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Benchmark/Review IncogNet - very pleasant surprises

jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
edited November 2021 in Reviews

Just in time for BF ... (no, unfortunately I do not know whether they are cooking some nice BF promo) ...

As some of you might know I've purchased one of IncogNet's / @MannDude promo VPS in NL, AMS about a month ago. As you might also know it didn't go flawlessly, but ...

Pleasant surprise No. 1: They have solved all problems I know of.

Pleasant surprise No. 2: They recognized and accepted all flaws and glitches and when in doubt they've always decided in the customers (my) favour. Ex. there was a glitch when ordering my 256 MB VPS and I only got 128 MB. Not only did they check and confirm that glitch and of course give me the memory I paid for but in fact they doubled it to 512 MB. Very nice and pleasant experience, Kudos MannDude!

Pleasant surprise No. 3: We all know it, don't expect support during weekends with low cost/promo systems, let alone quick support. Well, as it happened I opened a ticket on friday or saturday (don't remember, sorry), not to test IncogNet but simply because I had some small issue, and I not only got a response but in fact during the to and fro I got multiple quick responses during the weekend and incl. sunday (up to a few hours and some even within less than 1 hour). That's really amazing, Kudos again MannDude!

Pleasant surprise No. 4, the benchmark results. Have a look (based on almost 100 result sets):

Version 2.5.0, (c) 2018+ jsg (->lowendtalk.com)
Machine: amd64, Arch.: amd64, Model: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor            
OS, version: FreeBSD 13.0, Mem.: 478 MB
CPU - Cores: 1, Family/Model/Stepping: 23/113/0
Cache: 32K/32K L1d/L1i, 512K L2, 64M L3
Std. Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
          pse36 cflsh mmx fxsr sse sse2 sse3 pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1
          sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave osxsave avx f16c rdrnd hypervisor
Ext. Flags: fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb
          rdtscp lm lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy lzcnt sse4a misalignsse
          3dnowprefetch osvw

AES? Yes
Nested Virt.? Yes
HW RNG? Yes

ProcMem SC [MB/s]: avg 229.6 - min 105.2 (45.8 %), max 347.6 (151.4 %)
ProcMem MA [MB/s]: avg 336.7 - min 311.1 (92.4 %), max 349.9 (103.9 %)
ProcMem MB [MB/s]: avg 335.9 - min 319.6 (95.1 %), max 347.3 (103.4 %)
ProcMem AES [MB/s]: avg 1418.1 - min 1293.7 (91.2 %), max 1466.3 (103.4 %)
ProcMem RSA [kp/s]: avg 121.2 - min 105.2 (86.7 %), max 130.8 (107.9 %)

--- Disk 4 KB - Buffered ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 23.40 - min 18.83 (80.5%), max 29.45 (125.9%)
Write rnd. [MB/s]: avg 21.03 - min 18.64 (88.6%), max 24.70 (117.4%)
Read seq. [MB/s]:  avg 69.34 - min 61.50 (88.7%), max 84.16 (121.4%)
Read rnd. [MB/s]:  avg 62.74 - min 55.13 (87.9%), max 77.44 (123.4%)
--- Disk 4 KB - Sync/Direct ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 18.84 - min 15.45 (82.0%), max 21.37 (113.4%)
Write rnd. [MB/s]: avg 19.04 - min 17.55 (92.2%), max 21.28 (111.7%)
Read seq. [MB/s]:  avg 66.32 - min 60.20 (90.8%), max 75.20 (113.4%)
Read rnd. [MB/s]:  avg 60.20 - min 53.58 (89.0%), max 67.81 (112.6%)

--- Disk 64 KB - Buffered ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 162.41 - min 129.07 (79.5%), max 182.66 (112.5%)
Write rnd. [MB/s]: avg 174.78 - min 149.18 (85.4%), max 200.76 (114.9%)
Read seq. [MB/s]:  avg 3475.73 - min 2891.61 (83.2%), max 4065.34 (117.0%)
Read rnd. [MB/s]:  avg 708.52 - min 635.88 (89.7%), max 831.67 (117.4%)
--- Disk 64 KB - Sync/Direct ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 19.43 - min 16.93 (87.1%), max 21.39 (110.1%)
Write rnd. [MB/s]: avg 17.35 - min 15.37 (88.6%), max 19.58 (112.9%)
Read seq. [MB/s]:  avg 3471.60 - min 2795.62 (80.5%), max 4034.15 (116.2%)
Read rnd. [MB/s]:  avg 694.42 - min 639.24 (92.1%), max 752.46 (108.4%)

