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  • Thanks @mcmyhost
    Added few Europe test files, here's from my Dedibox LT.

    CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31240 @ 3.30GHz
    Number of cores : 8
    CPU frequency :  3292.485 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 20480 MB
    Total amount of swap : 3072 MB
    System uptime :   16:02,
    
    ===== NORTH AMERICA =====
    
    Download from Cachefly: 61.4MB/s
    Download speed from OVH(BHS), Canada: 3.32MB/s
    Download speed from Datashack/WSI, Kansas City: 6.45MB/s
    Download speed from Continuum (GetDedi), Chicago, IL: 4.76MB/s
    Download speed from Ubiquity Servers, Seattle WA: 7.12MB/s
    Download speed from Ubiquity Servers, Los Angeles, CA: 9.05MB/s
    Download speed from Ubiquity, Pheonix, AZ: 8.60MB/s
    Download speed from Ubiquity Servers, Dallas, TX: 3.67MB/s
    Download speed from Ubiquity Servers, Atlanta, GA: 9.96MB/s
    Download speed from TMS, Dallas, TX: 9.65MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 11.4MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 8.68MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 8.42MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 15.9MB/s
    
    ========= EUROPE ========
    
    Download speed from Linode, London, UK: 36.3MB/s
    Download speed from Rapidswitch, UK: 15.2MB/s
    Download speed from Serverius, NL: 73.5MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, NL: 58.0MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 73.2MB/s
    Download from OVH (RBX), France: 653KB/s
    Download speed from Prometeus, IT: 68.3MB/s
    Download speed from Private Layer, Switzerland: 10.9MB/s
    Download speed from Hetzner, Germany: 21.3MB/s
    
    ========== ASIA =========
    
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 5.11MB/s
    Download speed from Leapswitch, Pune, India: 9.98MB/s
    Download speed from HKcolocation, Hong Kong : 4.42MB/s
    
    
    Ping Test
    
    Pinging google.com time=8.55
    Pinging Microsoft
    Pinging OVH time=1.25
    Pinging Hetzner time=27.0
    I/O speed :  218 MB/s
    
  • earlearl Member
    edited November 2013

    Oddly enough the download, thought it was a 200Mbps?

     wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    --2013-11-08 06:59:11--  http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.test'
    
    100%[=======================================================================>] 104,857,600 72.2M/s   in 1.4s
    
    2013-11-08 06:59:12 (72.2 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]
    

    100mb test file from Dedibox SC DC3 to

    1Gbps port

    Ramnode (9.33 MB/s) WII (8.71 MB/s) Fliphost (7.19 MB/s)

    100Mbps port

    OVH France (11.2 MB/s) OVH BHS (9.74 MB/s) Shardhost (4.91 MB/s) Frontrangehosting (2.15 MB/s) volumedrive (2.41 MB/s)

  • AutoSnipe said: If ya wanna try from an e3 try http://fr.evoburst.com

    I get 4.7MB/S From home out of a total possible 16MB/S

  • earl said: Oddly enough the download, thought it was a 200Mbps?

    Gigaport port. But 150/200 guaranteed

    Thanked by 1earl
  • Getting 704 Mbits/sec inbound, 354 Mbits/sec outbound on my "Dedibox® Classic + Gen2" from/to my DotVPS kvm in Maidenhead so it doesn't seem to be applied retroactively at least.

    Thanked by 1DeletedUser
  • It is only possible for a provider to guarantee that there will be enough capacity inside their network and that there will be enough capacity to their upstreams. They can't guarantee anything after the traffic hits a third party network. And they can't guarantee that any single destination will get 300 (or whatever) Mbps transfer speed on a single tcp connection.

  • @TarZZ92 said:
    Gigaport port. But 150/200 guaranteed

    It's nice of them to do that I thought they would have limit the speed to 200Mpbs.. but I guess it's on best available..

    With OVH it's a 1Gbps port but they limit speed to 100Mbps, don't think I've gotten anything over that.

  • BrianHarrisonBrianHarrison Member, Patron Provider

    @Zigara said:
    I have no issues ripping 18 M/s single connection from the cheapest model (10EUR) from the US. Multiple connections I can hit 30+ MB/s.

    Perhaps it's only future orders that they're throttling more severely.

  • DomainBopDomainBop Member
    edited November 2013

    @maounique said OVH is much bigger and has tons of traffic available.

    Wrong! Online.net's parent company Iliad ($3.1 billion annual revenues) is much bigger than OVH both in terms of revenue and their network in France. Online.net uses their sister company ISP Free.fr's network http://bgp.he.net/AS12322. A clue to the size of Online.net/Free's network capacity is the number of IPs originated 11 million vs only 1 million for OVH. Another clue is the traffic levels shown by peeringdb: Free SAS 1 Tbps+ vs OVH's 500-1000 Gbps.

    tl;dr the much bigger Online.net/Free SAS has more traffic available to it than OVH has but they're throttling cheap server users.

  • strexstrex Member
    edited November 2013

    DomainBop said: Online.net uses their sister company ISP Free.fr's network http://bgp.he.net/AS12322.

    This was true a few months ago.
    Now they are using their own AS12876.
    http://bgp.he.net/AS12876

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @DomainBop said:
    tl;dr the much bigger Online.net/Free SAS has more traffic available to it than OVH has but they're throttling cheap server users.

    Didnt know that, thanks. However online.net free.fr might be based more on france/eu peering agreements, it might be that international lines are not so big but only guessing here.
    If they were sitting on tons of traffic they would not start reducing available bw unless they detected heavy abuse and they are not prepared to cope with it for now and try to limit the damages.

