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Huawei Cloud - Free Cloud VPS for 12 months - Anyone tried?

Sofia_KSofia_K Member
edited September 2019 in General

I just stumble upon Huawei Cloud products (quite similar to AWS, Alibaba Cloud). They're offering free cloud server for first 12 months.

Flavor: s3.large.2
2 vCPU
4 GB RAM
Linux / Windows

Also Elastic IP, Elastic Volume 40GB, Document Database, SQL Server, Cloud backup and CDN services too - in that free tier (1500 free for 12 mo)

Locations: Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore, and Johannesburg

Is anyone already using them? If yes, how's the performance?

Here's the link

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  • 1500 hours free for 12 months. If i'm not mistaken.

  • Sofia_KSofia_K Member
    edited September 2019

    creep said: 1500 hours free for 12 months.

    Yeah! 1500 hrs is just 62 days!! (2 months).
    But their support replied its 12 months!
    That's why I asked, anyone using it??

  • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider

    @Francisco said:
    I heard the local govt keeps full backups for you free of charge.

    Francisco

    everything is possible :smiley:

  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    I wouldn't trust Huawei with any sensitive data due to the recent news building up.

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  • The UI looks the same as Alibaba Cloud. I think they are just reselling them? I was hoping to get a few new locations for dnsperf.com

  • @BlaZe said:
    I wouldn't trust Huawei with any sensitive data due to the recent news building up.

    Yes, lowenders have very sensitive data... Pr0n download proxy is not sensitive data.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @BlaZe said:
    I wouldn't trust Huawei with any sensitive data due to the recent news building up.

    Yes, absolutely. It's much better to trust companies who consider you to be a product and who sell out all your info and data.

    Let's look at it again once you have solid data points and not just "news" and politicians blabla.

  • Perfect for federated porn hosting. :-) Data is throw away who cares if Kim Jung and Putin want to parse through terabytes of PT. LoL

  • CConnerCConner Member, Host Rep

    china

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  • 4GB RAM + Windows, good spec for free.

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  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran
    edited September 2019

    How someone can question about Huawei Cloud trust? if majority of LET are were happy with some summer host which were last only 3 to 6 months but the deal was so great by prepayment for 3 years in advance!! Example: Alphacrack or Alphasuck or Joshua Prout division or plenty of other summer hosts on LET #nocommonsence #whogiveaF

  • @WebProject said:
    How someone can question about Huawei Cloud trust? if majority of LET are were happy with some summer host which were last only 3 to 6 months but the deal was so great by prepayment for 3 years in advance!! Example: Alphacrack or Alphasuck or Joshua Prout division or plenty of other summer hosts on LET #nocommonsence #whogiveaF

    Majority of LET are happy with summer hosts? Where the hell are you actually talking about? Your examples are not summer hosts.

    We can question Huawei Cloud trust because they are fundamentally cheaters at all levels of the company. It's their DNA. They have a bonus system for bringing in competitor trade secrets.

    Question is, why do you trust them, despite ample public evidence you shouldn't?

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @TimboJones said:
    We can question Huawei Cloud trust because they are fundamentally cheaters at all levels of the company. It's their DNA.

    That, the last sentence is a strong indicator of your statements being propaganda. It's usually heard/read when someone has a belief but no facts.

    Btw, you seem to not know that Huawei has offered to provide (or already provided) source code of quite some critical product lines like e.g. their cellular gen 5 products.

  • jbuggiejbuggie Member
    edited September 2019

    I can understand why someone would want to deal with these guys. For me it is just a waste of time. Not their hardware nor their network.

  • @BlaZe said:
    I wouldn't trust Huawei with any sensitive data due to the recent news building up.

    Lets face it between the Chinese spyware, the US spyware and everyone else's spyware there's already multiple copies of the data about... now if only these lot would offer data recovery services.

  • @Francisco said:
    I heard the local govt keeps full backups for you free of charge.

