k) 5.51 GB/s (5.3k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 198 Mbits/sec | 199 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 192 Mbits/sec | 199 Mbits/sec
    Hybula | The Netherlands (40G) | 199 Mbits/sec | 198 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 140 Mbits/sec | 194 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 174 Mbits/sec | 188 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 180 Mbits/sec | 186 Mbits/sec

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 752
    Multi Core | 2547
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/14781526`

    and for the other one:

    `# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2022-05-06

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Sun 08 May 2022 09:01:49 AM CEST

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 100 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes
    Processor : AMD EPYC 7282 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2794.748 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM : 7.8 GiB
    Swap : 2.0 GiB
    Disk : 97.9 GiB
    Distro : Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
    Kernel : 5.4.0-91-generic

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 23.30 MB/s (5.8k) 332.37 MB/s (5.1k)
    Write 23.31 MB/s (5.8k) 334.12 MB/s (5.2k)
    Total 46.62 MB/s (11.6k) 666.50 MB/s (10.4k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 3.85 GB/s (7.5k) 4.67 GB/s (4.5k)
    Write 4.05 GB/s (7.9k) 4.98 GB/s (4.8k)
    Total 7.91 GB/s (15.4k) 9.66 GB/s (9.4k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 198 Mbits/sec | 199 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 190 Mbits/sec | 199 Mbits/sec
    Hybula | The Netherlands (40G) | 199 Mbits/sec | 200 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 146 Mbits/sec | 194 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 106 Mbits/sec | 1.41 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 176 Mbits/sec | 186 Mbits/sec

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 729
    Multi Core | 2615
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/14781522`

    I have never had to deal with the support so can't comment on this.

    Hetrixtool uptime reported is 99.9841% and 99.7047% but to be honest I'm clearly responsible for stopping the later (Dev) server manually a few times.

    I'm happy with them but don't host any mission-critical app on them either, even the Mailing App could cope with a few downtimes.

    The only thing I really hate is their invoices... what a mess...

    Cheers

    Thanked by 1tmepy
  • serv_eeserv_ee Member

    Eh. Made a decent seedbox. 4/5

  • i voted 1 because they never activate my order and always cancel it.

  • Tony40Tony40 Member

    They offer great service at unbeatable prices on the VPS market.

  • @tmepy said: When I searched contabo nothing useful came up..

    Try looking in your firewall logs and you may notice search hits for the b'stards that port scan and attempt hacks, from Contabo.

  • @AlwaysSkint said:

    @tmepy said: When I searched contabo nothing useful came up..

    Try looking in your firewall logs and you may notice search hits for the b'stards that port scan and attempt hacks, from Contabo.

    All the ones I see are from chinese residential IP's and alibaba cloud

  • @szymonp said: All the ones I see..

    lfd: (PERMBLOCK) 154.12.239.122 (US/United States/vmi868424.contaboserver.net) has had more than 4 temp blocks in the last 86400 secs - Sat Jun 4 01:09:37 2022
    Random grab from one recent Ryzen VPS.

  • @AlwaysSkint said:

    @szymonp said: All the ones I see..

    lfd: (PERMBLOCK) 154.12.239.122 (US/United States/vmi868424.contaboserver.net) has had more than 4 temp blocks in the last 86400 secs - Sat Jun 4 01:09:37 2022
    Random grab from one recent Ryzen VPS.

    I guess it depends on the IP range. I would recommend to switch the ssh port and install a honeypot on port 22.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited June 2022

    Whoosh! The point was, Contabo host malicious lusers. (..as do many other providers.)

    Thanked by 1AXYZE
  • LeeLee Veteran

    I was both curious and bored for a minute and I always like to keep an eye on UK locations so I gave their UK VPS 8.99 tier a try. Dogshit. That is all.

    Thanked by 2AXYZE Nekki
  • @jsg said:
    and FWIW: My benchmarking showed that their St. Louis DC had by far the best connectivity of their USA locations.

    All their other USA locations are singlehomed to Cogent (even on IPv6, so goodbye HE customers!) - St. Louis is the one that has a relatively decent network connectivity.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited June 2022

    @AlwaysSkint said:

    @szymonp said: All the ones I see..

    lfd: (PERMBLOCK) 154.12.239.122 (US/United States/vmi868424.contaboserver.net) has had more than 4 temp blocks in the last 86400 secs - Sat Jun 4 01:09:37 2022
    Random grab from one recent Ryzen VPS.

    I'm not sure they even have Ryzen nodes, AFAIK it's all Epycs.

    But yes, I wouldn't be surprised if they had tons of abusers. As I already said multiple times, their hardware is really fine (incl. top-class SSDs and NVMes) and their network is OK too (but not great), but their node and VM monitoring seems to be poor, so many (most?) nodes look "overloaded"/"high steal" due to abusers.

