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Can you make this a little m> @yokowasis said:
I used to do that all the time in the old days lol. I prefer the new days!
Adding a wordpress installer would not be difficult, if it's just about wordpress. Adding 500 installers for 500 different programs would be unfeasible (that's basically want softaculous is). Accreting a few dozen user contributed installers over a year or two period might be doable and would probably cover most of the popular programs.
@Falzo have they moved the PHPMYADMIN off the root of every domain hosted? i.e. http://hosteddomain.com/phpmyadmin/
Nobody expect an auto installer of 500 of different software. You can make at least WordPress. Since it's the most wide used cms as of right now. To be fair I only use softaculous to install WordPress. The devs should be able to make at least that, and file manager. The others can be made by the community. The devs need to lay the ground work and standardized how auto installer work.
That's what scriptaculous is (500+). I think the top 20 would satisfy most users. I don't know that the auto installer has to be under the Vesta/Hestia banner, just that it should be FOSS so that Vesta/Hestia can use it.
People don't need 500+, people use softaculous because there is no viable alternative as of right now. It's basically just like whmcs / whm / cpanel
So what do they need? Is 20 enough? Post your top 10.
Can't you use Softaculous still? They do offer a remote installer where you just enter your FTP data iirc. So it doesn't even need to be part of hestia, really. You'd probably need to create the dtbs also manually and enter them in the remote Softaculous install script but since hestia isn't really meant for reselling but for personal use, I see no issue with that.
I wouldn't want to give softaculous (or any random 3rd party company) my ftp credentials, and anyway the idea is to have a free solution.
Fair enough. Just mentioned this as some people (not sure if it was you, too) wanted to have Softaculous implemented.
phpmyadmin has never been in the docroot of the users (nor has roundcube), thats just an alias and that's still there.
Or are you concerned because that might lead to more background noise/bruteforce attempts by bots guessing that url?
@yokowasis @willie I like he idea of adding a few most liked tools step by step via own functionality, maybe wordpress could be a pilot 🙄
is hestia can run in centOS?
Real men use Debian, thx.
HESTIA is all about simplicity, you can easily manage the basic things of hosting, dns and email. HESTIA installs everything that is required through their installer, so for me it doesn't really matter if it doesn't work on CentOS but Debian and Ubuntu.
Personally I'm a CentOS only user too but I'm running HESTIA on Debian 9. Everything is running fine and I was able to do all the customizations I needed.
If you're familiar with almost any of the popular Linux distros then you should be able to handle all of them. All you need is Google
That was more the case for VestaCP. It used to be in the root. Anytime you went to a hosted domain you could got to the subdirectory of /phpmyadmin/ and boom there it was.
as said it's still implemented as an alias in vhosts, so all domains will work if you call xyz.com/phpmyadmin - but the files are definitely not inside the users root but in the default location where apt puts them ;-)
afaik vesta also runs it as an alias for quite some time now, never really stumbled across the files in a user dir.
Even 5 is enough. CWP, cyber panel, even good old virtualmin has built in WordPress installer.
Nobody forced softaculous on hestia / vesta. People just need some kind of auto installer. Vesta use softaculous because they don't have time to develop built in auto installer.
Also file manager, personal or commercial, file manager is an integral part of a control panel.
the 90s just called and want their file managers back... ;-)
No No, that is exactly what I meant.
It is a bit concerning, and I hope they change that. Less exposure to interface the better.
how would you want to provide phpmyadmin to your clients instead?
I understand the concerns regarding bots probing for that uri and then trying to bruteforce. not making it available as an alias or subdomain is not adding security though, more likely obscurity ;-)
however, if you don't want to have it available or want to change the naming of the url part, it's easy to change the according vhost config. it might break the link in the panel though.
afaik there is something planned or in the work to allow a user change on that through the panel, but I don't know the exact details right now...
Ok, what are your top 5? Srsly though, I find softaculous very impressive, and it clued me in to the capabilities of cheap shared hosting, which I had previously thought of as geocities without ads. There's a ton of stuff in it.
Regarding stuff like file managers, I'm sure there are good free ones around, maybe in drupal, which also has a ton of stuff. I don't know how feasible it is to run a drupal app from something like Hestia though.
WordPress
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It would be far better off to go to a url on the 8083 port, or via the hosts dns vhost. In most cases there is no need for the front end site to have phpmyadmin there. It is just "convenient'.
I see. I am afraid that'll be something you just should do yourself then, by changing/removing the vhost config for phmyadmin and be done with it ;-)
luckily both tools allow these kind of easy customizations for concerned sysadmins...
Pretty sure that should be a default.
This. In cPanel, I've never made these aliases (phpmyadmin/webmail etc.) available, preferring users to use a port (admittedly the default ones) and/or via the panel itself. One less attack vector for bots/scanners, which could count against them in modsec.
Working together with @Falzo and some other members on hestia and just would like to contribute something to this nice discussion
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You can change the alias using cli (v-change-sys-pma/webmail newalias) or using the backend under server settings, database or webmail. This points are also visible in our demo which you can find here: https://demo.hestiacp.com:8083/edit/server/
+1 for the sex tapes
I would also like to know the top 10 or 5, whatever it is. If you would like to have a autoinstaller for wordpress, please just fill out a issue report on our github project. We will then discuss this together and check if we can add such a function.
Also filemanager should be in plan for the next release (1.1.0), until now we've integrated a theme manager and reworked the multiphp environment, so that you can easily manage them from the backend. You can checkout the current changes in our changelog: https://github.com/hestiacp/hestiacp/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
WordPress
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Some cms
Some forum
Some something
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Tell me more about that casserole...