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again literally making things up that nobody ever said, here is my exact words:
if you are too stupid to understand a warning about future web and open source community that is your problem and stop lying about these threads
anyone who defends a private corporation spreading fake propaganda benchmarks trying to brainwash Wordpress newbies should not be trusted YES THAT MEANS YOU
you're shilling Litespeed links on LET forum already: https://archive.md/FtVSR
every fucking time!!
many people like @Wicked @Tony40 @zenks @sheratan already understand my warning, stop lying
where is your IP address probably in Beijing China, keep trying shill
Nice out of context screenshot, just me trolling someone who wants litespeed "for more cheepest price".
Time to take your meds.
What are your thoughts on Caddy?
I've been meaning to take a dive into it.
Not sure what all the Litespeed/OLS hate is about. Litespeed web server doesn't exist in a vacuum.
The open source argument doesn't make sense
I suggest folks do their own comparison testing of web servers for their own needs and decide. Litespeed 5.4+ is faster than Nginx from my tests. Litespeed 5.4+ is different to Litespeed versions <=5.3 from my tests. And even discussed my opinions and links to my older benchmarks on my forums at https://community.centminmod.com/threads/is-lsapi-litespeed-faster-than-php-fpm-nginx-etc-or-not.19153/. FYI, long term plans for Centmin Mod will be to integrate Litespeed/OpenLiteSpeed eventually.
Easy to use but doesn't scale and perform as well as Nginx or Litespeed/OLS from my old tests https://community.centminmod.com/tags/caddy/. AFAIK, Caddy still suffers from a larger drop in performance as you add more HTTP response headers i.e. HSTS/CORS/CSP & other security headers to requests compared to Nginx or Litespeed/OLS. Make sure to test for that when using Caddy.
Though these days for performance, the backend web server's importance has lessened, when you throw a properly configured Cloudflare setup in front of the webserver. But webserver still matters for cache miss/non-cacheable requests traffic.
End of the day, use whatever webserver you're comfortable and familiar with and keep in mind using the right tool for the right job.
I like Caddy. It's easy to setup and I like the Caddyfile system. I mainly use it for reverse proxy's and it's great for that.
Caddy is open source and easy for users so of course that is a good project
however using Go language and can't integrate with other software really it is mostly a standalone project for people who want easy servers with Lets Encrypt
your entire project that's relying on open source projects
omg another Litespeed benchmark.... that link does not have any benchmark provided and the thread actually says that you did not provide the data you mention
did LS $$$ get to you already? they will pay you for premium license on your project I guess lol
AGREE but do not SHILL for private corporations sharing fake brainwashing benchmarks
if Litespeed is not lying and spamming shit so FOSS web will not care at all
Very unstable. Stick with nginx.
I use whatever is useful for my own sites and client's sites in Centmin Mod regardless if it's open source or not. From memory, I've been using Litespeed for over 12+ years now in both standalone non-cPanel or cPanel installs even prior to creation of my own Centmin Mod stack so I do have alot of experience using Litespeed. Including writing my own shell script auto installers for Litespeed and Openlitespeed servers with own vhost auto creator routines.
My comments in my linked forum thread are based on experience - 12+ yrs using Litespeed & 10yrs using Nginx and benchmarking and using them the real world for high traffic websites and working with some of the largest Web discussion forum community sites on the internet.
Read my link again I post benchmarks linked to WHT thread post or you can read them at
And if you're so convinced Litespeed is lying about performance, why not provide you own benchmarks to prove otherwise? Granted you probably need very high concurrent traffic loads to really see the difference between Litespeed and a properly optimized and built Nginx server as well. Most folks who say they don't see a big enough difference between Litespeed and Nginx are testing at concurrent traffic levels that are way too low to differentiate them. Again comes back to my previous post, use the right tool for the right job. If you're concurrent traffic loads are low, then you may not need Litespeed or even Nginx and can do with Apache even!
I'd like to know what experience you have with these webservers we're discussing that allow you to argue your position. It would give credibility to your argument too.
No one here is convincing you not to use an open source webserver but you're trying to convince us anyone who is Pro-Litespeed are shills and liars.
Nothing wrong with Litespeed IMO, nor Nginx. I use both.
I have nothing against Litespeed it self and if somebody likes it more then Nginx or Apache be my guest.
But don't ask/demand a Opensource project to change over 30% of their "own" code so you can use the webserver you like without investing 0 dollar in that project... Developing any control panel takes a lot of time and if a few users are willing to give their time to a open source project they like to support don't ask them to change over their code because you want to use a different web server. If you don't like the software they use feel free to fork the project make the changes you want and share your result under a different name and be my guess.
ahh you sound exactly same as Litespeed employees already sad
are you going to pretend that you did not see the fake benchmarks on Reddit that you already commented last time defending their lies?
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/f06vse/litespeed_servers_seem_like_a_marketing_scam_are/
they disabled FastCGI cache in NGINX to make performance slower and then also lied pretending that benchmark website is from others but actually owned by Litespeed employees
before you seems always honest but now seems you are just getting ready to make a business partnership with Litespeed so you refuse to admit their scams...
