Cheapest Colocation in the World

skyhost_ru

Hi guys!

I want to find the cheapest Datacenter in the World .
May be we can make a TOP-10 list.
For example I know DC:
Irkutst, Russia / Tier-II / $100 per rack / $40 per kW
Moscow, Russia / Tier-III / $150 per rack / $100 per kW

What about real good worldwide price?

shallownorthdakota

Cyberbunker is having a blowout sale today.

teamacc

@cociu has cheap space

skyhost_ru

Please attache price with the same parameters as I sent.

Host4Geeks

My Basement.

skyhost_ru

@Host4Geeks said:
My Basement.

No, just TierII+ carrier neutral datacenters.

shallownorthdakota

https://www.datacentermap.com/usa/texas/houston/365nap-communications.html

Give them a call. Ask for Josh. Tell them LET sent ya.

deank

This won't end well.

uptime

@shallownorthdakota said:
https://www.datacentermap.com/usa/texas/houston/365nap-communications.html

Give them a call. Ask for Josh. Tell them LET sent ya.

ah ... just to be clear @skyhost_ru (and anyone else not aware of the Prout scam) that's an (educational) joke

ZotiMediaGroup

@shallownorthdakota said:
Cyberbunker is having a blowout sale today.

They are finally arested: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.de/20190927/germany-cracks-cyber-bunker-hosting-darknet-sites/amp

dfroe

@ZotiMediaGroup said:

@shallownorthdakota said:
Cyberbunker is having a blowout sale today.

They are finally arested:

Glad you found the irony in that comment.

First-Root

@dfroe said:

@ZotiMediaGroup said:

@shallownorthdakota said:
Cyberbunker is having a blowout sale today.

They are finally arested:

Glad you found the irony in that comment.

aiming for provider tag

uptime

@FR_Michael said:
aiming for provider tag

Irony intensifies ...

shallownorthdakota

@uptime said:

@FR_Michael said:
aiming for provider tag

Irony intensifies ...

Ironing intensifies ...

jsg

@skyhost_ru

Besides the fact that cheap colos are usually cheap for a reason, your desired list would be largely worthless.
Irkutsk btw. is 50? 70? ms from Moscow which itself is about 50 ms from Central Europe.

You missed the relevant parameters, like for example

• power density per rack - The cheapest power prices are worth little when you get just 3.5 kW of it per rack. Todays servers are typically in the range of 150W (single low power processors, 32 GB or less memory, single SSD) to 600+W with about 300 W being the average for an average server. Even if packing them losely (2 HU) that's 2 16 Amp lines - and keep in mind that that power must also been taken care of once it's converted to heat.
  Use densely packed Blade servers and you are easily crossing the 10 kW line. You won't find many providers offering that.

• carriers and bandwidth - How many carriers, what spread of carriers (local, international, cheap expensive, etc.) and with how much bandwidth are available at a given DC?

• location - How many hops and ms are major regions like Western, Central, Eastern Europe, and US West and East coast as Central USA away? I won't quarrel over 10 ms. difference or even 20 but once the difference reaches 50 ms I'll be concerned.
• Quality - Some people call a large basement with some 2nd hand cheap racks a colo. I however call that "Tier 0". So, Do they have good 120 cm deep racks available? Real 24/7 hands? Lockers for customer spare parts? Real security? What's the distance to the next significant city, international airport, and rail station?

Well noted I would be very interested in something like serverhunter but for colos or even just a halfway up to date list with at least the major parameters of many colos, but your x $ per kW, y $ per rack game is worthless and not even entertaining.

MrRadic

@skyhost_ru said:
Hi guys!

I want to find the cheapest Datacenter in the World .
May be we can make a TOP-10 list.
For example I know DC:
Irkutst, Russia / Tier-II / $100 per rack / $40 per kW
Moscow, Russia / Tier-III / $150 per rack / $100 per kW

What about real good worldwide price?

Why not just the providers?

skyhost_ru

@jsg said:
@skyhost_ru

Besides the fact that cheap colos are usually cheap for a reason, your desired list would be largely worthless.

Yes, sure. But it's just a good Idea I think, to get list of good prices around World.
May be electricity price in some US states are much lower etc

Irkutsk btw. is 50? 70? ms from Moscow which itself is about 50 ms from Central Europe.

Moscow - Amsterdam 40ms
Moscow - Irkutsk 60ms
Amsterdam - Irkutsk 95 ms (may be MPLS or something else)

You missed the relevant parameters, like for example

• power density per rack - The cheapest power prices are worth little when you get just 3.5 kW of it per rack. Todays servers are typically in the range of 150W (single low power processors, 32 GB or less memory, single SSD) to 600+W with about 300 W being the average for an average server. Even if packing them losely (2 HU) that's 2 16 Amp lines - and keep in mind that that power must also been taken care of once it's converted to heat.
  Use densely packed Blade servers and you are easily crossing the 10 kW line. You won't find many providers offering that.

• carriers and bandwidth - How many carriers, what spread of carriers (local, international, cheap expensive, etc.) and with how much bandwidth are available at a given DC?