--- Disk 1 MB - Buffered ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 188.92 - min 141.18 (74.7%), max 202.94 (107.4%)
Write rnd. [MB/s]: avg 383.57 - min 275.75 (71.9%), max 427.39 (111.4%)
Read seq. [MB/s]:  avg 3366.15 - min 2767.06 (82.2%), max 3680.59 (109.3%)
Read rnd. [MB/s]:  avg 1525.58 - min 1359.30 (89.1%), max 1765.90 (115.8%)
--- Disk 1 MB - Sync/Direct ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 113.52 - min 100.44 (88.5%), max 129.59 (114.2%)
Write rnd. [MB/s]: avg 168.79 - min 131.99 (78.2%), max 190.15 (112.7%)
Read seq. [MB/s]:  avg 3404.81 - min 3080.30 (90.5%), max 3765.49 (110.6%)
Read rnd. [MB/s]:  avg 1540.47 - min 1408.12 (91.4%), max 1861.59 (120.8%)
--- Disk IOps (Sync/Direct) ---
Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 28.83 - min 27.14 (94.1%), max 31.46 (109.1%)
IOps             : avg 7380.34 - min 6947.02 (94.1%), max 8054.00 (109.1%)

--- Network ---
US LAX lax.download.datapacket.com [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 69.4 - min 52.5 (75.7%), max 77.6 (111.9%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 148.9 - min 144.3 (96.9%), max 153.2 (102.9%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 149.9 - min 145.8 (97.3%), max 159.6 (106.5%)

NO OSL speedtest.osl01.softlayer.com [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 279.4 - min 22.6 (8.1%), max 393.9 (140.9%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 24.3 - min 17.0 (69.8%), max 28.7 (117.9%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 39.8 - min 24.2 (60.8%), max 1312.6 (3298.9%)

US SJC speedtest.sjc01.softlayer.com [F: 37]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 26.3 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 68.3 (259.4%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 146.1 - min 143.7 (98.3%), max 148.9 (101.9%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 147.5 - min 143.7 (97.4%), max 155.7 (105.5%)

AU MEL speedtest.c1.mel1.dediserve.com [F: 30]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 19.0 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 36.3 (191.3%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 292.5 - min 291.8 (99.8%), max 296.7 (101.4%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 294.4 - min 291.8 (99.1%), max 305.0 (103.6%)

JP TOK speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com [F: 16]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 29.4 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 46.5 (158.2%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 241.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 249.1 (103.0%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 243.4 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 254.5 (104.6%)

IT MIL speedtest.mil01.softlayer.com [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 319.4 - min 27.1 (8.5%), max 416.0 (130.2%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 22.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 23.5 (103.3%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 22.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 23.5 (103.2%)

TR UNK 185.65.204.169 [F: 1]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 65.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 86.5 (131.5%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 42.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 64.6 (151.0%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 40.0 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 65.4 (163.7%)

FR PAR speedtest.par01.softlayer.com [F: 8]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 435.6 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 694.5 (159.4%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 12.3 - min 12.1 (98.8%), max 13.3 (108.6%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 60.2 - min 12.1 (20.1%), max 1383.6 (2299.6%)

SG SGP mirror.sg.leaseweb.net [F: 6]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 52.1 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 71.9 (138.1%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 156.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 162.9 (103.9%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 161.0 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 174.3 (108.3%)

BR SAO speedtest.sao01.softlayer.com [F: 35]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 21.0 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 53.9 (256.3%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 205.0 - min 202.0 (98.5%), max 208.2 (101.6%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 214.9 - min 202.0 (94.0%), max 841.3 (391.5%)

IN CHN speedtest.che01.softlayer.com [F: 19]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 41.4 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 75.2 (181.4%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 137.6 - min 130.4 (94.7%), max 149.4 (108.6%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 151.3 - min 130.5 (86.2%), max 933.4 (616.8%)

GR UNK speedtest.ftp.otenet.gr [F: 38]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 108.0 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 276.7 (256.2%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 20.5 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 40.5 (197.5%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 20.7 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 42.1 (203.7%)

US WDC mirror.wdc1.us.leaseweb.net [F: 5]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 96.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 130.7 (135.0%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 86.7 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 89.8 (103.6%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 88.2 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 96.4 (109.3%)

RU MOS speedtest.hostkey.ru [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 183.5 - min 51.0 (27.8%), max 276.8 (150.9%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 52.6 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 54.4 (103.4%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 52.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 54.6 (103.4%)

US DAL speedtest.dal05.softlayer.com [F: 32]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 35.5 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 88.7 (249.9%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 116.1 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 122.3 (105.3%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 138.8 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 1385.8 (998.1%)

RO BUC 185.183.99.8 [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 255.6 - min 27.2 (10.6%), max 350.2 (137.0%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 32.3 - min 31.3 (97.0%), max 34.3 (106.3%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 38.4 - min 31.6 (82.4%), max 84.0 (218.9%)

