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Do you use IPv6?

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  • @jsg said:

    @TimboJones said:

    And you, yet again, totally missed the point. They NEED IP4, and plenty of them-

    Why is this even a question or being discussed? Of fucking course they need them. They'd need even more if they weren't using IPv6 primarily.

    Because?

    Because topics matter? No one likes that guy who talks about shit other than the whole point of discussion.

    FB is one of those companies that has a Post-It notes budget higher than the revenue of your company.

    If that were true, then what? What were that proving?

    That they will use and need a lot of IPv4. Seems you agree with me and you were trying to make some point that's irrelevant to this discussion.

    Uhm, having a huge budget == needing a lot of IP4? Exotic "logic" ...

    You quoted my point, they need so many because they are so large. So large that small amounts they use dwarf what your mind thinks is large. And expecting them to use none is pure nonsense.

    We've all seen enough corporate giants who were hacked, and sometimes due to moronic errors.

    What does that have anything to do with IPv6 utilization?

    Nothing - before you asserted that having a huge budget == knowing and being right.

    Wtf? You've lost a marble. Facebook knowing and being right about what? You're having arguments in your head you should seek help for.

    But you know Facebook is actually fairly good at what they do, right? Half the motherfucking world is used by them. I heard they do alright, money wise...

    @babuum said:

    @jsg said:
    Maybe we should also make another poll with hosters: How many of your customers really (as opposing to making "advocacy noise") demand IPv6 (as in 'instead of IP4')? Does it reach 2 digit percentages? I have doubts.

    I don't even consider providers that don't offer IPv6. No IPv6 in 2021? I'm not interested in paying you money.

    So what?

    I'm not a provider, but if I happened to be one I'd think "OK, I accept that and wish him, the member of a really small minority, good luck and success to find a provider with IPv6"

    ... and those would quickly become far less if IP4 proponents pulled off the same attempt of blackmailing just the other way around "If you support IPv6 I won't buy. Bye"

    You're missing his point. The first movers, the ones who get into new markets often become the top player. They'll have the experience and technology for the new generation while the older ones stagnate and try and catch up. These companies that haven't kept on technology, on equipment will eventually lose their lunch.

  • @jsg said:

    trolling

    I'm not going to feed you anymore.

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  • BlazinDimesBlazinDimes Member
    edited December 2021

    Used to just leave it disabled as I had no idea what kind of wizardry was at work there and I only knew how to secure IPv4 connections.

    Then came a time where I used 4G LTE as home internet for a while in an unconventional way and was assigned IPv6 only by default yet connectivity was almost completely normal, a few services didn't like the tunneling, ended up having to learn it just enough to use it.

    Now I enable it, and will go so far as to troubleshoot if whichever router I'm using that week doesn't just auto config it as my current ISP provides it and I like that I don't have do near as much port forwarding in the IPv4 range for things like Xbox Live and probably other things I have forgotten because they just work.

    Its still some magical wizardry to me and something I'm not super well versed in, but thats due to lack of practice, I would probably use it more internally if I could type out an address before lunch, let alone remember the freakin' things. Yeah, I suppose I could just use DNS, but 10.x.x.x addresses are just plain old fun to organize with.

    Until I get more practice, I'm actually fine with it being disabled by default when it comes to external services, like with RackNerd. One of these days I'll learn it more than 'just enough to get by'. lol

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  • @BlazinDimes said:
    Yeah, I suppose I could just use DNS, but 10.x.x.x addresses are just plain old fun to organize with.

    There is nothing wrong with using IPv4 to connect to internal devices. I still do it even if all my servers have v6 connectivity.

    Until I get more practice, I'm actually fine with it being disabled by default when it comes to external services, like with RackNerd. One of these days I'll learn it more than 'just enough to get by'. lol

    It's mostly let the service bind to an IPv6 address (or just to anything) and add a AAAA record. You won't get practice by not using it.

  • to be IPv6 would deployed mainstream duel stack should be cheaper then just using IPv4, and only way that can happen is traffic cost is charged differently. not sure that's possible though

  • @babuum said:

    @BlazinDimes said:
    Yeah, I suppose I could just use DNS, but 10.x.x.x addresses are just plain old fun to organize with.

    There is nothing wrong with using IPv4 to connect to internal devices. I still do it even if all my servers have v6 connectivity.

    Good point.

    Until I get more practice, I'm actually fine with it being disabled by default when it comes to external services, like with RackNerd. One of these days I'll learn it more than 'just enough to get by'. lol

    It's mostly let the service bind to an IPv6 address (or just to anything) and add a AAAA record. You won't get practice by not using it.

    Also a good point.

