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Linode announces block storage

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  • Can someone explain why block storage is so much better than NFS?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @willie said:
    Can someone explain why block storage is so much better than NFS?

    For one: Try to add a /home2 directory to cPanel for new accounts on NFS.

    I'm sure there are other cases of software that doesn't treat what the OS sees as a network mount similarly to how it would treat a mount that appears, to the OS, to be an attached hard drive.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    willie said: Can someone explain why block storage is so much better than NFS?

    It actually works as intended.

    root can be root without all that squashiness.

    There's no futzing with exports.

    You can actually use filesystem features and not just lowest common denominator.

    You can actually use the -p flag of cp, tar, etc. without it being silently ignored.

    Your rm -rf won't fail because NFS won't let you unlink some .nfsXXXXX you didn't create.

    You can boot off block storage.

    You can mkfs block storage.

    You can run, swim, and shower in block storage - it's like your very own hair!

    Etc. nfs is a fine idea, poorly implemented but not as bad as other things. I mean, most things in IT are fine ideas that are poorly implemented...including block storage.

    Practically speaking, in public clouds, if you want NFS, you're going to be creating your own VM and running it as your own NFS server. Double the price, double the work. OTOH you can get block storage without having to admin the block storage server, so that's much more attractive.

  • msg7086msg7086 Member
    edited February 2018

    @willie said:
    Can someone explain why block storage is so much better than NFS?

    NFS works like a file storage service (like FTP etc) while block storage appears like just bunch of disks.

    It's not "much better", it's just difference use cases. You definitely want NFS if you want to share files. You'll have to go block storage if you want to install your OS off that drive.

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  • @jarland said:

    @maldovia said:
    is this a meme, $100 per TB? lmfao. S3 is like 4x cheaper

    I guess that settles that. No one could possibly want locally mounted redundant block storage when remote object storage exists (with bandwidth fees).

    Heck, why even have local boot drives? Just mount them from across the world it's cheaper.

    :P

    not arguing it as an alternative, just saying Amazon sells storage 4x cheaper and Linode is charging out the ass.

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  • https://aws.amazon.com/ebs/pricing/ they do have 2.5 cent ("cold hdd") block storage. No idea about redundancy.

    If a provider offers high performance expensive storage, that's great, but they're not a full-service provider unless they also have lower performance cheap storage. Looks like Amazon has both, for some definition of cheap.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Janevski said:

    @MikePT said:
    $10 USD for 100GB, seems pretty expensive. 100 USD for 1TB, that's crazy.

    You'll buy the drive for that price each month, instead of renting it.

    Actually, that's enough for a 3TB/4TB HDD here in Portugal. <.<
    At least 3TB, brand new.

  • lukehebb said: Sure, it's SSD but for 99% of the market that's not necessary

    In Linode's case it sounds like it's HDD and still .10/GB. :(.

  • @willie said:

    lukehebb said: Sure, it's SSD but for 99% of the market that's not necessary

    In Linode's case it sounds like it's HDD and still .10/GB. :(.

    Well that's really dumb. Definitely sticking with DigitalOcean / OVH

  • Yes, they state it is NVMe/HDD and when I reached out on Twitter they responded "You'll see performance up to 150MB/s and up to 5K IOPS."

    If DO and others with a pure SSD solution can do better then it's a bit disappointing price wise.

  • 150 MB/s fast enough for most use case.

    a bit disappointed with pricing, but I only need 20 GB more still cheaper than get another box tho

  • file said: NVMe... 5K IOPS

    NVMe running on an IDE interface?

  • As it's a shared resource it's probably an imposed limit to make things fair.

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  • @Aidan said:

    NVMe running on an IDE interface?

    I thought they use tiered storage.

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