    Francisco

    Apparently we have an organization in the US that backsup all traffic passing through certain internet transit points as well.

  • data prying is everywhere, from U.S., Canada, EU to China and Hong Kong. So hosting with Huawei Cloud / Chinese host is as equally safe as hosting with any U.S. / EU Host.

  • @Francisco said:
    I heard the local govt keeps full backups for you free of charge.

    Francisco

    They also scan it for "viruses."

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  • @jsg said:

    @TimboJones said:
    We can question Huawei Cloud trust because they are fundamentally cheaters at all levels of the company. It's their DNA.

    That, the last sentence is a strong indicator of your statements being propaganda. It's usually heard/read when someone has a belief but no facts.

    Btw, you seem to not know that Huawei has offered to provide (or already provided) source code of quite some critical product lines like e.g. their cellular gen 5 products.

    Anything to do with Chinese is questionable to them. But cant blame them, I myself dont believe a lot of Chinese products too. The only reason I "give up everything" just to buy Chinese product is when the product is cheap and good when there's no better alternative (cheap + good). I myself still use Huawei phone, and have another Xiaomi phone.

    Both Murica and Chinese are having "baddest" people as we normally shouldnt trust them (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Wechat, Huawei, etc). But I have a slight empathy for Murica, maybe because they don't scam me yet, and they build genuine products, no clone and copycats (well, idk).

    In Malaysia, we have this thing called 'Macau scam' and also other scam things. They are notoriously running by Chinese. And all those fake products in shopping malls, Shopee, and Lazada are from China. Thank god my Huawei phone is not fake (well screw my data, i dont care it myself, just fucking take my selfies or whatever).

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  • @jsg said:

    @TimboJones said:
    We can question Huawei Cloud trust because they are fundamentally cheaters at all levels of the company. It's their DNA.

    That, the last sentence is a strong indicator of your statements being propaganda. It's usually heard/read when someone has a belief but no facts.

    Btw, you seem to not know that Huawei has offered to provide (or already provided) source code of quite some critical product lines like e.g. their cellular gen 5 products.

    Wtf are YOU talking about? You're constantly making claims that you don't have sources for and take your ball and go home when pressed for it. I didn't think I needed to link to numerous stories referencing court cases with lawsuits about this. I thought it was common knowledge at this point.

    I have no idea the relevance of sharing code disproves them stealing technology. Is that supposed to be a defense against intentionally putting in backdoors, or something?

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @creep

    Kindly note that my statement was not "all Chinese are holy and free of sin". What I said was that they certainly are not what western media, politicians, and competitors tell us.
    So, yes, there are chinese criminals, plagiators, thiefs, etc - just like there are american or french ones. And there are good chinese people and companies - just like there are good american or french ones.

    Btw, I myself don't really like Huawei, but not because they are chinese. I mistrust them because life has tought me to mistrust large corporations and because Huawei - just like most others - closes down their smartphones both software (no rooting support anymore) and hardware (can't easily change accu).

    @TimboJones said:
    Wtf are YOU talking about? You're constantly making claims that you don't have sources for and take your ball and go home when pressed for it. I didn't think I needed to link to numerous stories referencing court cases with lawsuits about this. I thought it was common knowledge at this point.

    As is also common knowledge that "court cases" in certain countries mean little in terms of proof. If you want proof how about asking the americans and brits for proof for their wild allegations? Don't hold your breath though ...

    I have no idea the relevance of sharing code disproves them stealing technology. Is that supposed to be a defense against intentionally putting in backdoors, or something?

    Yes, opening up their source code is about as good as one can get in terms of backdoor protection. The big advantage is that one can analyse it, hash it as well as the output, compare it against what Huawei delivers, etc. rather than needing to trust politicians or media or the libel of competitors.

