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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    lel...

    Low End Language.

  • Their ram has processor inside.

  • failhostingsfailhostings Member
    edited July 2019

    @Janevski said:
    Their ram has processor inside.

  • IonSwitch_StanIonSwitch_Stan Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2019

    What is Intelligent RAM™?

    Our Intelligent RAM™ minimises the amount of RAM your VPS needs. This highly advanced technology constantly monitors all VPS's on a server; if multiple VPS's load the same application into memory, your individual memory usage is automatically reduced to just a fraction whilst maintaining a 100% security isolation layer between each individual Cloud VPS.

    On average, we estimate you effectively get 3-5x the stated amount of RAM as Intelligent RAM™ de-duplicates across the platform. For example if you buy a 1GB Intelligent RAM™ Cloud VPS, it behaves similarly to a server with between 3GB - 5GB traditional RAM.

    This allows your Cloud VPS to handle significantly more workload at a lower cost.

    I’m curious how they are “dynamically” giving your KVM instance more or less ram based on dedupe.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    So they enabled ballooning and ksm.

    Francisco

  • In plain language:

    We are pulling an Alpharacks in terms of VM density hopefully without having to becoming PSK hosting.

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  • this must be the cutting edge Tachyum server

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  • @cybertech said:
    this must be the cutting edge Tachyum server

    Cutting edge potassium technology

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  • ITLabsITLabs Member

    @poisson said:
    In plain language:

    We are pulling an Alpharacks in terms of VM density hopefully without having to becoming PSK hosting.

    Chabuduo?

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  • IonSwitch_StanIonSwitch_Stan Member, Host Rep

    So they enabled ballooning and ksm

    @Francisco except those benefit the provider. Their marketing garble clearly suggests you “get” 3-5x the ram. Ballooning and page sharing benefit the provider (the prior only occurring when there is memory contention). But they are suggesting you get “more” memory in some way.

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  • So they discovered that something like transparent page sharing in ESX exists and got this brilliant idea that they now can sell "3x-5x" more memory then they have, and also write a bunch of marketing ... which implies that this somehow benefits users?
    Does not sound good TBH...

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  • how is this differnt from overcommit?

  • uptimeuptime Member

    @deank said:
    lel...

    Low End Language.

    kek

    @cybertech said:
    how is this differnt from overcommit?

    attempted marketing hype (vs transparent "this is how we can do cheap deals" - which may be acceptable if executed competently)

    tl;dr: pissing on my leg while telling me it's raining premium ram

  • @Gamma17 said:
    So they discovered that something like transparent page sharing in ESX exists and got this brilliant idea that they now can sell "3x-5x" more memory then they have, and also write a bunch of marketing ... which implies that this somehow benefits users?
    Does not sound good TBH...

    Even in ESXi with TPS enabled this will not have impact to VM guest os memory usage, they will still limited to the configured memory size. It will only give benefit to lower host memory usage. No performance increase at all to guest VM if everything work normal.

    And if they claim this will increase performance then it means they oversell the memory on their server in a high ratio so when TPS not enabled each VM will compete for memory access and some will got memory from swap. TPS also not guarantee VM will always got memory from physical memory. TPS will work harder (try to shared in a little block size) when physical host memory usage reach some threshold, which means memory usage already high and theres a good chance that VM will get memory from swap disk and performance will declined.

    Just avoid this provider.

  • BopieBopie Member

    Oh sweet new marketing name for me then because no way have they TM that lol.

    On a serious level seems that all they do is what most providers do which is enable KSM which as explained will simply just allow more than one VM with the same page loaded into ram to share it instead of loading it multiple times .... Funny marking thing really but id never heard of this company so yano...

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  • LeviLevi Member

    That google ridden link :O lel kek selekter

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  • @hardgamers said:

    Even in ESXi with TPS enabled this will not have impact to VM guest os memory usage, they will still limited to the configured memory size. It will only give benefit to lower host memory usage. No performance increase at all to guest VM if everything work normal.

    And if they claim this will increase performance then it means they oversell the memory on their server in a high ratio so when TPS not enabled each VM will compete for memory access and some will got memory from swap. TPS also not guarantee VM will always got memory from physical memory. TPS will work harder (try to shared in a little block size) when physical host memory usage reach some threshold, which means memory usage already high and theres a good chance that VM will get memory from swap disk and performance will declined.

    Just avoid this provider.

    Yeah, i understand that it benefits host in case of overcommit, saving memory and allowing running more VM-s.

    It also benefits VM-s/users indirectly, improving performance in a case of given number of VM-s/given overcommit on specific host, and potentially decreasing prices prices.
    Not in a way it is advertised here though...

    Most radical case of TPS usage I've seen so far was server with 128GB ram running ~100 win7 vm-s for use as remote desktops. With 4GB "dedicated" to each VM, users running FF/outlook/word (2013)/.net app eating ~600mb of ram, almost no swapping and great performance.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    image

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Well, you can render 4k porn now with just memory sticks.
    Its impressive.

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