    I guess its just not on my mind ever, I didn't even realize my VPS with RN didn't have IPv6 until just recently.

    It seems to just work as needed, where as I'm seemingly always messing with v4 routing, which I assume is the argument for it, as I only notice it when its not there and something needs it.

  • @Francisco said:

    @jar said:

    @jsg said: Maybe we should also make another poll with hosters: How many of your customers really (as opposing to making "advocacy noise") demand IPv6 (as in 'instead of IP4')? Does it reach 2 digit percentages? I have doubts.

    There are 13,332 active clients in the database. Their sub-users should be assumed to be exponentially higher. Demand for IPv6 has never exceeded the request of 3 users. If I'm mistaken on that figure, it's still under 5.

    On BuyShared I think we have maybe a half dozen users with IPV6, and I'm sure I recognize all of them from these forums.

    I'm not going to get on the pro/anti IPV6 wagon, I think BuyVM has done a pretty solid job of supporting it. With that being said, actual real-world usage is incredibly low. It's still in its hobbyist stage.

    Francisco

    Do you folks offer any IPv6 only boxes?

  • @jar said:

    @KermEd said:
    IPv6 is for poor people that can’t afford an IPv4.

    Realistically I suspect that's the reason v6 is more socially popular on LET than anywhere in the real world. Seeing the rising cost of v4 threatens cheap deals.

    For a lot of my personal hosting needs, I don't need IPv4 at all really. Everything I have offers IPv6.

  • I would even love to cut out IPv4 totally out of my life if I could. And with cheap/easy and lots of places free DNS management, no one has to really remember remember long IPv6 anyway. Cheap and plenty.

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  • @stoned said:

    Do you folks offer any IPv6 only boxes?

    Gullo does only ipv6 iirc

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  • No, my ISP doesn’t support IPv6, even if some situations such as DNS hijacking.

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  • emgemg Veteran

    My internet service provider offers both IPv4 and IPv6. I can enable either one or both of them independently.

    The problem I have is that my firewall license is limited to 50 active IP addresses. The type (IPv4 or IPv6) does not matter, only the total. Enabling both IPv4 and IPv6 more than doubles the number of active IP addresses. Combined, they come close to or exceed the license limit.

    If I turn off IPv6, nothing breaks. I am not aware of any IPv6 only servers or websites on the internet that I needed but could not reach. At least not yet.

    Maybe someday I might choose another firewall, but the one I have now works very well for me, so I am not likely to change.

  • no.

  • Y.. nope

  • I have a feeling that @yoursunny is lurking on this thread hard and waiting to spank those of us who disable IPv6.

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  • My using VPSes supports IPv6.
    My home line is not supported, but ...

  • @evergreen said:

    I'm curious to know why IPv6 faces so much resistance from the masses?

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    True

  • @babuum said:

    @jsg said:
    Maybe we should also make another poll with hosters: How many of your customers really (as opposing to making "advocacy noise") demand IPv6 (as in 'instead of IP4')? Does it reach 2 digit percentages? I have doubts.

    I don't even consider providers that don't offer IPv6. No IPv6 in 2021? I'm not interested in paying you money.

    Same here, I won't consider any provider that does not offer IPv6 and anything less than /112.

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  • @stoned said:

    @donli said:

    @stoned said:
    Hello fellow stoned people and not so stoned people!

    I'm curious to know why IPv6 faces so much resistance from the masses?

    Are you familiar with a company called ColoCrossing?

    Not really, apart from that they're RackNerd's backbone.

    *Grabs popcorn. Please continue

  • IPv6? Bitch please, I already switched to v9 and using yoursunny's IPv9 Antarctica VPS. The best service ever for Linux ISOs. Orderid #911420 Hope I'll get a discount for next renewal.

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  • Because in some places it only supports ipv4

  • @jmaxwell said:
    IPv6? Bitch please, I already switched to v9 and using yoursunny's IPv9 Antarctica VPS. The best service ever for Linux ISOs. Orderid #911420 Hope I'll get a discount for next renewal.

    Push-up porn is near the top of worst porn.

  • I use it when it's possible. My home internet providers also has native ipv6 and customers get a /56 prefix. Sadly, there are still providers that don't support ipv6 at all. v4 addresses are becoming expensive for everyone else except organizations that hoarded a lot of them back in the day.

  • I don't disable it but don't configure it either. My home line, work line and mobile don't have v6 support at all, I have no issues.

  • There really is no benefit in enabling it for me either. I just want to support it's adoption.

  • I could care less about legacy IP. I'm using legacy because I'm forced to use legacy. I'm 100% on board with IPv6 and require it for most of my functionality.

  • Yes I use and it´s a must, provider that doesn´t offer proper and working ipv6 is a joke.

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