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  • @jsg said:
    @creep

    Kindly note that my statement was not "all Chinese are holy and free of sin". What I said was that they certainly are not what western media, politicians, and competitors tell us.
    So, yes, there are chinese criminals, plagiators, thiefs, etc - just like there are american or french ones. And there are good chinese people and companies - just like there are good american or french ones.

    Btw, I myself don't really like Huawei, but not because they are chinese. I mistrust them because life has tought me to mistrust large corporations and because Huawei - just like most others - closes down their smartphones both software (no rooting support anymore) and hardware (can't easily change accu).

    @TimboJones said:
    Wtf are YOU talking about? You're constantly making claims that you don't have sources for and take your ball and go home when pressed for it. I didn't think I needed to link to numerous stories referencing court cases with lawsuits about this. I thought it was common knowledge at this point.

    As is also common knowledge that "court cases" in certain countries mean little in terms of proof. If you want proof how about asking the americans and brits for proof for their wild allegations? Don't hold your breath though ...

    I have no idea the relevance of sharing code disproves them stealing technology. Is that supposed to be a defense against intentionally putting in backdoors, or something?

    Yes, opening up their source code is about as good as one can get in terms of backdoor protection. The big advantage is that one can analyse it, hash it as well as the output, compare it against what Huawei delivers, etc. rather than needing to trust politicians or media or the libel of competitors.

    You really need to stop using air quotes, you really don't know how to use them. If you can't trust a sworn affidavit submitted in court as proof (where lawyers will defend if false), then you're not worth talking to. But you obviously don't follow security industry or news sites like one would think. You're really talking out of turn on this one. It's almost like you wouldn't believe anything unless Huawei admitted it themselves. And they settle court cases to avoid that (ie, Nortel).

    Do you think software and firmware loads don't change? It's not even wide spread implemented so there's a ton of software upgrades over time. Do you think code validation is done on every release? Do you think code is open for every single part? Do you think it's bug free? One of the UK complaints were the long list of security bugs that needed to be fixed, full stop. Huawei didn't argue that point, just committed to fixing them.

    They are the Russian Olympic doping athletes of technology.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @TimboJones

    I have a bit of advice for you: attacking someone personally is no replacement for facts and arguments.

    Looking at very highly likely flaky documents provided to and accepted by the fisa court, which is a rather high ranking court, I don't see a basis for blindly trusting anything provided to or said by an american or british (and some other) court, sorry.

    As for software and firmware changing you might want to learn some basics before arguing. If credible and capable organisations have the source code as well as updates/patches/fixes from a vendor (e.g. Huawei) they can verify whether the deployed code on the devices matches the provided source code.

    As for the "long list" of Huawei bugs, pardon me but you obviously are way out of your depth. That is utterly normal for large projects/bodies of code. The decisive difference is not that e.g. Cisco had less bugs, it rather is that the brits looked very closely at Huaweis code and with the intent to find "major problems".
    Huawei, as you state yourself, committed to fixing them. What more should they do? If only Cisco, Juniper, and all others acted in the same way the world would be better off.

    I'd trust Huawei way more than e.g. Cisco anytime - and well noted I like quite a lot of Cisco's products.

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  • @jsg said:
    @TimboJones

    I have a bit of advice for you: attacking someone personally is no replacement for facts and arguments.

    Looking at very highly likely flaky documents provided to and accepted by the fisa court, which is a rather high ranking court, I don't see a basis for blindly trusting anything provided to or said by an american or british (and some other) court, sorry.

    As for software and firmware changing you might want to learn some basics before arguing. If credible and capable organisations have the source code as well as updates/patches/fixes from a vendor (e.g. Huawei) they can verify whether the deployed code on the devices matches the provided source code.

    As for the "long list" of Huawei bugs, pardon me but you obviously are way out of your depth. That is utterly normal for large projects/bodies of code. The decisive difference is not that e.g. Cisco had less bugs, it rather is that the brits looked very closely at Huaweis code and with the intent to find "major problems".
    Huawei, as you state yourself, committed to fixing them. What more should they do? If only Cisco, Juniper, and all others acted in the same way the world would be better off.

