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Also, having a seedbox with a 10Gbps speed means pretty much any torrent I decide to download, let's say it's a 200GB torrent and it downloads to the seedbox in 2 or 3 minutes. My home internet speed is 200Mbps, and I can download directly from the seedbox onto my personal computer at max speed, so instead of waiting many hours or even days for a torrent to complete from home connection, I can download via seedbox in less than 10 minutes.
really, this near/at the top for me in the end. Shady streaming sites using shady ad networks ends up with 0day exploits in an ad eventually, and I trust where I'm sourcing content a HELL of a lot more than I do any random streaming site.
good luck finding seedbox with disk writing speed 1GB/s (this is 10Gbps) and capacity few hundreds GBs and reasonable price
so what is the purpose of super fast downloading file to seedbox with speed of 10Gbps if later you have to download this file from seedbox to your home with speed of 200Mbps??????????????????????????????????????????????
Seedboxes are good for downloading and sharing content. It's not just about speed, it's also about the content wanted. Some countries do not accept torrents, or content which may be subject to DMCA. To avoid this, a seedbox helps.
Content found for free is usually stuffed with advertisements. Also the quality of streaming may not be as viewer would want. By using a seedbox, the quality can be whatever you want.
I see some people compare a seedbox with Amazon. A seedbox can be used for more than that, like software, music, games, porn. Again: careful about DMCA.
Also: a seedbox means space. Unused space can be used for backups.
Average Anime torrent I download is between 1GB and 25GB. From the moment I add the download to the seedbox, it can take anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes to complete the download. To download from the seedbox to my PC, via either HTTP or SSH or FTP, takes 40 seconds per GB. A 10GB torrent can be double downloaded (seedbox first, then to home PC) in 10 minutes or less.
To download torrents directly on my home PC, I would first have to set up a VPS in a foreign country to use as a proxy, then set up a VPN to it, then run the torrent over that VPN proxy. I used to do that back when I had a very large hard disk at home, and it could take anywhere from 2 days to a month to complete a single torrent. I would run several hundred torrents at once, but it would take weeks to complete any given one. And, like I said earlier, the extreme churning of the hard disk activity from long-term seeding caused the hard disks to fail quickly. Even at Black Friday pricing, spending $300 a year replacing hard disks made me jump on a good seedbox deal. I now have a 16TB seedbox for just over $20/mo or basically $250/yr.
1GB in 30s means 0.3Gbps (not 10Gbps as you wrote before)
25GB in 3m means 1.4Gbps (not 10Gbps as you wrote before)
as you can see, effective speeds are far below your imagined 10Gbps
16TB seedboxes have mechanical hard disks, which in sequential operations have at most 0.15-0.2GB/s (not 1GB/s as required to handle downloading with 10Gbpsas you wrote before). torrenting is highly random use case scenario, so effective disk speeds are much much lower
and for sure, in that budget, your seedbox has SHARED port not dedicated, so you can't use it continuously in full speed (10Gbps or 1Gbps)
you just don't know what you are talking about, and what are limits of your service (definitely not able to reach 10Gbps download speed)
nobody is questioning, that dedicated seedbox in the remote (off shore) cloud is much better solution for torrenting, than doing it from home (directly or by VPN)
I'm surprised you had multiple drives fail so frequently, even seeding a ton. My 2TB drives made it an average of 5 years between 8 drives, and my 3x 10TB drives are a little over 3 years old now and going strong. I don't have more than 1000 torrents going, but TB after TB seeding at my 20mbit cap. Too many simultaneous uploads? I don't have much churning but cap it to 20 uploads, 4 per max.
maybe he is using Seagate drivers, they all are dying sooner or later... never again!!!
Absolute facts. I swore off of them years ago, I've been shucking WD externals for home use lately and the drives have been reliable.
You're just twisting my words. I was giving a very generalized overview of my real-world experience. I do in fact have a @PulsedMedia seedbox that has 16TB of storage and has a 10Gbps link. That absolutely does not in any way mean that I can magically download any torrent in the whole world at 10Gbps. That's not how torrent technology works, and everyone reading this knows that. The speed depends entirely on the quality of the seeds. I have had 200GB torrents complete in a minute or two, and I have had 500MB torrents that have taken a full week to download.
But on average, my experience has been that I can basically download anything I feel like any time I want with basically no waiting, maybe a minute or two and they've completed. Furthermore, I hardly ever actually download files from the seedbox to my home PC, unless it is a specific show that I'm actually ready to watch. 99% of my torrents are simply sitting on the seedbox waiting for someday when I might be ready to watch them, and more importantly, they are seeding 24/7 which is for the benefit of the private anime sharing communities that I'm a member of. In short, the primary purpose of my seedbox is actually to be a seedbox--scandalous!
