Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!


Name.com ( 25 Days Deletion Policy ) , I Just Lost my Domain : Advice Needed
New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.

All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.

Name.com ( 25 Days Deletion Policy ) , I Just Lost my Domain : Advice Needed

HindiHindi Member
edited September 2019 in Help

Hello LET,

How many of you are aware that name.com will give your domain to someone else Just after 25 days of Expiry ?

I Though they and any registrar is bound by ICANN which gives 45 days + 30 days of grace after domain expires.

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-lifecycle-2012-02-25-en

But as per name.com :

For a period of approximately twenty-five (25) days after expiration of the term of domain name registration services, we may provide a procedure by which expired domain name registration services may be renewed. We may, but are not obligated to, offer this process, called the "reactivation period." You assume all risks and all consequences if you wait until close to or after the expiration of the original term of domain name registration services to attempt to renew the domain name registration services.

So.. What are my options now ? Please Advise.

Comments

  • If the domain was important to you, why did you let it expire and not react for 25 days?

  • Honestly not something I think about as I pay my bills on time. If I let it expire it's because I'm letting it go.

  • @angstrom said:
    If the domain was important to you, why did you let it expire and not react for 25 days?

    the email address used was having issues and it was too late when it got fixed.

    @skorous said:
    Honestly not something I think about as I pay my bills on time. If I let it expire it's because I'm letting it go.

    Indeed it was my fault not to renew on time. But Im talking about possible options and legality of 25 days policy by name.com

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran

    @angstrom said:
    If the domain was important to you, why did you let it expire and not react for 25 days?

    True, but some people like a drama. Who cares if you missed your window to extend your domain name? as it’s entire your fault, don’t need to blame someone just yourself! good luck and I hope you learned your lesson.

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    Hindi said: I Though they and any registrar is bound by ICANN which gives 45 days + 30 days of grace after domain expires.

    https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-lifecycle-2012-02-25-en

    Note that that says "typical gTLD", it's an illustration, not necessarily a rule that registrars have to follow. I believe that different TLDs have different timelines for this sort of thing, you'd want to check what specifically the grace period for a .com domain is.

    Thanked by 2uptime sayem314
  • "Some registrar activity post-expiration may not be reflected in the life cycle chart above."

  • @joepie91 said:

    Hindi said: I Though they and any registrar is bound by ICANN which gives 45 days + 30 days of grace after domain expires.

    https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-lifecycle-2012-02-25-en

    Note that that says "typical gTLD", it's an illustration, not necessarily a rule that registrars have to follow. I believe that different TLDs have different timelines for this sort of thing, you'd want to check what specifically the grace period for a .com domain is.

    And even for the same gTLD, registrars may differ on the length of the grace period for that gTLD.

  • @Hindi said: What are my options now ? Please Advise.

    No options, I'm afraid, short of trying to lease that domain again when it becomes available again (if it becomes available again).

    Thanked by 1Hindi
  • True, but some people like a drama. Who cares if you missed your window to extend your domain name? as it’s entire your fault, don’t need to blame someone just yourself! good luck and I hope you learned your lesson.

    thank you for your valuable feedback sir.

  • TheLinuxBugTheLinuxBug Member
    edited September 2019

    I will just say this. I suggest leaving Name.com ASAP, not even related to what you described. My issue was that say you have a bill do, but forgot your password. Instead of immediately clicking forgot, you sit there and for about 4-5 tries you try to remember your password. You fail to recall it, well after this, your accounts now locked for 24 hours. No warning. Also if you call up and want to do a transaction there, they can't help you because you accounts locked for 24 hours. So now your in a position where your service / domain expires in 12 hours and have no way to access your account or pay for 24 hours. You call and ask how to resolve this and they simply tell you, there is no solution, you need to wait 24 hours and then login and pay, hopefully your service won't be fully terminated by then. Good luck!

    That is my experience with them. That very next day I moved every single domain / service I had to Namesilo and haven't looked back.

    my 2 cents.

    Cheers!

  • Sofia_KSofia_K Member
    edited September 2019

    try namecheap, namesilo, epik as alternatives to name.com.
    do read their domain renewal policies though! Many-a-times its specific to certain TLDs/ccTLDs.

  • Nothing can be done. For all important domains and if prices are right, do auto renew or buy for 5-10 years in pork bun or similar. For test/temp domain, you just remind yourself when to renew.

    Especially like godaddy, they will blackmail and demand you for more $$$ cash for renewal you missed after a period. If you missed totally for 1-2 months, they will sell you a few thousands for your simple domain which isn't even popular.

  • You snooze you lose.

