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Membucket.io BETA Registration ANNOUNCEMENT - CALLING Shared Hosts - Site Accelerator cPanel Plugin

JosephdJosephd Member
edited August 2018 in General

Dear LowEndTalk community,

We, the Membucket staff, are new members of your community, but each of us are industry veterans.

Over the past two decades, we were lucky to watch the web host industry grow and mature while surviving many of upheavals and burst bubbles.

However, in recent years technology has focused on the enterprise side of the industry while neglecting the shared space. Profit margins continue to shrink along with a sufficient value proposition for the end user.

Membucket hopes to address these very problems. We believe that our low-cost site caching option will aid you in increasing your profit margins while increasing customer satisfaction and retention.

Today, we are pleased to announce exclusively to the LowEndTalk community, the BETA registration for Membucket. We have a full Q&A below, and our team will be here to answer any questions.

ALL LINKS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POST -- BUT YOU SHOULD READ THIS FIRST

COMMON Q&A's

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1. What is Membucket?

Membucket is a way to sell micro containers of RAM to your customers who wish to accelerate their websites, speed up page load times, and time-to-first-byte while remaining in a densely packed Shared Host server.

Basically this is a way to make more money off of your existing servers and customers while attracting new ones.

2. Why did we make this product?

We have been leveraging memcached type caching mechanisms for years, but were frustrated by the lack of options in a shared hosting environments. Many years of managing complex and expensive infrastructures we always go back to asking; "Why can't we get what we need in a shared hosting environment? This should be so much simpler by now."

After Asking ourselves why this product did not exist we decided to take on the challenge ourselves.

3. What problem does it solve?

Websites keep getting bigger and loading slower. Who wants to manage a server anymore? or pay for someone to manage it? Why? Just so you could get access to a service like memcache.

That's a heavy buy in for a site you need loading faster to gain traction and audience but out of reach since you aren't attracting advertisers yet.

Your customers need a performance boost option that increments in their price range.

$1+ to $5/month more

Membucket makes websites faster while leveraging the common memcache-client libraries that exist in all programming languages today.

Example:

Vanilla Wordpress v4.9.5 in php7 loads the index.php in 2.3 seconds on cPanel from an SSD. Running the same site with a minimal Membucket install, it began loading under 300ms.

We are performing benchmarks and plan to post results. We believe that Membucket enabled service providers will be able to increase their customer density drastically as their customers consume Membucket, as it relieves diskIO, and CPU.

5. How does it work?

Please note, that accessing an object from RAM is still around 20x times faster than accessing it from even an SSD.

Leveraging your application's memcache-client you can access the Membucket Well Service in a socket file located in your user account's home directory. Popular application frameworks are already capable of leveraging their memcache-client settings offloading database calls, page caching, media caching and so on. You simply configure the settings for a POSIX path to the user's allocated Membucket socket to leverage the Membucket caching service.

Example Wordpress

  1. Search for and install the Membucket wordpress plugin
  2. Access the WP-Admin Plugin Settings for “Membucket”
  3. Select an available Well
  4. Select the data type(s) you want cached
  5. Visitor 1 will access the site, loading: fresh sql queries, indexes, page contents, images into Membucket as key value objects.
  6. Visitor 2+ retrieve that pre-rendered content from RAM much faster bypassing disk and the majority of the CPU cycles it required to render the first time.

6. Why would your customers want it?

Who doesn’t want their web site to load faster?

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The majority of the SEO struggle is getting your site to load under 1.5 seconds, so you don't get penalized by search engines. Membucket reduces that to 300ms even on a heavy database driven frameworks like Wordpress.

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PRICING
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7. What does it cost?

Membucket is free during the beta as our gift to early adopters, and unlike other products in shared hosting we will always be free to install then charged as consumed so you can create product availability without the typical annual buyin. We believe that we shouldn’t make money until you make money.

8. Can I sell it to my customers while in BETA? and how many Buckets could I sell?

Yes, we want you to sell it to your customers as long as you abide by a few simple rules. We have a minimum MSRP. And we do not allow discounting or bundling with Free services to offset the value of Membucket.

A typical cPanel pizza box with 32GB of RAM will have approximately 2,000 Buckets available to sell to customers.