To reiterate one of my other points, even though I have a 200Mbps max download speed at home, I can't get more than 5Mbps if I'm running torrents from my home PC because the ISP throttles it. Yes, even over a VPN. My download gets throttled to 5Mbps and my upload gets throttled to 15KBps. So having a seedbox allows me to download hundreds of times faster, provides the same size of storage as hard drives for a lower yearly cost, and allows me to seed 24/7 at up to 10Gbps. Which, if you want to be a pedant, is exactly 87,381.33 times faster than 15KBps. In fact, even just a 100Mbps uplink would still be 853x faster than my home upload speed, so a "shared" server doesn't bother me a bit. And my ISP doesn't throttle HTTP or SSH file transfers, meaning that when I actually do want to watch something, those downloads are 40x faster at a minimum. So yes, the seedbox is very worthwhile for me.
no, I am not twisting antything. as it was you who wrote:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3357612/#Comment_3357612
downloading 200GB file in 3 minutes means speed of 11Gbps (1.1GB/s disk write), which is order of magnitude beyond performance of your seedbox
and I proved you with details, why you are wrong, and you can't download with such speed with seedbox which you have (congratulations to the seller who squeezed you for $250 a product, the limits of which you do not understand)
and i explained later, why having seedbox with effective 10Gbps download speed is pointless for you, if later you have to download it with speed of 0.2Gbps (this is your bottleneck, if considering access time to random new content)
I was generalizing, but you are insisting on being over-literal just to feel superior. Good for you.
200GB * 8 = 1600 Gb
1600Gb / 10 Gbps = 160 seconds
160 seconds = 2 minutes 40 seconds
2 min 40 sec < 3 minutes = TRUE
And I'm sure you're going to continue to harp about disk write speed, but frankly I don't care to speculate what mix of buffering PulsedMedia is doing, or go to the trouble of logging in via SSH to run an i/o test. All I care about is that it is working great, and I shared my experience in a very not-meant-to-be-taken-literally not-actual-measurements way. I don't need to prove anything, and I'm not going to further engage you in this thread.
so if finally you understand, that transferring 200GB in 3m would require 11Gbps and disk write 1.1Gbps, then just do not write such BS that you don't care how mechanical hard drive can have write speed 1.1GB/s for hundreds of GB and you don't care about sshing and tests
such tests for your seedbox (PulseMedia V10GL 16TB) were already done, and showed obvious facts (mechanical hard drives have speed order od magnitude lower than your 1.1GB/s):
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3305146/#Comment_3305146
Gotta have them ISO's!
I would put seeding first, which is giving back to the community. Otherwise one could just pay for debrid services and download /stream torrents safely in dirt cheap price.
Anecdotal. That's the word I was looking for earlier. My post was meant merely as an anecdotal report about how it "seems" like no matter what torrent I add, it "seems" to be done within 2-3 minutes, and the majority of them (from 1GB to 25GB in size) finish in what "seems" to be barely a minute. I never intended for a number I tossed out haphazardly to be taken literally, (in fact, I probably meant to type 20GB, not 200GB), but hey, trolls gotta troll.
But let's do some science anyway, just because. I just added 400GB worth of new downloads to my seedbox, and for awhile at first, it was above 3Gbps, so there's definitely some sort of caching going on, and then it leveled out at 200MBps (1.56Gbps) which matches the disk speed bottleneck reported above. So, not just anecdotally but now scientifically, that still means I can download any anime movie I want in less than 30 seconds, and an average anime series in roughly 2 minutes.
I'm on private trackers where I need to maintain ratio (seeding). Seedbox stays pretty much online 24/7, so I get bonus points for seeding. I push all the downloaded files to gdrive and watch everything on Plex with ease. Total worthy the time and money.
The free sites come and go. Same with the content on paid streaming services. The content on my media server is forever.
From my point of IT-l33t (sorry), it's just my comfort, time and freedom of choice. I'm hearing impaired so I like en+en subs / foreign audio+ru subs / ru+ru subs and legal tubes going good with subs but torrents are not (it was vise versa just 2 yrs ago, but not now). I have a plenty of private trackers with good ratio for fresh releases (ave OVH seedboxes) and I love them, but I going to (c)-slaves more this year - and they are dirt cheap with yearly subscriptions
Hey, what plan was that, do you have link for it if it is still available?
Blackfriday Flash deal, long gone now!
LoL.
This crap is that expensive already?
Man, you are poor.
Apocalypse is near, didn't you hear?
Imagine yourself without internet and/or power and then?
Nothing to walk the dog.
Terrible, even a glorified pocket calculator stripped with a Disk would save your dog.
Some genset or cheap solar panel + cheap tablet like Fire HD 10 for like 60 bucks and you saved.
Depends on country and included services. I think it's still $79/year for Canada, but we get less servics than Americans.
@PulsedMedia Is the 450GB still available?
Lol I pay less than $20/year, yay to underdeveloped country with a shitty currency.
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