    That said, while I wouldn't put a high load, very high disk IO or latency sensitive application on their VPS the way some people paint Contabo / @contabo_m VPSs is just ridiculous. Those systems are easily good and fast enough for normal use cases and certainly not worse, and indeed even better, than many, many VPS offered here at LET. Look at their "oh so poor 200 Mb/s only" connectivity; first, that's a very normal and common limit, second you actually get 200 Mb/s (which you don't with many other 200 Mb/s providers), and third 95+% of Contabo's customer do not even use and need half of that. A propos "Cogent only": Their clearly fattest path is 1299/Telia and AFAIK there is no single homed Contabo location, not a single one.

    Looking at it with a reasonable expectation those VPS clearly are among the better ones for normal users and one gets a lot of bang per buck.
    And btw, one doesn't grow to become a global Tb/s provider with 6 digit customer - and server! - numbers if one doesn't offer attractive products and services.

    So, all in all, is Contabo a top-performance provider? Nope - but it's a provider offering lots of bang for one's bucks plus some cream on top like e.g. 32 TB traffic volume or really nice VPS at very reasonable prices in SGP.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @Lee said:
    I was both curious and bored for a minute and I always like to keep an eye on UK locations so I gave their UK VPS 8.99 tier a try. Dogshit. That is all.

    Contabo never changes.
    Just choose netcup/phpfriends for Germany and Hetzner for US. Enjoy 1-10Gbps good quality network for pennies and no big problems with abusers/overselling.

    Chose Contabo only for things noncritical things /as second failsafe server / if you need SGP with 32TB traffic.

    Thanked by 4Erisa bulbasaur Lee nick_
  • bruh21bruh21 Member, Host Rep

    @jsg said: AFAIK there is no single homed Contabo location, not a single one.

    https://bgp.tools/prefix/154.53.48.0/21#connectivity

  • @jsg said:

    @AlwaysSkint said:

    @szymonp said: All the ones I see..

    lfd: (PERMBLOCK) 154.12.239.122 (US/United States/vmi868424.contaboserver.net) has had more than 4 temp blocks in the last 86400 secs - Sat Jun 4 01:09:37 2022
    Random grab from one recent Ryzen VPS.

    I'm not sure they even have Ryzen nodes, AFAIK it's all Epycs.

    But yes, I wouldn't be surprised if they had tons of abusers. As I already said multiple times, their hardware is really fine (incl. top-class SSDs and NVMes) and their network is OK too (but not great), but their node and VM monitoring seems to be poor, so many (most?) nodes look "overloaded"/"high steal" due to abusers.

    That said, while I wouldn't put a high load, very high disk IO or latency sensitive application on their VPS the way some people paint Contabo / @contabo_m VPSs is just ridiculous. Those systems are easily good and fast enough for normal use cases and certainly not worse, and indeed even better, than many, many VPS offered here at LET. Look at their "oh so poor 200 Mb/s only" connectivity; first, that's a very normal and common limit, second you actually get 200 Mb/s (which you don't with many other 200 Mb/s providers), and third 95+% of Contabo's customer do not even use and need half of that. A propos "Cogent only": Their clearly fattest path is 1299/Telia and AFAIK there is no single homed Contabo location, not a single one.

    Looking at it with a reasonable expectation those VPS clearly are among the better ones for normal users and one gets a lot of bang per buck.
    And btw, one doesn't grow to become a global Tb/s provider with 6 digit customer - and server! - numbers if one doesn't offer attractive products and services.

    So, all in all, is Contabo a top-performance provider? Nope - but it's a provider offering lots of bang for one's bucks plus some cream on top like e.g. 32 TB traffic volume or really nice VPS at very reasonable prices in SGP.

    He means it's his ryzen vps getting attacks from contabo's network

    Thanked by 3jsg AlwaysSkint AXYZE
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited June 2022

    @AXYZE said:

    @Lee said:
    I was both curious and bored for a minute and I always like to keep an eye on UK locations so I gave their UK VPS 8.99 tier a try. Dogshit. That is all.

    Contabo never changes.
    Just choose netcup/phpfriends for Germany and Hetzner for US. Enjoy 1-10Gbps good quality network for pennies and no big problems with abusers/overselling.

    Chose Contabo only for things noncritical things /as second failsafe server / if you need SGP with 32TB traffic.

    Pardon me, but that's a bunch of anti-Contabo BS. phpfriends I didn't test/benchmark, so I won't say anything about them, netcup is nice, I like them and have a VDS with them myself but I fail to see why you say they're "better", and Hetzner, I did test and frankly, I was quite disappointed. My cheap Contabo VPS easily wins over the 2 Skylake cores, 4 GB Hetzner VPS I tested (roughly same price as the small Contabo VPS). Single core performance and spread similar, multi-core very clear win for Contabo, AES and RSA similar, 4k/4t disk performance ca. 5 times that of the Hetzner VPS and IOPS over 4 times higher. Network results were largely in the same ballpark but Hetzner seems to not have limited the bandwidth which gave them a significant advantage to a few (as in '3 or 4') european targets (like e.g. UK, LON).