    I'd trust Huawei way more than e.g. Cisco anytime - and well noted I like quite a lot of Cisco's products.

    Which part was a personal attack? Telling you that you're greatly uninformed and ignorant because you won't even do your own research? The hypocrisy of "no replacement for facts and arguments" and then say how you don't accept facts and arguments from court of law, where there's actual rules on facts and arguments? Just another contradictory statement from you. SMH.

    I won't even get into the can aspect of your validating source code, its like you don't know how large companies work. A third party does a full code and change analysis per update? And without delaying deployments? You're not even trying to think critically. You claim 1000 loopholes in documents to protect countries in war, but no loopholes in large code dumps that can't easily slip in some nasty in half a dozen ways?

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @TimboJones

    "3 + 4 = 7" is a fact. "water naturally flows downwards" is a fact. "some court said xyz", let alone "some attorney said xyz" doesn't make xyz a fact. Btw. while a court verdict or ruling creates something that is very similar to a fact, note that a verdict or ruling is not necessarily based on facts. Quite a few ruling overturned by higher courts demonstrate that clearly. And btw, the sun didn't run around the earth just because at some point in time the authorities declared that to be a "fact".

    As for "not knowing": I said "credible and capable organisation" - not "large company". Typically the organisation tasked with jobs like that is something like the german BSI (the federal agency for IT security) which just so happened to clearly state that they are content with Huaweis cooperation/openness; even more they indicated that they'd rather trust Huawei than some of their competitors.

    That is how it works pretty much everywhere. A "credible and capable organisation", typically a state agency, checks, looks into, verifies and then virtually all companies, at least of a given nation, as well as most citizens trust the result. No need for all "large companies" to each verify themselves everything and btw. the driver usually are insurance issues and insurances tend to accept e.g. BSI (or other state agencies like NIST) statements/rules/findings.

    You see, I know that you love to know better than anyone else but I'd suggest to think twice before trying that with someone who actually works in the field and knows and has experience with how e.g. BSI works, what insurances look for, etc.

    You don't like Huawei? No problem, just buy some other brand.

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  • Chinese also have good people and bad people
    And good Chinese people are dead

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  • @TimboJones said:

    Wtf are YOU talking about? You're constantly making claims that you don't have sources for and take your ball and go home when pressed for it.

    oh no, you engaged it; mistake #1.
    Simply ignore it.

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  • lovehclovehc Member
    edited September 2019

    @creep said:

    @jsg said:

    @TimboJones said:
    We can question Huawei Cloud trust because they are fundamentally cheaters at all levels of the company. It's their DNA.

    That, the last sentence is a strong indicator of your statements being propaganda. It's usually heard/read when someone has a belief but no facts.

    Btw, you seem to not know that Huawei has offered to provide (or already provided) source code of quite some critical product lines like e.g. their cellular gen 5 products.

    Anything to do with Chinese is questionable to them. But cant blame them, I myself dont believe a lot of Chinese products too. The only reason I "give up everything" just to buy Chinese product is when the product is cheap and good when there's no better alternative (cheap + good). I myself still use Huawei phone, and have another Xiaomi phone.

    Both Murica and Chinese are having "baddest" people as we normally shouldnt trust them (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Wechat, Huawei, etc). But I have a slight empathy for Murica, maybe because they don't scam me yet, and they build genuine products, no clone and copycats (well, idk).

    In Malaysia, we have this thing called 'Macau scam' and also other scam things. They are notoriously running by Chinese. And all those fake products in shopping malls, Shopee, and Lazada are from China. Thank god my Huawei phone is not fake (well screw my data, i dont care it myself, just fucking take my selfies or whatever).

    Your comments are biased and arrogant.
    We have a lot of telecom fraud here, from Malaysia.

  • I didn't use them before but to be honest I'd trust Huawei more than the other "Guy" ;)

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