    Thanked by 3dosai Sofia_K sayem314
  • Sofia_KSofia_K Member
    edited September 2019

    @Hindi
    There is another protected registration product from godaddy which cost $24/$25 a year (approx) or cheaper at their resellers, and which include one-year 'domain protection' from expiration. So if you forget to renew a domain, or you have some problem with paying through card/paypal, or forget to update expired credit card, etc. in such situation godaddy will "lock/freeze" your domain for 1 year instead of letting it expire/get deleted/suspended. In short they renew domain for you but you'll not be able to use it until you make a fresh renewal payment from your pocket.

    There might be some other registrars who offer similar product.

    This product seems suitable for your $$$$$ money-domain which you never want to loose. You get full 12 months to make a payment for it and avoid expiration/losing domain due to circumstances beyond your control!

  • https://www.name.com/aftermarket
    check your domain there.

    Thanked by 1angstrom
  • donlidonli Member
    edited September 2019

    @Hindi said:

    So.. What are my options now ? Please Advise.

    Options now:
    (1) Get a lawyer and pursue a possibly fruitless action.
    (2) Pay the amount the new owner wants to sell it to you.
    (3) Find another available domain name to use.

    Thanked by 3Falzo ITLabs sayem314
  • asasdasasd Member
    edited September 2019

    @Hindi
    Situation 1: The domain is yours
    If the domain is yours, it is on your name, they can't give your domain to someone else. The domain is still yours until the end of the grace period. In this case, immediately transfer your domain to another, fair registrar.

    "we may provide a procedure by which expired domain name registration services may be renewed. We may, but are not obligated to, offer this process..."
    This only means they have the right to not renew a domain, not to do business with you. They want you to believe your only option is to wait out the grace period and buy it again. But their actual goal is that their domain squatting partner buys it and sells back to you for a high price or use it for advertisement.

    Situation 2: The domain was never yours.
    You signed an agreement https://www.name.com/policies/registration-agreement point 5/c., the ID Protection Service Agreement. https://www.name.com/policies/idp
    "You agree that DPSI may assume complete ownership of the Whois Privacy Domain(s), that the Whois Privacy Domain(s) may be sold to third parties, or that the Whois Privacy Domain(s) may be pointed to IP numbers of DPSI's choosing, and that DPSI may immediately cancel Your Account and all services provided to You."

    Solution:
    Open a domain dispute at ICANN. If you can prove that you used the domain (example you have a cv on it and it was crawled by archive.org, you have private key of past ssl certificate, you still have the same website/service on the same ip it was pointing to), then you can actually get it back.
    Include in your dispute the following screenshot (name.com's current checkout process), and mention name.com's misleading UI, and when you ordered "Whois Privacy - Hide personal information from the public directory." you did not realize that the domain owner will not be you.
    Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy 4/b. is probably what you are looking for: https://archive.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp-policy-24oct99.htm
    And the UDRP Complaint Form https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/dndr/udrp-form

  • Good luck with your lawsuit.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    This is like asking how to get unraped after getting raped.

  • @asasd said:
    @Hindi
    Situation 1: The domain is yours
    If the domain is yours, it is on your name, they can't give your domain to someone else. The domain is still yours until the end of the grace period. In this case, immediately transfer your domain to another, fair registrar.

    "we may provide a procedure by which expired domain name registration services may be renewed. We may, but are not obligated to, offer this process..."
    This only means they have the right to not renew a domain, not to do business with you. They want you to believe your only option is to wait out the grace period and buy it again. But their actual goal is that their domain squatting partner buys it and sells back to you for a high price or use it for advertisement.

    Situation 2: The domain was never yours.
    You signed an agreement https://www.name.com/policies/registration-agreement point 5/c., the ID Protection Service Agreement. https://www.name.com/policies/idp
    "You agree that DPSI may assume complete ownership of the Whois Privacy Domain(s), that the Whois Privacy Domain(s) may be sold to third parties, or that the Whois Privacy Domain(s) may be pointed to IP numbers of DPSI's choosing, and that DPSI may immediately cancel Your Account and all services provided to You."

    Solution:
    Open a domain dispute at ICANN. If you can prove that you used the domain (example you have a cv on it and it was crawled by archive.org, you have private key of past ssl certificate, you still have the same website/service on the same ip it was pointing to), then you can actually get it back.
    Include in your dispute the following screenshot (name.com's current checkout process), and mention name.com's misleading UI, and when you ordered "Whois Privacy - Hide personal information from the public directory." you did not realize that the domain owner will not be you.
    Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy 4/b. is probably what you are looking for: https://archive.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp-policy-24oct99.htm
    And the UDRP Complaint Form https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/dndr/udrp-form

    Now THAT is an answer!

Sign In or Register to comment.