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  • good stuff - got one in LA a few minutes ago. Have to reinstall OS before the 1 TB shows up. Always enjoy working with their service, nice to get a deal on it too.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Ponury_Typ said:
    @Abdullah how much bandwidth on these puppies?

    It's basically the STOR 250 plan (https://hosthatch.com/storage-vps) upgraded to 1 TB storage and 2 TB bandwidth.

    Thanked by 1vimalware
  • @Abdullah said:

    @Ponury_Typ said:
    @Abdullah how much bandwidth on these puppies?

    It's basically the STOR 250 plan (https://hosthatch.com/storage-vps) upgraded to 1 TB storage and 2 TB bandwidth.

    Do you have more bonus if pay yearly?

    Thanked by 1v3ng
  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @ferri said:
    Do you have more bonus if pay yearly?

    Yes, you will get 10% off.

    Thanked by 2vimalware ucxo
  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    @Abdullah said:
    It's basically the STOR 250 plan (https://hosthatch.com/storage-vps) upgraded to 1 TB storage and 2 TB bandwidth.

    Only 512 MB RAM per 1 TB storage, or maybe a chance to get a little bit more headroom for caching?
    The 2 GB RAM per 1 TB storage with ZXHost felt nice and smooth.

  • FalzoFalzo Member
    edited November 2017

    oh lord. going to be an expensive BF... need to order from @Abdullah and just got notified that @UltraVPS is going to fulfill my request:

    @Falzo said:
    @UltraVPS oh please do something like a 1C/1G/2TB storage special on BF, 6month term should be fine, suggested price 10€ ;-)

    with their upcoming BF specials: https://www.ultravps.eu/en/?pdid=OB595E46555DO6331C64 (shameless aff ;-))

    they include two storage plans and the same very good yearly deals from last year... if I am not mistaken storage is only available in NL, the others should be available in their US and GER locations too.
    also prices include german VAT and afaik they deduct it for people outside europe, so it might become even cheaper ;-)

    (edit: only available from friday on)

  • ebonyebony Member
    edited November 2017

    @Abdullah said:

    @daffy said:
    I also went with @Abdullah's upgrade offer and a reboot and resize later I've got 1TB for 6€ /month. Quite happy :)

    Sounds good! Let me know if you run into any issues :)

    Thank you everyone for the interest! I think all the PMs I got are set up now. For those interested, the process is: sign up/login to manage.hosthatch.com, deposit $18 USD and open a ticket with sales mentioning the promotion and location you want.

    great deal i have opened a ticket and deposit funds!

    Thanked by 1hosthatch
  • @Falzo is that KVM or OpenVZ?

  • @Golbinex said:
    @Falzo is that KVM or OpenVZ?

    it's all KVM...

    Thanked by 2Golbinex cece
  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @dfroe said:
    Only 512 MB RAM per 1 TB storage, or maybe a chance to get a little bit more headroom for caching?
    The 2 GB RAM per 1 TB storage with ZXHost felt nice and smooth.

    We can do 1 GB RAM if you pay yearly (only in Stockholm and Amsterdam). So you would end up getting 10% off + 512 MB more RAM.

    Thanked by 2vimalware ucxo
  • @Abdullah said:

    @dfroe said:
    Only 512 MB RAM per 1 TB storage, or maybe a chance to get a little bit more headroom for caching?
    The 2 GB RAM per 1 TB storage with ZXHost felt nice and smooth.

    We can do 1 GB RAM if you pay yearly (only in Stockholm and Amsterdam). So you would end up getting 10% off + 512 MB more RAM.

    Got my Stockholm server couple of hours ago, can you sort me out with this if I create a ticket? Thanks

    Ps. Created ticket, got server within minutes. Great stuff :)

    Thanked by 1hosthatch
  • Ultravps.eu is also "redundant ZFS storage with Enterprise-grade SAS or SSD" drives

    Thanked by 2Falzo vimalware
  • GolbinexGolbinex Member
    edited November 2017

    @Falzo nice, it is going to be my next VPS if zxhost storage plans will be cancelled and better offer won't show up

  • @Abdullah thanks, opened ticket and now waiting.

    Thanked by 1hosthatch
  • @Golbinex said:
    @Falzo nice, it is going to be my next VPS if zxhost storage plans will be cancelled and better offer won't show up

    agreed especially the 2TB is ~8,40€ without VAT and even redundant storage as @Butters mentioned. so I'd rather go with that then single disk/100mbps kimsufi ;-)

  • @Falzo 750 GB is enough for me, I only hope they won't have problems like ZXHost, I would never host any production stuff on lowend servers, but I still wouldn't want to lose what I have there.

  • @Golbinex said:
    @Falzo 750 GB is enough for me, I only hope they won't have problems like ZXHost, I would never host any production stuff on lowend servers, but I still wouldn't want to lose what I have there.