UK LON speedtest.lon02.softlayer.com [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 493.2 - min 73.9 (15.0%), max 761.4 (154.4%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 8.2 - min 7.9 (95.8%), max 10.5 (127.3%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 18.5 - min 8.0 (43.3%), max 735.3 (3982.4%)

US NYC nyc.download.datapacket.com [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 127.4 - min 98.9 (77.6%), max 141.5 (111.1%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 81.5 - min 79.7 (97.8%), max 87.8 (107.8%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 82.2 - min 79.9 (97.2%), max 92.6 (112.7%)

NL AMS mirror.nl.leaseweb.net [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 716.4 - min 433.2 (60.5%), max 836.6 (116.8%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 1.5 - min 1.3 (88.0%), max 6.1 (413.1%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 1.6 - min 1.4 (88.1%), max 6.1 (384.1%)

CN HK mirror.hk.leaseweb.net [F: 8]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 43.4 - min 0.0 (0.0%), max 59.3 (136.8%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 201.2 - min 191.0 (94.9%), max 243.2 (120.8%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 201.5 - min 191.0 (94.8%), max 243.2 (120.7%)

DE FRA fra.lg.core-backbone.com [F: 0]
  DL [Mb/s]:      avg 601.0 - min 164.5 (27.4%), max 817.5 (136.0%)
  Ping [ms]:      avg 7.2 - min 7.0 (97.3%), max 8.0 (111.3%)
  Web ping [ms]:  avg 7.8 - min 7.1 (91.4%), max 8.7 (112.0%)

First I need to mention wrt processor the lowest ("min") and 'avg' ProcMem numbers are based in part on a 1/2 Core VM which I originally had and which was soon upgraded to a full core. But still, I like the fact that there is no "fair use shared" hokuspokus going on and IncogNet seem to not overcrowd/oversell their nodes. When you purchase a 50% core VM that's what you really get, and once my VM was upgraded to a full core that's what I really get. The systems feels pretty much like a VDS.

With the current (upgraded) system single-core ProcMem is about 320 and 'min' is in the 280ies, in other words typical AMD Zen performance, be it Epyc or (12+ cores) Ryzen. And in fact the AES and RSA test numbers quite closely match what I see on my Ryzen 4570 desktop system. I'm a happy user with that VM's processor and memory performance!

Now on to the disk:

Happy again, what a nice disk! Over 7000 IOPS and almost 30 MB/s (4k, 4 threads) and of course much higher speeds at larger read/write sizes (64K, 1 MB), really nice, not many VPS offer that kind of performance and reliably and consistently so (low spread).

And it repeats again with connectivity. Really nice, few failures, quite fast. USA, LA about 70 Mb/s, NYC about 125 Mb/s, the big european targets all in the multiple hundred Mb/s and with very decent latency. About the only weaker part is Asia/Oceania connectivity; not that it's poor, it isn't but compared to the otherwise really great network it feels a bit slow, but hey, still about 50 Mb/s to Singapore is a result that many european providers do not achieve.

TL;DR / Verdict: I love that VPS, I really do. Mostly I love it because it's "well rounded", every major part is really good - and that's not easily achieved; many providers have products that are good in one field or in two but there almost invariably is a weak spot, maybe a not so great network, maybe slow support, etc - but not with this one. With this VM everything is in the top quarter, not the best in this or that area but very good in every area.

If there seems to be a weak spot it must be IncogNet's prices; they (usually) are not cheap - but you get some valuable extra: privacy, credible privacy (and I'm certainly not generously spreading good marks in that field, after all IT security is my professional field).
I personally didn't, but if you really want you can register anonymously (some one-time email will do) and pay anonymously as well. Plus they don't care about DMCA.

I'm not sure I would recommend IncogNet in the low-end segment - unless they run a promo, BF, or the like - but only due to 1 factor, price. If you can get a promo or BF or the like IncogNet system though, you definitely should. My experiences with them were consistently good and they don't just blabla about privacy, they really mean it and back it up with facts and features.

Highly recommended - if low price isn't your main concern.

Thanked by 3MannDude ralf Rich

Comments

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    Having a recommendation if approval / positive review from @jsg is a very nice compliment.

    Way to go @MannDude

    Thanked by 2MannDude jsg
  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran
    edited November 2021

    Thanks for the review and for your patience for the initial hiccups. Most of it is my fault for add/duplicating products in WHMCS when tired (the provisioning of the wrong package). Even after double checking everything, I had an issue afterwards with the large (12GB+ plans) for one product group. It's easy to get your eyes crossed when staring at a screen too long, ha!