Wordpress can have over 64 Buckets allocated across 4 x Wells. If the host was charging our minimum MSRP of $1/month per Bucket, that's taking an original $5/month customer and turning them into a $70/month customer in $1/month increments as their sites gains popularity.

9. What is the minimum MSRP? and why did we implement this?

It cannot be sold for less than $1.00 per Bucket per month, but we encourage you to see how much you can charge for it. Currently, the alternative is buying an entire VM and installing caching services for a web site, so we think $5.00/Bucket per month would be a great place to start.

The reason we decided on an minimum MSRP is to ultimately protect you, our customers by preventing an industry wide race to the bottom. FREE FREE FREE!. We’ve all seen it before. Businesses that are forced to give everything away for free are impossible to profit from. This policy will ensure even small shared hosts can profit from selling our product.

10. How do I sell it to them?

  1. Sell it as a bundled addon, on a separate line item.
  2. Sell it as an upgrade to your existing packages which shows on on a separate line item.
  3. Create a “high performance” web package, see #1

What happens if you break these rules? We aren't crazy, but we sure wouldn't appreciate that and we will be monitoring that everyone is following the rules.

We also have a WHMCS provisioning module available on our Github. It is open-source and totally free to use. Look for the links at the bottom of this post.

Don’t use WHMCS?
Don’t use cPanel?

Tell us what you want to see released next. don’t forget to vote when you register

BETA

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11. How do I get into the beta?

Register and tell us a little bit about yourself, and your company. Registration is open, links at the bottom of this post.

We will decide who is a good fit for the initial BETA testing, and then will open the BETA completely without wait periods within approximately 30 days.

12. What are my responsibilities?

You are expected to follow the TOS, which is mainly around the way you advertise Membucket and follow the MSRP rules.

Other than that, in lieu of payment we ask that you login to the portal once a week to fill out a short survey of no more than 5 questions. This is designed to give us the feedback we need while not deterring your from your business focus of selling more.

13. What are the limitations? can I see it, can I alter the code, etc?

Membucket is closed source, but we have an open sourced API document for provisioning and management purposes. Please feel free to integrate us into whatever custom backends you use and we are happy to assist if you run into any troubles.

14. How do I log a bug?

Open a “Ticket” under the “Support” section of the licensing portal, please see links at the bottom of this post.

15. How long will it take to get something fixed?

We are pretty fast about fixing bugs and responses in general so I couldn’t imagine that we are going to go outside of 48 hours even when something is tough.

16. How long is the BETA expected to be?

We have a few objectives we want to meet before we end the BETA testing period. Although it greatly depends on user turn out and feedback. We estimate in about 60 to 90 days from open BETA registration.

17. What is the purpose of this BETA?

We’ve pretty thoroughly tested this software in the lab, the next step is to create awareness to both the Shared Hosts and end-users.

18. What advantages do I get by signing up for the BETA?

  1. Bragging rights! Yes we will be issuing linear customer numbers. Are you number 1?
  2. A major influence on feature requests
  3. Ability to sell a product with value at no cost while in BETA
  4. Influence on initial pricing
  5. A discount that will carry over to the production release for life of your account.
  6. Ability to generate more revenue without buying more servers or buying into costly upfront business models.
  7. And don’t forget the part that it’s Free.. for now. During the beta

SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS

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19. What control panels do we support?

We have an official cPanel plugin deployed via repository today.

20. Why did we decide to support cPanel first?

Despite the various opinions out there, cPanel is pretty much the defacto standard.

21. What is our control panel roadmap?

  • NoPanel - a version that is not control panel dependent to quickly integrate into any control panel
  • Please vote for your control panel of choice when you register.

22. What billing platforms do we support?

  • WHMCS
  • Again please vote for your billing platform of choice when you register.

23. I am not using fill in the blank control panel can I still participate?

Yes, you can register, you can vote, we want your input and hope to support you soon.

LEGALITIES

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24. What assurances do I have that it is secure and won't be subject to an exploit or breech?

Membucket leverages the same security isolation that separates your users today and changes nothing about this behavior.

25. What happens if it is?

Despite the unlikelihood of this event, we would immediately roll out and deploy a patch.

26. What happens if it destroys a customer’s website?

This is not possible given the nature of the service. Membucket caches data that already exists, it does not write data to disk and therefore cannot corrupt or change data on the server.