    Ultravps.eu is part of Bradler & Krantz GmbH & Co. KG like providerservice.com or providerdienste.de

    they do their business since 1999, Rammstein.de is one of their customers and also parts of tipicos infrastructure

  • @Butters said:

    @Golbinex said:
    @Falzo 750 GB is enough for me, I only hope they won't have problems like ZXHost, I would never host any production stuff on lowend servers, but I still wouldn't want to lose what I have there.

    Ultravps.eu is part of Bradler & Krantz GmbH & Co. KG like providerservice.com or providerdienste.de

    they do their business since 1999, Rammstein.de is one of their customers and also parts of tipicos infrastructure

    It just makes sense that the longest lasting hosts still have public dildo displays somewhere, only a few steps away.

  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    So it's gonna be HostHatch 1TB HDD, 1GB RAM at around 5 EUR/month yearly vs. UltraVPS 2TB HDD, 2GB RAM, 10 EUR/month half-yearly.

    Not easy to decide. Generally I'd tend to UltraVPS based on very good experience.

    However it looks like HostHatch has the bigger pipes. At least when pulling from a Clouvider VPS. Both have similiar routing via NTT to Clouvider.

    # wget -O /dev/null -4 'http://lg.ams.hosthatch.com/100MB.test'
    --2017-11-21 17:16:07--  http://lg.ams.hosthatch.com/100MB.test
    Resolving lg.ams.hosthatch.com (lg.ams.hosthatch.com)... 31.220.6.30
    Connecting to lg.ams.hosthatch.com (lg.ams.hosthatch.com)|31.220.6.30|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: '/dev/null'
    2017-11-21 17:16:08 (99.7 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]
    # wget -O /dev/null -4 'http://lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu/100MB.test'
    --2017-11-21 17:16:20--  http://lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu/100MB.test
    Resolving lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu (lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu)... 185.45.112.15
    Connecting to lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu (lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu)|185.45.112.15|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: '/dev/null'
    2017-11-21 17:16:27 (15.4 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]
    

    But doing the same test from KAMP tells a completely different story.

    # wget -O /dev/null -4 'http://lg.ams.hosthatch.com/100MB.test'
    --2017-11-21 17:24:02--  http://lg.ams.hosthatch.com/100MB.test
    Resolving lg.ams.hosthatch.com (lg.ams.hosthatch.com)... 31.220.6.30
    Connecting to lg.ams.hosthatch.com (lg.ams.hosthatch.com)|31.220.6.30|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: '/dev/null'
    2017-11-21 17:24:16 (6.74 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]
    # wget -O /dev/null -4 'http://lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu/100MB.test'
    --2017-11-21 17:23:54--  http://lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu/100MB.test
    Resolving lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu (lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu)... 185.45.112.15
    Connecting to lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu (lg.ams.nl.ultravps.eu)|185.45.112.15|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: '/dev/null'
    2017-11-21 17:23:57 (33.7 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]
    

    However from home VDSL links (Deutsche Telekom as well as Telefonica/O2) I can get full 50 Mbps from both without any bottlenecks. Not easy to prepare for this year's BF. :)

    Thanked by 3uptime hosthatch ucxo
  • @Golbinex said:
    @Falzo 750 GB is enough for me, I only hope they won't have problems like ZXHost, I would never host any production stuff on lowend servers, but I still wouldn't want to lose what I have there.

    I wouldn't consider them lowend. I do host production stuff there, though storage is going to be used to hold only backups anyway... am a customer for more than 3 years now, haven't had any issues so far, never needed their support.

  • FalzoFalzo Member
    edited November 2017

    @dfroe said:

    just buy both (so do I) - one can never have enough storage ;-)

    Thanked by 1hosthatch
  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @cez said:
    Got my Stockholm server couple of hours ago, can you sort me out with this if I create a ticket? Thanks

    Yes, please ticket in and I'll get this taken care of.

    We can also combine two of these plans if you want (and you get the extra RAM + 10% discount on yearly)

    Thanked by 2vimalware cez
  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    @Abdullah said:
    We can also combine two of these plans if you want (and you get the extra RAM + 10% discount on yearly)

    Hm, so on an annual plan we have 1 vCPU, 1 TB HDD, 1 GB RAM, 2 TB BW, 1 IPv4 at 54 USD yearly.

    Combining two of them would mean 2 vCPU, 2 TB HDD, 2 GB RAM, 4 TB BW, 2 IPv4 at 108 USD yearly?

    This indeed could be an tempting option outperforming UltraVPS on paper. At least after UltraVPS declined to combine two BF packages.

    What are the specs of your servers? With UltraVPS we get ECC memory and redundant checksummed ZFS storage, probably locally attached SAS. How does this compare to your setup in AMS?