  • The SC line has been reduced to 150mbps as well now :/

  • @DigitalDuke said:
    The SC line has been reduced to 150mbps as well now :/

    Yup, you're right..Guess that's what happens when you post things on LET.

    It may be coincidence but makes you wonder..

  • DomainBopDomainBop Member
    edited November 2013

    If they were sitting on tons of traffic they would not start reducing available bw unless they detected heavy abuse

    I think the throttling has more to do with cutting costs to increase their profit margins and make their stockholders happy than it does with abuse.

    related: Bloomberg had an article last week on Iliad/Free/Online.net's CEO Xavier Niel...his net worth is $8.1 billion. FYI, he got his start in business offering sex chat services on Minitel.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-29/iliad-s-niel-harnesses-billionaire-heft-to-muscle-into-m-a-deals.html

    Thanked by 1earl
  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Haha, I have a minitel terminal :) I also know quite a few people here that started with offering video chat with ifriends and camcontacts some 10 years ago.

  • blergh_blergh_ Member
    edited November 2013
    ===== NORTH AMERICA =====
    Download from Cachefly: 51,7MB/s
    Download speed from OVH(BHS), Canada: 4,82MB/s
    Download speed from Datashack/WSI, Kansas City: 14,9MB/s
    Download speed from TMS, Dallas, TX: 9,30MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 16,8MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 12,5MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 12,0MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 23,1MB/s
    Download speed from BurstNET, Scranton, PA: 20,1MB/s
    Download speed from BurstNET, Los Angeles, CA: 4,57MB/s
    Download speed from BurstNET, Miami, FL: 10,1MB/s
    Download speed from BurstNET, Dallas, TX: 10,4MB/s
    Download speed from WANsecurity, San Francisco, CA: 24,9KB/s
    Download speed from WANsecurity, Los Angeles, CA: 12,7MB/s
    Download speed from WANsecurity, Kansas City, Missouri: 33,2MB/s
    
    Download speed from Volumedrive, Northern, PA: 63,7KB/s
    Download speed from Turnkey Internet, New York Tech Valley (??): 1,89MB/s
    Download speed from PhotonVPS, Los Angeles, CA: 9,00MB/s
    Download speed from Fiberhub, Los Vegas, Nevada: 50,2KB/s
    Download speed from ServerComplete, Jacksonville, Florida: 1010KB/s
    Download speed from IOFlood, Phoenix, AZ: 7,00MB/s
    Download speed from Dacentec, Lenoir, NC: 20,2MB/s
    
    ========= EUROPE ========
    
    Download speed from Linode, London, UK: 4,21MB/s
    Download speed from Rapidswitch, UK: 10,6MB/s
    Download speed from Serverius, NL: 61,5MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, NL: 53,0MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 58,8MB/s
    Download from OVH (RBX), France: 3,80MB/s
    Download speed from Hetzner, Germany: 26,9MB/s
    
    ========== ASIA =========
    
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 7,06MB/s
    Download speed from WANsecurity, Tokyo, JP: 670MB/s
    Download speed from Leapswitch, Pune, India: 1,10MB/s
    Download speed from HKcolocation, Hong Kong : 3,31MB/s
    
    
    Ping Test
    
    Pinging google.com time=8.30
    Pinging Microsoft
    Pinging OVH time=1.58
    Pinging Hetzner time=26.6
    I/O speed :  138 MB/s
    
  • mcmyhostmcmyhost Member
    edited November 2013

    @blergh_ said:

    You can use the

    pre

    tags to make it much more formatted.

  • Dedibox Classic:

    CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz
    Number of cores : 4
    CPU frequency :  3092.740 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 7951 MB
    Total amount of swap : 1022 MB
    System uptime :   12:15,
    Download speed from CacheFly: 78.0MB/s
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 9.92MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 11.7MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 5.98MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, NL:
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 67.9MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 5.69MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 10.5MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 10.6MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 18.8MB/s
    I/O speed :  144 MB/s
    

    And a Nano 14.99 Euro:

    CPU model :  VIA Nano processor U2250 (1.6GHz Capable)
    Number of cores : 1
    CPU frequency :  1595.848 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 1980 MB
    Total amount of swap : 975 MB
    System uptime :   8:32,
    Download speed from CacheFly: 40.4MB/s
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 7.46MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 7.18MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 3.24MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, NL:
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 29.6MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 3.12MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 5.57MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 5.34MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 10.1MB/s
    I/O speed :  94.5 MB/s
    
  • @mcmyhost said:
    You can use the

    pre

    tags to make it much more formatted.

    Spanks, sorted it now.

    The speeds from/to this box is shit after about 18:00-20:00 GMT+1 - Prior to that you get great speeds.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    blergh_ said: The speeds from/to this box is shit after about 18:00-20:00 GMT+1 - Prior to that you get great speeds

    This only proves the point they are part of a big ISP, once the ppl are home they offer the traffic tot hem and only allow the excess to go for the dedi business.

    Thanked by 1Mark_R
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Idk if has this todo with this problem but....

    Just get hit by connection issues when we have about 88 Players connected

    and CPU

  • Does online.net allow public trackers on their dedi seedbox

  • @thehray said:
    Does online.net allow public trackers on their dedi seedbox

    They don't offer any seedboxes at all, but i would assume they aren't too happy if you did use it for just that.

  • @blergh_ said:

    I asked them on Twitter whether they allow seedbox and their answer definitely YES.

  • could have looked on their forum, it has been posted many times.. and every answer is somewhat over the lines of why not.. as long as it doesnt cause problems for them

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