If the Membucket service is not running or if the cached object is not present, the data request will still be served from disk, and therefore will never prevent a site from operating normally.

FUTURE

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27. Where do we see Membucket going from here?

We just want feedback for now. Lots and lots of feedback. Our roadmap for updates and features depend solely on the community and what you want. We will be polling all BETA users for the following items:

  1. Billing modules
  2. Additional control panels
  3. Site framework plugins
  4. Top 5 feature requests

Links

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Our Site

BETA Registeration

Billing Integrations

WHMCS Plugin

WHMCS Plugin - System Requirements

For your customers oob

WordPress-Accelerator Plugin

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Comments

  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2018

    Looks promising, I'll register :)

    EDIT:
    Found a simple registration issue: http://prntscr.com/khborg

    If I enter site with WWW and the email will be ofcourse without WWW, it won't let me register.
    Please alter it so that I'll proceed with the registration.

  • JosephdJosephd Member
    edited August 2018

    @BlaZe said:
    Looks promising, I'll register :)

    EDIT:
    Found a simple registration issue: http://prntscr.com/khborg

    If I enter site with WWW and the email will be ofcourse without WWW, it won't let me register.
    Please alter it so that I'll proceed with the registration.

    BlaZe, thank you for the screenshot!

    Just remove the "www" from your website on the form.

    We are renaming this to domain on the form now.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Do you have any AUP for your plugin, for example not allowed to accelerate porn sites?

    Just asking, since Litespeed excludes porn sites in there AUP.

  • @Neoon said:
    Do you have any AUP for your plugin, for example not allowed to accelerate porn sites?

    Just asking, since Litespeed excludes porn sites in there AUP.

    Neon, this is a great question.

    This software service runs on your servers, and over your providers. We have zero preference in what you use it for since your data is never on our servers or our network.

    We just hope that you use it legally, morally and responsibly.

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  • You need to provide a way for someone to reset their password, as it's confusing the way you set the password and after that... nobody can reset it?

  • JosephdJosephd Member
    edited August 2018

    @gozen said:
    You need to provide a way for someone to reset their password, as it's confusing the way you set the password and after that... nobody can reset it?

    We welcome the feedback and we are reviewing secure methods for this process at this time but for now we will reset accounts manually by email to [email protected]

    We sent out your temporary password. Let us know if you need further assistance.

  • Sounds interesting, does this method of caching edge out LiteSpeed cache? I assume it can possibly be extended to more than Wordpress

  • Will wait for some benchmarks before believing on that 1.5sec -> 300ms claim

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  • FHRFHR Member, Host Rep

    Isn't this just slightly modified memcached with fancy buzzwords thrown all over the place?

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  • @FHR said:
    Isn't this just slightly modified memcached with fancy buzzwords thrown all over the place?

    thought the same. but he more likely doesnt really offer some kind of new caching, but a new way to sell small pieces of good old memcached to your (shared hosting) customer at an expensive rate.

    vovler said: Will wait for some benchmarks before believing on that 1.5sec -> 300ms claim

    me too.

  • @Falzo said:

    @FHR said:
    Isn't this just slightly modified memcached with fancy buzzwords thrown all over the place?

    thought the same. but he more likely doesnt really offer some kind of new caching, but a new way to sell small pieces of good old memcached to your (shared hosting) customer at an expensive rate.

    vovler said: Will wait for some benchmarks before believing on that 1.5sec -> 300ms claim

    me too.

    CALL THE IMPOSSIBLE!

  • @caracal said:
    Sounds interesting, does this method of caching edge out LiteSpeed cache? I assume it can possibly be extended to more than Wordpress

    Yes it can be extended beyond just Wordpress, but right now it can work with any web application that supports the memcache protocol.

    As for a Litespeed comparison, Litespeed out-of-the-box costs $65/month for a 4-CPU server and we start out as free until you start signing up customers then eventually will pay as consumed.

    As Falzo points out, we give shared hosts the ability to have optimized customers along side customers without optimizations and giving them a ramp up per website of $1/month per month thru $65/month per domain vs just turning things on and off for the entire server. What a waste of potential upgrade revenue!!!