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited November 2017

    @dfroe said:>
    Hm, so on an annual plan we have 1 vCPU, 1 TB HDD, 1 GB RAM, 2 TB BW, 1 IPv4 at 54 USD yearly.

    Combining two of them would mean 2 vCPU, 2 TB HDD, 2 GB RAM, 4 TB BW, 2 IPv4 at 108 USD yearly?

    This indeed could be an tempting option outperforming UltraVPS on paper. At least after UltraVPS declined to combine two BF packages.

    What are the specs of your servers? With UltraVPS we get ECC memory and redundant checksummed ZFS storage, probably locally attached SAS. How does this compare to your setup in AMS?

    It will be $64.8 USD yearly with 10% off and 2x that for the combined plan.

    We run RAID50 on SATA HDDs for storage nodes, so probably not as good as SAS with SSD cache. But yes, it's ECC memory.

  • FalzoFalzo Member
    edited November 2017

    might be not so important on storage at all but I couldn't resist...

    geekbench: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4955583

    download speeds:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CPU model            : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v3 @ 2.40GHz
    Number of cores      : 1
    CPU frequency        : 2399.956 MHz
    Total amount of ram  : 494 MB
    Total amount of swap : 511 MB
    System uptime        : 0days, 0:12:41
    Load average         : 0,00, 0,02, 0,00
    OS                   : Debian GNU/Linux 8
    Arch                 : x86_64 (64 Bit)
    Kernel               : 3.16.0-4-amd64
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Node Name           IPv4 address        Download Speed
    CacheFly            205.234.175.175     170MB/s
    Linode, Tokyo, JP       106.187.96.148      6,74MB/s
    DO, Bangalore, IN       139.59.44.249       9,85MB/s
    Softlayer, Chennai, IN      169.38.65.84        7,17MB/s
    Vultr, Singapore, SG        45.32.100.168       8,35MB/s
    DO, Singapore, SG       128.199.210.182     6,68MB/s
    Linode, Singapore, SG       139.162.23.4        8,25MB/s
    Softlayer, Singapore, SG    119.81.28.170       7,26MB/s
    Leaseweb, Singapore, SG     103.254.153.18      8,26MB/s
    Softlayer, HongKong, CN     119.81.130.170      5,13MB/s
    Leaseweb, HongKong, CN      43.249.36.49        5,32MB/s
    Vultr, Sydney, AUS      108.61.212.117      5,39MB/s
    Softlayer, Sydney, AUS      168.1.1.212     3,34MB/s
    Softlayer, Melbourne, AUS   168.1.65.244        4,88MB/s
    Tele2, Gothenberg, SE       90.130.74.151       5,90MB/s
    Tele2, Kista, SE        90.130.74.149       19,6MB/s
    Softlayer, Milan, IT        159.122.128.84      34,4MB/s
    Prometeus, Milan, IT        37.247.53.10        6,06MB/s
    Tele2, Riga, LV     90.130.74.113       17,9MB/s
    Tele2, Vilnius, LT      90.130.74.117       15,9MB/s
    Server.LU, Luxembourg, LU   94.242.192.2        4,95MB/s
    Tele2, Frankfurt, DE        90.130.74.155       74,7MB/s
    Vultr, Frankfurt, DE        108.61.210.117      65,1MB/s
    Linode, Frankfurt, DE       139.162.130.8       137MB/s
    Softlayer, Frankfurt, DE    159.122.69.4        50,0MB/s
    Leaseweb, Frankfurt, DE     37.58.58.140        32,6MB/s
    DO, Frankfurt, DE       46.101.201.140      123MB/s
    Vultr, Paris, FR        108.61.209.127      50,2MB/s
    OVH, Gravelines, FR     5.196.90.200        20,5MB/s
    OVH, Strasbourg, FR     5.135.128.81        14,0MB/s
    OVH, Roubaix, FR        188.165.12.106      66,9MB/s
    Online.Net, Paris, FR       62.210.18.40        40,2MB/s
    Tele2, Amsterdam, NL        90.130.74.153       39,1MB/s
    Vultr, Amsterdam, NL        108.61.198.102      66,8MB/s
    DO 2, Amsterdam, NL     146.185.152.145     67,9MB/s
    DO 3, Amsterdam, NL     178.62.219.145      72,2MB/s
    Leaseweb, Amsterdam, NL     5.79.108.33     62,4MB/s
    i3d, Amsterdam, NL      213.163.76.200      1,42MB/s
    Vultr, London, UK       108.61.196.101      64,3MB/s
    DO, London, UK      188.166.152.227     162MB/s
    Linode, London, UK      176.58.107.39       158MB/s
    Softlayer, London, UK       5.10.97.132     90,8MB/s
    Softlayer, Mexico, MX       169.57.4.116        6,53MB/s
    Softlayer, Brazil, BR       169.57.128.148      5,01MB/s
    DO 1, NYC, USA      67.205.188.39       17,0MB/s
    DO 2, NYC, USA      162.243.9.77        17,1MB/s
    DO 3, NYC, USA      138.197.20.252      20,0MB/s
    Vultr, New Jersey, USA      108.61.149.182      18,5MB/s
    Linode, Newark, USA     50.116.57.237       19,9MB/s
    Vultr, Illinois, USA        107.191.51.12       16,4MB/s
    Vultr, Atlanta, USA     108.61.193.166      17,4MB/s
    Linode, Atlanta, USA        50.116.39.117       15,6MB/s
    Vultr, Miami, USA       104.156.244.232     13,8MB/s
    Vultr, Washington, USA      108.61.194.105      10,7MB/s
    Softlayer, Seattle, USA     67.228.112.250      8,84MB/s
    Leaseweb, Washington, USA   207.244.94.80       14,4MB/s
    Vultr, Dallas, USA      108.61.224.175      12,8MB/s
    Linode, Dallas, USA     50.116.25.154       12,2MB/s
    Softlayer, Dallas, USA      173.192.68.18       11,1MB/s
    Leaseweb, Dallas, USA       209.58.153.1        12,0MB/s
    Vultr, Los Angeles, USA     108.61.219.200      11,0MB/s
    DO, San Francisco, USA      138.68.237.46       10,6MB/s
    DO, San Francisco, USA      192.241.209.37      10,5MB/s
    Linode, Fremont, USA        50.116.14.9     5,42MB/s
    Leaseweb, San Francisco, USA    209.58.135.187      9,46MB/s
    DO, Toronto, CA     138.197.135.163     17,1MB/s
    OVH, Beauharnois, CA        192.99.19.165       2,02MB/s
    EastLink, Canada, CA        24.222.0.194        1,22MB/s
    Softlayer, Montreal, CA     169.54.124.180      10,7MB/s
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    I/O speed(1st run) : 185 MB/s
    I/O speed(2nd run) : 327 MB/s
    I/O speed(3rd run) : 482 MB/s
    Average I/O speed  : 331.333 MB/s
    

