Hostsolutions's core router has completely fried

Levi

@cociu said:

debaser said: Err? This doesn't look like AS5588 but AS6830 to me.

Do not beleve all shit what people is post here . We are not single homed and your service is my proof. We have 5 different providers here right now and working to add 2 more in the verry near future

You can deny all shit by simply posting appropriate asn's for check.

techhelper1

@poisson said:

@techhelper1 said:
A Juniper router suddenly died, right...

Your point being? Juniper routers never die?

Precisely.

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@dfroe said:

@cociu said: In the past we had use cisco 6500 model (a verry old one) so i have decided to invert in new stuff

Oh no. Every time a Cisco 6500 gets replaced by something else, things start to get worse.
Those good old catalysts are old and energy inefficient. But they usually just work for decades.

Unfortunately, I have to agree here.

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randvegeta said: I swear, Junipers must be the most unreliable enterprise routers around. whats the point in spending so much money on enterprise gear when they dont offer any semblance of reliability relatice to commodity gear.

They actually are reliable, if they're setup in the same redundancy as a chassis switch, which seems no one wants to do, because $$$.

Ive got DIY routers in production handling millions of pps in some locations, basically cost nothing, and setup with redundancy in mind. A juniper setup of equivalent capacity would cost me ~50K+.

Sounds like you haven't checked eBay.

I would be curious to know the hardware you have in production that can move 100Gbits at small packet sizes, line rate.

dfroe

@LTniger said:

@cociu said:
Do not beleve all shit what people is post here . We are not single homed and your service is my proof. We have 5 different providers here right now and working to add 2 more in the verry near future

You can deny all shit by simply posting appropriate asn's for check.

They are definitely not single homed.
Just to get rid of some "fake news".

If a traceroute is fine to prove at least two different paths.

via LibertyGlobal:

HOST:                                    Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  2.|-- core22.fsn1.hetzner.com           0.0%     4    0.4   0.5   0.4   0.5   0.0
  3.|-- core1.fra.hetzner.com             0.0%     4    4.9   8.8   4.9  20.5   7.7
  4.|-- et-0-0-47.cr10-fra2.ip4.gtt.net   0.0%     4    5.2   5.4   5.2   5.9   0.0
  5.|-- ip4.gtt.net                       0.0%     4    5.1   5.3   5.1   5.9   0.0
  6.|-- de-fra02a-rc1-ae-30-0.aorta.net   0.0%     4   38.9  38.8  38.4  39.2   0.0
  7.|-- ro-cj01a-rd3-ae-0-0.aorta.net     0.0%     4   37.7  38.3  37.7  39.2   0.0
  8.|-- ro-bh01a-rd2-ae-1-1797.aorta.net  0.0%     4   37.5  37.8  37.5  38.4   0.0
  9.|-- 89.137.188.198                    0.0%     4   37.9  38.0  37.9  38.1   0.0
 10.|-- 188.213.134.x                     0.0%     4   37.9  38.0  37.9  38.4   0.0

via GTS:

HOST:                                    Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  3.|-- bbr-ob-02.de.kamp.net             0.0%     4    1.1   1.2   1.0   1.3   0.0
  4.|-- bbr-d-01.de.kamp.net              0.0%     4    4.9   4.7   4.7   4.9   0.0
  5.|-- bbr-f-01.de.kamp.net              0.0%     4    4.6   5.1   4.6   6.6   0.6
  6.|-- fra-decix1.gtsce.net              0.0%     4    4.6   7.7   4.4  17.2   6.3
  7.|-- 85.9.52.50                        0.0%     4   33.8  33.7  33.6  33.8   0.0
  8.|-- 212.146.102.238                   0.0%     4   43.5  43.3  43.3  43.5   0.0
  9.|-- 188.213.134.x                     0.0%     4   43.5  43.6  43.4  44.0   0.0

Furthermore you can easily use lg.he.net to query BGP routing for 188.213.134.0/24 and see it is announced from AS44220 via AS6830 and AS5588.

core1.fra1.he.net> show ip bgp routes detail 188.213.134.0/24 
  Number of BGP Routes matching display condition : 8
[...]
1       Prefix: 188.213.134.0/24, [...]
         AS_PATH: 6830 44220 44220 44220
[...]
5       Prefix: 188.213.134.0/24, [...]
         AS_PATH: 5588 44220 44220 44220 44220 44220 44220
[...]

jsg

@cociu said:
... We are 8 persons working fisical here ...

Btw, that means that HostSolutions actually is a bigger operation than 80% or so of all the providers here.

I personally only saw/see two problems with you

• support - your support was extremely poor. But it seems that you have indeed gotten a lot better and are on a good way.
• no testing - you seem to make a lot of "experiments" on the production floor. That's very, very bad. My advice: Always extensively test any products and planned changes in a lab setting in advance before pushing it into production.

But generally speaking I'm a happy (small) customer of HostSolutions and now with @MikePT added to your support team I can't complain about support. Everything is fine - minus the recent network outage, but hey, sh_t happens to everyone.

yoursunny

I don't buy from this provider.

• Typos everywhere in the offers.
• OpenVZ6 as of two months ago.
• I hear there's no way to reinstall OS.

aveline

@dfroe @cociu @debaser

Sorry, I only checked bgp.he.net and obviously AS44220 has two upstreams according to global BGP table :-)

AS5588 and AS6830.

The point is that high-end and expensive routers isn't necessary. There are many content networks (e.g. Fastly, Spotify, G-core) who is using switch or switch-router and it works quite fine. You can even use two 1U switches to support multiple 100G network, which is much cheaper than the Juniper MX series.

cybertech

@yoursunny said:
I don't buy from this provider.

• Typos everywhere in the offers.
• OpenVZ6 as of two months ago.
• I hear there's no way to reinstall OS.

He now sells KVM only I think, and less issues. Not zero but less

MikePT

@jsg said:

@cociu said:
... We are 8 persons working fisical here ...

Btw, that means that HostSolutions actually is a bigger operation than 80% or so of all the providers here.

I personally only saw/see two problems with you

• support - your support was extremely poor. But it seems that you have indeed gotten a lot better and are on a good way.
• no testing - you seem to make a lot of "experiments" on the production floor. That's very, very bad. My advice: Always extensively test any products and planned changes in a lab setting in advance before pushing it into production.

But generally speaking I'm a happy (small) customer of HostSolutions and now with @MikePT added to your support team I can't complain about support. Everything is fine - minus the recent network outage, but hey, sh_t happens to everyone.

Thank you for the kind words!
Definitely growing and I can assure that Marius has great plans!

a-super-random-user

MikePT said: Thank you for the kind words!

Definitely growing and I can assure that Marius has great plans!

With you onboard, I believe there will be ample supply of sisters