    Get it already, every provider in that price range has to make compromises somewhere. Some simply give you crappy stone-age E5-v2 cores (both Hetzner and Contabo dont, they both use decent modern processors), many give you crappy disks (Contabo doesn't and neither does Hetzner I guess but my DE Contabo VM happens to be NVMe while Hetzner (I presume) was only SSD but by no means a crappy one), some have crappy connectivity, many have BW limits, with some service is poor, whatever it may be but all of them have to and make compromises.

    Do I say that because I'm a Contabo fanboy? Nope, I do see their problem and I do wish that they soon get their monitoring up to par and reign in on abusers; I like everyone else hate to basically play lottery when getting a VPS ("will I end up on an abuser ridden node or on a lucky one?").
    So, unlike many I do not consider Contabo an excellent provider - but neither is it crappy as some here like to insinuate.
    Plus - and that's a big plus: I've seen very few providers who were so transparent and provided even info that most providers would keep closed with teeth and claws.

    @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said: AFAIK there is no single homed Contabo location, not a single one.

    https://bgp.tools/prefix/154.53.48.0/21#connectivity

    From your source:

    bgp.tools/as/40021 says:

    Upstreams

    AS174 - Cogent Communications
    AS3356 - Lumen (Level 3)
    AS62943 - Bluebird Network
    

    .

    @szymonp said:
    He means it's his ryzen vps getting attacks from contabo's network

    OK, maybe I got him wrong, but anyway that was more of a side note.

    Edit: And if one really needs outstanding connectivity there's @Hybula (but understandably and justifiably rarely in the Contabo or Hetzner price range). Next to Hybula pretty much all cheap providers (and many expensive ones too) look crappy in terms of connectivity.
    So, if someone wants to think I'm some providers fanboy then that'd be Hybula and NexusBytes.

    Thanked by 1Hybula
  • Tony40Tony40 Member
    edited June 2022

    I use Contabo for my YunoHost self-hosted Apps. never had any problem .. can't complain about what I get for cheap.

    Thanked by 1Ympker
  • bruh21bruh21 Member, Host Rep

    @jsg said: From your source:

    >

    for the specific subnet, the upstream is only cogent given the link

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited June 2022

    @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said: From your source:

    >

    for the specific subnet, the upstream is only cogent given the link

    OK, do you happen to know (with reasonable certainty) how Contabo uses that subnet?
    And still, I guess they don't aquire (not the cheapest) bandwidth, e.g. from 1299 or L3, just for the fun of it. Maybe the subnet you're talking about isn't representative.

  • bruh21bruh21 Member, Host Rep

    @jsg said:

    @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said: From your source:

    >

    for the specific subnet, the upstream is only cogent given the link

    OK, do you happen to know (with reasonable certainty) how Contabo uses that subnet?
    And still, I guess they don't aquire (not the cheapest) bandwidth, e.g. from 1299 or L3, just for the fun of it. Maybe the subnet you're talking about isn't representative.

    I know they use that subnet because I had a VPS on it

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said:

    @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said: From your source:

    >

    for the specific subnet, the upstream is only cogent given the link

    OK, do you happen to know (with reasonable certainty) how Contabo uses that subnet?
    And still, I guess they don't aquire (not the cheapest) bandwidth, e.g. from 1299 or L3, just for the fun of it. Maybe the subnet you're talking about isn't representative.

    I know they use that subnet because I had a VPS on it

    Have fun arguing with this guy, where he’d go around in circles claiming that there’s a probability that statement X is not true, even though you just presented evidence to the contrary. See also: the HS involucration thread, and the “benchmark war” (not my words) thread.

    Thanked by 1AXYZE
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @stevewatson301 said:

    @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said:

    @bruh21 said:

    @jsg said: From your source:

    >

    for the specific subnet, the upstream is only cogent given the link

    OK, do you happen to know (with reasonable certainty) how Contabo uses that subnet?
    And still, I guess they don't aquire (not the cheapest) bandwidth, e.g. from 1299 or L3, just for the fun of it. Maybe the subnet you're talking about isn't representative.

    I know they use that subnet because I had a VPS on it

    Have fun arguing with this guy, where he’d go around in circles claiming that there’s a probability that statement X is not true,

    No, I thanked him.

    even though you just presented evidence to the contrary.

    No, he didn't present evidence, he just made a statement that may or may not be true.
    No problem, but typical for you to make up things and/or to "enhance" facts.

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • 1/1 for me, pretty bad.

  • _cece_cece Member

    contabo was for me one of the worst expierience ever. The disks were usually slow as floppy drives. Not worth the money.

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