  • @vovler said:
    Will wait for some benchmarks before believing on that 1.5sec -> 300ms claim

    We're skeptics at heart too, and we love fellow skeptics no worries. It is free to register for the BETA and test it out so don't forget to post your results because we stand behind our claim!

  • JosephdJosephd Member
    edited August 2018

    @Falzo said:

    @FHR said:
    Isn't this just slightly modified memcached with fancy buzzwords thrown all over the place?

    thought the same. but he more likely doesnt really offer some kind of new caching, but a new way to sell small pieces of good old memcached to your (shared hosting) customer at an expensive rate.

    vovler said: Will wait for some benchmarks before believing on that 1.5sec -> 300ms claim

    me too.

    Falzo, you totally get the point! But we do have our own method, and it is better than good ole'memcache.

  • @FHR said:
    Isn't this just slightly modified memcached with fancy buzzwords thrown all over the place?

    If it were that easy, this product would have come out 20 years ago ;-)

  • Whats the compatibility with Litespeed, cloudlinux & imunify360?

  • FHRFHR Member, Host Rep

    @Josephd said:

    @FHR said:
    Isn't this just slightly modified memcached with fancy buzzwords thrown all over the place?

    If it were that easy, this product would have come out 20 years ago ;-)

    It indeed is that easy, more like nobody thought this could be sellable like this / with this business model. From my understanding, your MSRP is around $1 per 1MB of memory - which is quite a lot IMO and I can't help but wonder whether people really want to pay this kind of money for such service.

    Josephd said: turning them into a $70/month customer in $1/month increments as their sites gains popularity.

    Popularity will not make the site magically use more in-memory cache, size of the site and types of cached items will.

    Anyway, since I run some sites with W3 Total Cache and memcached backend, I can attest that the speed difference can be as described, or even more. With that said, it all depends on the exact configuration of cache; which pages are cached and which are not, how often the cache needs to refresh etc.

    From my testing, for every ~60 WordPress cached pages/posts of modest size memcached will take up around 1MB of memory btw.

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  • @vovler said:
    Whats the compatibility with Litespeed, cloudlinux & imunify360?

    Litespeed - We are a different part of the stack, so we shouldn't conflict because we do not directly interact with the webserver itself, but rather the application itself.

    CloudLinux - We tested on a vanilla CloudLinux with cPanel and it worked without any troubles. Configurations may vary.

    Imunify360 - We haven't tried this yet, but it shouldn't interfere. Let us know how your test goes!!!

  • @Josephd said:

    @vovler said:
    Whats the compatibility with Litespeed, cloudlinux & imunify360?

    Litespeed - We are a different part of the stack, so we shouldn't conflict because we do not directly interact with the webserver itself, but rather the application itself.

    CloudLinux - We tested on a vanilla CloudLinux with cPanel and it worked without any troubles. Configurations may vary.

    Imunify360 - We haven't tried this yet, but it shouldn't interfere. Let us know how your test goes!!!

    Gonna run a few tests.

    VPS 1: Litespeed + cPanel + Wordpress + ionMag free theme(w/ Demo imported) + LSCache

    VPS 2: Litespeed + cPanel + Wordpress + ionMag free theme(w/ Demo imported) + membucket

    VPS 3: Apache + cPanel + Wordpress + ionMag free theme(w/ Demo imported) + membucket

    All on VMHaus, 4GB RAM w/ NVMe SSD storage.

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  • @Josephd said:

    @caracal said:
    Sounds interesting, does this method of caching edge out LiteSpeed cache? I assume it can possibly be extended to more than Wordpress

    Yes it can be extended beyond just Wordpress, but right now it can work with any web application that supports the memcache protocol.

    As for a Litespeed comparison, Litespeed out-of-the-box costs $65/month for a 4-CPU server and we start out as free until you start signing up customers then eventually will pay as consumed.

    As Falzo points out, we give shared hosts the ability to have optimized customers along side customers without optimizations and giving them a ramp up per website of $1/month per month thru $65/month per domain vs just turning things on and off for the entire server. What a waste of potential upgrade revenue!!!

    Correct for LiteSpeed ent, but it also gives you the option to scale. For a low traffic site, LiteSpeed has various options such as starting VPS License which is only $14, or even OpenLiteSpeed which is totally free.

    And for any custom applications out there, people just need to be aware of LSCache developer features.