    Glad you're happy with it though!

    Regarding Black Friday, we're participating in the LET Flash Black Friday Deals so some may be able to find a 50% off all available VPS plans coupon in there somewhere, sometime. ;)

    Also, we're working on expanding to Dallas, Texas! Shared hosting is coming to Dallas first, and VPS later once we get some IPs squared away. I know we're not the cheapest provider in the market but having less, higher paying customer (versus more, lower paying) helps us manage things easier. Also secured some hardware that will be used for US and EU based off site backups. Slowly but surely building what I'm trying to do.

    Thanked by 2jsg ralf
  • AndrewsAndrews Member
    edited November 2021

    who has time to write/read all these millions of lines of text at BF???

    only one small reminder about this big yellow thing above:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/173716/jsg-the-server-review-king-can-you-trust-him-is-yabs-misleading-you/

    Thanked by 1adly
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @MannDude said:
    Thanks for the review and for your patience for the initial hiccups. Most of it is my fault for add/duplicating products in WHMCS when tired (the provisioning of the wrong package). Even after double checking everything, I had an issue afterwards with the large (12GB+ plans) for one product group. It's easy to get your eyes crossed when staring at a screen too long, ha!

    Glad you're happy with it though!

    Regarding Black Friday, we're participating in the LET Flash Black Friday Deals so some may be able to find a 50% off all available VPS plans coupon in there somewhere, sometime. ;)

    Also, we're working on expanding to Dallas, Texas! Shared hosting is coming to Dallas first, and VPS later once we get some IPs squared away. I know we're not the cheapest provider in the market but having less, higher paying customer (versus more, lower paying) helps us manage things easier. Also secured some hardware that will be used for US and EU based off site backups. Slowly but surely building what I'm trying to do.

    Well, you invited me to benchmark your VPS. But frankly, I hadn't planned to make a full review but rather to just run a private benchmark for myself. But I soon found that my little VM was surprisingly good. So I decided to continue my benchmark and about when I felt I was done I was reminded that BF is just around the corner and I decided to let others know how good both your product/VPS and your support (and dedication to making IncogNet into a success in what I consider the right way) is by publishing my review.

    But there's a but: Why aren't you in the datacenter kitchen cooking a nice BF deal for us? g

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    @jsg said: But there's a but: Why aren't you in the datacenter kitchen cooking a nice BF deal for us?

    Honestly? Right now we have limited capacity to accommodate a lot of new orders, a low desire to compete on price, and I've just been trying to hook up existing customers with a little something extra when requested. Sales through our main site at regular prices have been pretty good, enough that I haven't felt the need to post a LET / WHT offer in a while (though that's a bad business practice, I should probably post religiously on a schedule, always, regardless if website sales are up/down/whatever).

    We've got a limited 50% off coupon as part of the LET Black Friday flash deals, not sure when it'll go live, but it's limited to just 10 uses but is acceptable with all payment types instead of just crypto like some of our previous deals.

    We owe a lot to LET since it's a pretty valuable resource but really have no desire to sell things at a loss to try to compete with the big players on Black Friday. Maybe in future years we can setup a spare node once a year for some crazy deals but we hope the 50% off coupon, when it goes live, will give some folks an opportunity to try us out who may have previously been put off by the higher price. There are certainly going to be cheaper, crazier, and more wild Black Friday deals from other providers and I'm sure a lot of the services are going to be more than acceptable for most as well.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @MannDude said:

    @jsg said: But there's a but: Why aren't you in the datacenter kitchen cooking a nice BF deal for us?

    Honestly? Right now we have limited capacity to accommodate a lot of new orders, a low desire to compete on price, and I've just been trying to hook up existing customers with a little something extra when requested. Sales through our main site at regular prices have been pretty good, enough that I haven't felt the need to post a LET / WHT offer in a while (though that's a bad business practice, I should probably post religiously on a schedule, always, regardless if website sales are up/down/whatever).

    We've got a limited 50% off coupon as part of the LET Black Friday flash deals, not sure when it'll go live, but it's limited to just 10 uses but is acceptable with all payment types instead of just crypto like some of our previous deals.

    We owe a lot to LET since it's a pretty valuable resource but really have no desire to sell things at a loss to try to compete with the big players on Black Friday. Maybe in future years we can setup a spare node once a year for some crazy deals but we hope the 50% off coupon, when it goes live, will give some folks an opportunity to try us out who may have previously been put off by the higher price. There are certainly going to be cheaper, crazier, and more wild Black Friday deals from other providers and I'm sure a lot of the services are going to be more than acceptable for most as well.

    Yay, 50% off for 10 LET users sounds great! Be sure to put it in the BF thread!

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