• location - How many hops and ms are major regions like Western, Central, Eastern Europe, and US West and East coast as Central USA away? I won't quarrel over 10 ms. difference or even 20 but once the difference reaches 50 ms I'll be concerned.
• Quality - Some people call a large basement with some 2nd hand cheap racks a colo. I however call that "Tier 0". So, Do they have good 120 cm deep racks available? Real 24/7 hands? Lockers for customer spare parts? Real security? What's the distance to the next significant city, international airport, and rail station?

Well noted I would be very interested in something like serverhunter but for colos or even just a halfway up to date list with at least the major parameters of many colos, but your x $ per kW, y $ per rack game is worthless and not even entertaining.

Yes sure, all parameters are important.
I'm just talking about a few basic parameters.

willie

$40/kw (Irkutsk) is craazy, it's around 5 cents per kwh, much less than commercial or residential electricity around here. Installing gear in Irkutsk is probably impractical for most of us though.

jsg

Obviously Europe (-Russia) can not compete with Russia in terms of el. power cost.

But still, many don't know that, prices in Europe are by no means similar. In Germany, for example, the cost of 1 kW is almost 3 times the cost in e.g. Romania which is about double of the cost in Russia.
Btw, The cost in France is about 35% lower than in Germany. When talking about MW that's a MAJOR difference, especially for data centers where el. power cost is a major cost factor anyway.

mrTom

Btw, The cost in France is about 35% lower than in Germany.

which is why some of the largest hosters in Germany moved to France. (eg Plusserver, Host Europe, domainfactory)

aveline

@skyhost_ru said:

@jsg said:
@skyhost_ru

Besides the fact that cheap colos are usually cheap for a reason, your desired list would be largely worthless.

Yes, sure. But it's just a good Idea I think, to get list of good prices around World.
May be electricity price in some US states are much lower etc

Irkutsk btw. is 50? 70? ms from Moscow which itself is about 50 ms from Central Europe.

Moscow - Amsterdam 40ms
Moscow - Irkutsk 60ms
Amsterdam - Irkutsk 95 ms (may be MPLS or something else)

You missed the relevant parameters, like for example

• power density per rack - The cheapest power prices are worth little when you get just 3.5 kW of it per rack. Todays servers are typically in the range of 150W (single low power processors, 32 GB or less memory, single SSD) to 600+W with about 300 W being the average for an average server. Even if packing them losely (2 HU) that's 2 16 Amp lines - and keep in mind that that power must also been taken care of once it's converted to heat.
  Use densely packed Blade servers and you are easily crossing the 10 kW line. You won't find many providers offering that.

• carriers and bandwidth - How many carriers, what spread of carriers (local, international, cheap expensive, etc.) and with how much bandwidth are available at a given DC?

• location - How many hops and ms are major regions like Western, Central, Eastern Europe, and US West and East coast as Central USA away? I won't quarrel over 10 ms. difference or even 20 but once the difference reaches 50 ms I'll be concerned.
• Quality - Some people call a large basement with some 2nd hand cheap racks a colo. I however call that "Tier 0". So, Do they have good 120 cm deep racks available? Real 24/7 hands? Lockers for customer spare parts? Real security? What's the distance to the next significant city, international airport, and rail station?

Well noted I would be very interested in something like serverhunter but for colos or even just a halfway up to date list with at least the major parameters of many colos, but your x $ per kW, y $ per rack game is worthless and not even entertaining.

Yes sure, all parameters are important.
I'm just talking about a few basic parameters.

$150?
More details, please. We're interested :-)

MadRabbit

€80 in Estonia - Wavecom.

sweatbar

@teamacc said:
@cociu has cheap space

Go with him if you do not need tickets to be answered or if you don't need support at all. He is a no reply, don't care type off a guy.

shallownorthdakota

sweatbar said: He is a no reply, don't care type off a guy.

Have you seen his sister collection? He builds their cages out of discarded server racks. Give him a break, dude's a busy guy.

cociu

sweatbar said: Go with him if you do not need tickets to be answered or if you don't need support at all. He is a no reply, don't care type off a guy.

i hope you will never buy from us... in any circumstance. Thanks.

ITLabs

I still have some space left on my DC.

jsg

@cociu said:

sweatbar said: Go with him if you do not need tickets to be answered or if you don't need support at all. He is a no reply, don't care type off a guy.

i hope you will never buy from us... in any circumstance. Thanks.

Why so excited? Based on what I heard it is true that you sometimes don't respond to tickets for days or even weeks.

I think that everybody - incl. yourself - would be better off if you simply brought up your operations to an acceptable level, because I think that you could actually be a good provider.

MicroSerum

In Montreal

0$ per rack, 188 US/250 CAD per KW @ 2N

Tier 3 design, 99% renewable power

Freaking awesome

skyhost_ru

@MicroSerum said:
In Montreal

0$ per rack, 188 US/250 CAD per KW @ 2N

Tier 3 design, 99% renewable power

Freaking awesome

Which DC?

MicroSerum

Which DC?

Root data center, now Compass data centers (aquired)

SpryServers_Tab

@ITLabs said:
I still have some space left on my DC.

How much for a shelf?

Are Christmas lights on the shelf extra?

Also, what kind of security do you have? Do you have the latest attack gators?