    Companies who buy 4 CPU-License hosts a lot of sites that cover the cost of a license.

  • @cyberpersons said:
    Companies who buy 4 CPU-License hosts a lot of sites that cover the cost of a license.

    Exactly what I thought, 1 CPU-License is enough for a lot of clients, as Litespeed itself doesn't use that much CPU

  • It indeed is that easy, more like nobody thought this could be sellable like this / with this business model. From my understanding, your MSRP is around $1 per 1MB of memory - which is quite a lot IMO and I can't help but wonder whether people really want to pay this kind of money for such service.

    The $1 per 1MB is not accurate.

    A Bucket is 8MB of RAM allocation.

    Popularity will not make the site magically use more in-memory cache, size of the site and types of cached items will.

    Anyway, since I run some sites with W3 Total Cache and memcached backend, I can attest that the speed difference can be as described, or even more. With that said, it all depends on the exact configuration of cache; which pages are cached and which are not, how often the cache needs to refresh etc.

    From my testing, for every ~60 WordPress cached pages/posts of modest size memcached will take up around 1MB of memory btw.

    Our Wordpress plugin utilizes cache groups to optimize Buckets for the type of media they hold.

    Buckets are allocated to what we call Wells, which is the actual caching service.

    On the Control Panel plugin view we offer the ability for end users to deploy Wells from optimized templates for each cache group.

  • @cyberpersons said:

    @Josephd said:

    @caracal said:
    Sounds interesting, does this method of caching edge out LiteSpeed cache? I assume it can possibly be extended to more than Wordpress

    Yes it can be extended beyond just Wordpress, but right now it can work with any web application that supports the memcache protocol.

    As for a Litespeed comparison, Litespeed out-of-the-box costs $65/month for a 4-CPU server and we start out as free until you start signing up customers then eventually will pay as consumed.

    As Falzo points out, we give shared hosts the ability to have optimized customers along side customers without optimizations and giving them a ramp up per website of $1/month per month thru $65/month per domain vs just turning things on and off for the entire server. What a waste of potential upgrade revenue!!!

    Correct for LiteSpeed ent, but it also gives you the option to scale. For a low traffic site, LiteSpeed has various options such as starting VPS License which is only $14, or even OpenLiteSpeed which is totally free.

    And for any custom applications out there, people just need to be aware of LSCache developer features.

    Companies who buy 4 CPU-License hosts a lot of sites that cover the cost of a license.

    If you're on a VPS, then you're not a shared hoster.

    If every customer gets their own cPanel license, which is an additional $15/month, then they're NOT a shared host customer. They're a private company using cPanel on a VPS.

    This product is for the Shared Hosting Provider, to offer to shared hosting customers.

    I hope this gives everyone some clarity.

  • FHRFHR Member, Host Rep

    Josephd said: A Bucket is 8MB of RAM allocation.

    Can you tell me how you want to squeeze 4000 buckets on a 32GB server then?

  • @Josephd said:

    If you're on a VPS, then you're not a shared hoster.

    You can sell shared hosting on a VPS.

    If every customer gets their own cPanel license, which is an additional $15/month, then they're NOT a shared host customer. They're a private company using cPanel on a VPS.

    There is no need for each customer to get a new license, unless you are deploying a new VPS to each customer, which you are not.

  • williewillie Member
    edited August 2018

    This thread is getting reasonable reception from members so I guess ok, but I have to say it comes across as a bit spammy. And the questions and objections seem well taken. Conventional wisdom about Wordpress these days is that the bad slowdowns come from overuse of poorly written plugins, but Wordpress can be responsive with careful configuration and plenty of sites do that.

    Also, memcached was what, a 2008 thing, to bypass HDD latency before SSD was everywhere and servers had too little ram to serve everything from the local cache? So that 1.5s to 300ms speedup on an SSD system makes me suspicious of the mysql config and stuff like that.

    Litespeed it seemed to me (maybe I'm wrong) addresses a different issue, which is to support apache-style configuration files (.htaccess) while keeping an nginx-like concurrency strategy. So it's more about features than performance.

    Finally if I were running a site whose performance mattered, it wouldn't occur to me to use shared hosting in the first place. I do use shared hosting myself, but only for some low traffic personal pages.

