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Nekki

@default said:

@Nekki said:
Because the dedi is where the magic happens. VPS is just for backup. No point having a backup server without anything to backup to it.

I am more a fan of VPS. Dedicated is nice, but I don't need it that much, unless it's some SBC server. Many times I found myself OK with just a VPS.

I often need to kick the living shit out of my cores and I want yo be able to do it with impunity and not worry about being a bad neighbour. I also have some trust issues.

Mr_Tom

@Nekki said: dedi is where the magic happens

I've got a dedi with 4x2tb which would give you 6tb with RAID5 (I better prepared for the lynching for suggesting RAID5 these days I know) but unfortunately it's sat in my garage not a DC.

@1nf said: Hey, how fat is the port on these?

1gbps (shared)

drivex

I‘m missing terrahost dedis

1nf

@Nekki said:

@default said:

@Nekki said:
Because the dedi is where the magic happens. VPS is just for backup. No point having a backup server without anything to backup to it.

I am more a fan of VPS. Dedicated is nice, but I don't need it that much, unless it's some SBC server. Many times I found myself OK with just a VPS.

I often need to kick the living shit out of my cores and I want yo be able to do it with impunity and not worry about being a bad neighbour. I also have some trust issues.

You don't trust me? I feel betrayed.

ehab

where is @letbox ?

Nekki

@Mr_Tom said: I've got a dedi with 4x2tb which would give you 6tb with RAID5 (I better prepared for the lynching for suggesting RAID5 these days I know) but unfortunately it's sat in my garage not a DC.

RAID 5 is fine, it gives you a fighting chance of recovery at least, better than going balls-to-the-wall with RAID0. I've always got a backup elsewhere the important stuff anyway.

Don't worry about garage hosting, BuyVM used to host out of a basement and no-one noticed.

Nekki

@1nf said:

@Nekki said:

@default said:

@Nekki said:
Because the dedi is where the magic happens. VPS is just for backup. No point having a backup server without anything to backup to it.

I am more a fan of VPS. Dedicated is nice, but I don't need it that much, unless it's some SBC server. Many times I found myself OK with just a VPS.

I often need to kick the living shit out of my cores and I want yo be able to do it with impunity and not worry about being a bad neighbour. I also have some trust issues.

You don't trust me? I feel betrayed.

I don't trust anyone, don't take it personally.

Mr_Tom

@Nekki said: Don't worry about garage hosting

It's not so much the location but the 60/20mbps line that I think people would soon notice lol.

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@PulsedMedia said:

@Hayashima said:

@PulsedMedia said:

@tjn said:

@MatthewLeigh said:
Been waiting for some good deals. Not major deals though. But non have come up yet. There has been some great storage dedis but not within my price range.

I'm also looking for storage Dedi's. Have you seen/found anything other than, OneProvider, OVH, and Terrahost?

OK OK We will bite since it's LET and BF!
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Is 20TB(or similar) disk doable?

Not at that € per TB rate.

How much it would be, I am very interested. Thank you!

Nekki

@Mr_Tom said: It's not so much the location but the 60/20mbps line that I think people would soon notice lol.

Fair play.

Jord

I'll be saying good by to 80/20 soon moving over to 1000/220 can't wait.

Mr_Tom

Yeah I've tried uploading ~6tb in one "hit" to sync some things and it's painful.

Nekki

@Jord said: I'll be saying good by to 80/20 soon moving over to 1000/220 can't wait.

Virgin or someone better?

Mr_Tom

@Jord said: 1000/220

1gbps where you are? Your copper aint gunna like that

Jord

@Nekki said:

@Jord said: I'll be saying good by to 80/20 soon moving over to 1000/220 can't wait.

Virgin or someone better?

OR fibre so none of that shitty Virgin crap.

MeAtExampleDotCom

@default said:

@Nekki said:

@PulsedMedia said: If they provide dedi with failing drives cannot you ask for refund or replacement of server/drives?

They won't give you the time of day until they fail, and to be fair, they might have a point, it might be years before the drives actually die, but I don't want that gamble.

You just gamble until next Black Friday. It's how it works.

The Hetzner auction things aren't BF deals. The drives may be old and well used (quick check on mine: power on time of 5.3Y, 5.2Y, 2.6Y, no signs of health concerns other than age, I've had the machine ~2Y).

Many times even RAID does not help.

Yep. Using soft R1 on there, but the important stuff (backups) is also held on a second location too in case I get a two-drive-fail, whole-machine-dead, or DC-up-in-smoke situation the rest is replaceable (a couple of VMs running things, which are themselves backed up in two elsewheres).

Jord

@Mr_Tom said:

@Jord said: 1000/220

1gbps where you are? Your copper aint gunna like that

No it ain't, need some glass

PulsedMedia

@Nekki said: They'll replace them when they fail sure, but not before. Not much use to me.

If they are working drives, what is the issue then? Surely if there are no errors, there is no issue.

I am curious, because we keep the tolerance generally at: SMART errors, are high number of reallocated/unrecoverable offline sectors.

That criteria has served us quite well, and we've never heard of a complaint. Then again, we generally also test all drives extensively between provisionings.

suyadi92

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Nekki

@PulsedMedia said: If they are working drives, what is the issue then? Surely if there are no errors, there is no issue.

No there are errors, but the drive hasn't actually failed yet.

PulsedMedia

@Nekki said: They won't give you the time of day until they fail, and to be fair, they might have a point, it might be years before the drives actually die, but I don't want that gamble.

Sounds to me like you are going for SMART criteria which is not exactly indicative of pending failure? Backups are for this reason, it is extremely difficult to predict drive failures. I was just yesterday refreshing my memory of this doing some maths on the subject (failure rate of 4xHDD RAID0 vs 12xHDD RAID5) and re-read Google's research paper of how they as well failed to predict failures.

nordmann

@bubblefish said: Why are so >many people interested in many TB of storage on a server? I mean sure 1-2 Tb is nice, but why 20 or more?

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Mr_Tom

@Nekki said: No there are errors, but the drive hasn't actually failed yet.

I've got that on a Hetzner box. The drives hit just over 78k hours and reset back to 0 which makes it even worse for trying to get replacement lol. They still work though.

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@Mr_Tom come on. $12/year. Let's make it happen. We talked about it on IRC.

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out of my budget

Mr_Tom

And like I said on IRC, not likely to happen.