    ioping:

    # ioping -c 10 .
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=1 time=334.2 us (warmup)
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=2 time=329.0 us
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=3 time=295.2 us
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=4 time=359.9 us
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=5 time=184.4 us
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=6 time=7.94 ms
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=7 time=291.1 us (fast)
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=8 time=383.6 us (fast)
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=9 time=234.5 us (fast)
    4 KiB  (ext4 /dev/vda3): request=10 time=406.0 us (fast)
    
    --- . (ext4 /dev/vda3) ioping statistics ---
    9 requests completed in 10.4 ms, 36 KiB read, 863 iops, 3.37 MiB/s
    generated 10 requests in 9.00 s, 40 KiB, 1 iops, 4.44 KiB/s
    min/avg/max/mdev = 184.4 us / 1.16 ms / 7.94 ms / 2.40 ms
    

    also the client area/control panel is eye candy... well done!

    Thanked by 1hosthatch
  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    Falzo said: so no need for anyone else to spam overpriced shit anymore - even ElExpenso @MikePT would have been cheaper with his 500GB at $7 ;-)

    Can definitely do something like that, yeah. Just want to make sure we'll be in the business in the next years... :-)

  • @Abdullah said:

    @dfroe said:
    Only 512 MB RAM per 1 TB storage, or maybe a chance to get a little bit more headroom for caching?
    The 2 GB RAM per 1 TB storage with ZXHost felt nice and smooth.

    We can do 1 GB RAM if you pay yearly (only in Stockholm and Amsterdam). So you would end up getting 10% off + 512 MB more RAM.

    Instead getting more ram, can you make it 2 core for yearly?

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @ferri said:

    Instead getting more ram, can you make it 2 core for yearly?

    Yeah, we can do either the RAM or the 2 cores, not a problem.

    Thanked by 1ferri
  • All right, I am going to try as well :)
    invoice 117905 ticket #222922

    Thanks.

    @Abdullah said:
    Yeah, we can do either the RAM or the 2 cores, not a problem.

    Thanked by 1hosthatch
  • ferriferri Member
    edited November 2017

    btw need suggestion from all of you guys,

    for storage only and rsync with so many files (mostly images), do you prefer 2 core 512 RAM or 1 core 1024 RAM?

    I've tried to running rsync with option like this, but still eat my CPU :|

    /usr/bin/nice -n 19 /usr/bin/ionice -c2 -n7 \
        rsync -aHAXxv --numeric-ids --delete --progress -e "ssh -T -o Compression=no -x" \
        <user>@<host>:<path> <local-path>
    

    Thanks

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