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  • I think it is an interesting approach / idea for trying to upsell something.

    that said I heavily doubt a sharedhosting customer who pays like 3$ a month is willing to add more than 1-3$ on top of that - if ever. especially when the buckets don't translate into speed up on the same scale (like adding 10 buckets = getting 10x speeds)

    why should someone buy a 2nd or even 3rd, 4th bucket which most likely will not get him another big impact? I understand you could restrict it like needing a separate bucket for each type of stuff you want to cache or something like that.
    I also get that you probably want to limit the use per domain - still I doubt you find many people willing to pay another 12$ per year per domain.

    randomly picked: a2hosting offers memcached hosting from 8€ a month, which allows users to use memcached on all their domains - that's what you're going to compete with and were you $70 dreams most likely will end very soon :-P

    do you intend to charge your clients aka providers that want to use and sell membuckets based on installs/wells/buckets ?
    let's finally get to the point of your pricing and earning model then, shall we? ;-) ;-) ;-)

  • JosephdJosephd Member
    edited August 2018

    @FHR said:

    Josephd said: A Bucket is 8MB of RAM allocation.

    Can you tell me how you want to squeeze 4000 buckets on a 32GB server then?

    You are correct, that was a typo on my part, and will fix my post on that.

    Server RAM size:

    16GB RAM = 1000 max recommended buckets

    32GB RAM = 2000 max recommended buckets

    64GB RAM = 4000 max recommended buckets

    128GB RAM = 8,000 max recommended buckets

    @willie said:
    This thread is getting reasonable reception from members so I guess ok, but I have to say it comes across as a bit spammy. And the questions and objections seem well taken. Conventional wisdom about Wordpress these days is that the bad slowdowns come from overuse of poorly written plugins, but Wordpress can be responsive with careful configuration and plenty of sites do that.

    Also, memcached was what, a 2008 thing, to bypass HDD latency before SSD was everywhere? So that 1.5s to 300ms speedup on an SSD system makes me suspicious of the mysql config and stuff like that.

    All of our lab tests were on full vanilla stack installs, CentOS, CloudLinux, cPanel, Default EasyApache profile with PHP 5.7.

    As stated in our Q&A, pulling objects from main memory references are still 20x faster than pulling straight from SSD.

    Litespeed it seemed to me (maybe I'm wrong) addresses a different issue, which is to support apache-style configuration files (.htaccess) while keeping an nginx-like concurrency strategy. So it's more about features than performance.

    Finally if I were running a site whose performance mattered, it wouldn't occur to me to use shared hosting in the first place. I do use shared hosting myself, but only for some low traffic personal pages.

    We work along side any web server, including Litespeed.

  • HBAndreiHBAndrei Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    I believe that the imposed 'minimum MSRP' is a very bad approach to selling such a product, and your reasoning for implementing it doesn't make too much sense.

    If I understand it right, you're forcing your clients to sell 1 Bucket of 8MB of RAM for at least $1/mo... and that would be just to cover your licensing fees, without them turning any profit. If we take your example of a server with 32GB of RAM, having 4k Buckets, then you're expecting a $4k/mo licensing fees from that one server?

    My personal opinion is that your product would have a better selling chance with a flat fee per server, like cPanel, CloudLinux, Imunify360, etc... a fee that'd be nowhere near $4k/mo/server.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  • williewillie Member
    edited August 2018

    Josephd said:

    All of our lab tests were on full vanilla stack installs, CentOS, CloudLinux, cPanel, Default EasyApache profile with PHP 5.7. ... As stated in our Q&A, pulling objects from main memory references are still 20x faster than pulling straight from SSD.

    Sure but 1) MySQL makes good use of ram caching itself, so I'd need to know the MySQL configuration as mentioned. Repeated page loads should result in MySQL queries serving from ram without touching the SSD. 2) a decent SSD subsystem on a hosting server these days has >50k iops (probably a lot more) so even if a page load does 100 disk operations (which is way too many!) that's still just 0.002 seconds, so I still don't see 1.5s of load time unless the server itself is extremely overloaded. In the HDD era the disk ops would have mattered a lot more.

    This test would be more believable if you can supply a complete copyable setup allowing us to reproduce it. Also HBAndrei's comment about pricing seems important. I hadn't looked at your numbers carefully: your cache buckets are just 8MB? Are we back in the 1990s already?

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