Centmin Mod also to the LS affiliate gang, another open source project that's selling out ?
exactly correct
if you check all Google results you can see that Litespeed shills are doing that every day spamming these comments around the web and copy paste the fake benchmarks from Reddit to many blogs
FOSS warriors are fighting back against their SEO spam now
some of LET guys understand, and some guys too ignorant about what is happening
Please re-read my comments at https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/f06vse/comment/fh7wgy9/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 PHP-FPM fastcgi_cache isn't even the fastest configuration option on Nginx/PHP-FPM side you can have for Wordpress full HTML caching from my posted benchmarks https://github.com/centminmod/http2benchmark/tree/extended-tests/examples
It's a lot closer but still still Litespeed 5.4+ is faster - see
coachbloggzipresults below.From benchmarks https://github.com/centminmod/http2benchmark/tree/extended-tests/examples listed at take the results for https://github.com/centminmod/http2benchmark/blob/extended-tests/examples/ecdsa-http2benchmark-h2load-lsws-5.4.1-nginx-1.16.1-run1.md look at the coach Wordpress blog pre-gzip compressed config performance for my configured Nginx/PHP-FPM with full page HTML caching that is actually faster than PHP-FPM fastcgi_caching.
You still haven't answered these questions - now have quoted below, stop deflecting from the questions I asked and contribute to the discussion at hand.
If you don't like the unfair testing /benchmarks shared by Litespeed folks, do your own. If you don't trust other folks' benchmarks, then do your own benchmarks and provide the proof for your argument. No one here including I can provide proof that Litespeed is faster than Nginx if you don't believe the tests or the results. So do your own tests and provide the proof!
That's why I forked their tests and added my own to see how much closer Nginx is to Litespeed for myself and added my own test parameters to forked version at https://github.com/centminmod/http2benchmark/tree/extended-tests as Litespeed folks did tests without the fastest Nginx Wordpress configuration out there which is Cache Enabler wordpress plugin + Autoptimize wordpress plugin + Autoptimize Gzip companion plugin setup for full page static html caching with pre-compressed gzipped static assets for html, css and js which can leverage nginx gzip_static directive.
See
coachbloggzipresults posted above. Or excerpt belowLitespeed didn't test other SSL certificate/cipher configurations, so I added that to my forked benchmarks testing ECDSA 256bit SSL certificate and cipher configurations other than RSA 2048bit SSL certificate defaults. Litespeed tests didn't show HTTP/2 header compression from HTTP/2 HPACK encoding, so I added that to my forked version too.
@eva2000 wtf are you going on about
the fact you can't respond with simple 1-2 sentence is obvious, only copy paste more and more links to your website and data that is not related here...
just say sorry and stop defending Litespeed lying to everyone, it's much easier
^ agreed
omg not this cunt again
I dunno wtf happened but someone decided to unban him. Probably easier than dealing with his numerous PMS tickets begging to come back and abusing the mods who banned him.
fuck this motherfucker already fucking waste of bandwidth
Data/transfer != bandwidth
The fact that you can't see or comprehend the relevance of my last 2 reply posts and information is very telling and obvious why your deflecting from my questions of your experiences or lack of with ALL the web servers discussed and your lack test proof that qualify you to make the claims that Litespeed is lying about its performance compared to Nginx.
If you only have experience with Nginx and Apache and little or none with Litespeed, your claims against Litespeed's performance benefits will not hold much weight regardless of how many unsubstantiated claims and posts/threads you make on the internet. Especially, without you actually providing proof from your own testing if you don't believe anyone elses results or proof.
You can easily shut up most of your critics here and elsewhere. Just provide the performance testing proof that Litespeed is lying about its performance relative to Nginx and Apache and show that Litespeed is not faster.
With the amount of time and effort you have put in making unsubstantiated claims of Litespeed performance lies, you could of done your own tests several times over to back up your argument already! It wouldn't cost much to test as Litespeed has free 15 day trial and hourly billed VPS and dedicated servers exist to keep costs relatively low. Litespeed can be installed standalone and does not need cPanel or Plesk license.
It's okay to admit you don't have the experience with Litespeed to make your claims. You can easily rectify that by testing and learning and using Litespeed and then do the tests to prove your argument.
That's what I do. Before Litespeed 5.4, my Litespeed vs Centmin Mod Nginx tests had Nginx neck and neck with Litespeed for static file serving so when Litespeed posted benchmarks of Litespeed 5.4+ having a more substantial lead, I modified their test scripts to test for myself to see. And added coach blog pre-gzip compress test to see if their claims were true and they were notably Nginx results were closer for coach blog pre-gzip tests.
Why would you persist in arguing your position and not give yourself the best possibility in winning your argument by providing proof of Litespeed's performance lies?
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@brandort Dont come here with that crap! You are being disrespectful! I will give you a time out!
ahaha what have you done? Now he will call LET litespeed shill.
He'll find more meaningful discussions on WHT.