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Lots of hosts don't, just look at the e-mail spam whatnot.
Don't be a troll, sounds like a failure to read the TOS or privacy statement.
That's a silly reason. What did you expect? They have no obligation to delete your personal details on request.
In the EU in general customers have the
right to be informed (upon request) about personal (private or not) data concerning them
right to object against its usage (it may end up with a termination of the contract ipso jure)
right of access
right to amend and delete data concerning them
and eventually the so-much discussed droit d’oubli recently dubbed as nothing more than a "right to erasure" in the GDPR
If you read Scaleway's ToS you'll unsurprisingly see
This has to be integrated with general "data retention" laws, which put some burdens on all EU operators, generally obliged to store 1 year worth of data (State laws may be slightly different). Different rules (and a distinction between "data" and "metadata") are considered for intelligence agencies in the Intelligence Act and in general for "pseudonymized" data, used for statistical purposes or to handle abuses.
It works, i am satisfied with it, i don't know if their NAT is brilliant or utter insanity, i don't care that they keep my data. I know i should have the right to delete, but technically, those systems have logs and backups which are kept for long periods of time, so even deleted is not deleted and once on the internet it's public domain.
You should always have the right to request deletion of your personal data after a period of time. Some exceptions are understandable or tolerable but frankly if Google, Facebook, Etc. Allow for data deletion I feel a webhost should also, even if it requires a period of retention first.
But then again, depends on what those personal details may be, I think everyone assumed its your name, address, phone, email, maybe even credit card info? What if personal details were his hair color, eye color, favorite foods, favorite music, favorite clothes, etc. OR what if personal details were what porn sites he visited!?! Does it make a difference? Bottom line, should still read the TOS and/or Privacy Policy!
You have to keep the data for tax purposes. Otherwise I open a host, i declare i had 100k customers each paying 100 dollars in bitcoins and 10 mil have been transformed in legit money.
It does not work that way.
The lastest 15 year old that thinks the right of privacy is real.
Invoices and their upkeeping are a different scenario, there's a whole market for outsourcing their storing according the last bureaucratic definition of "safe" while formally respecting users' "personal" data rights on live and day-to-day systems. Big companies also have to keep in some States a registry about their activity concerning user's personal data (sort of loophole, but still). In the end, as for the "cookie law", operators have some formal burdens to satisfy whilst there's no practical way to double-check (for users and enforcement) that any privacy is systematically guaranteed as advertised. Still some States have administrative "inspection bodies" who will respond if a user whines, and they generate some money from fines, sort of "sudden death" taxes (some small companies are financially wiped out) if the company didn't previously obtain from a third party a peculiar certification. The total number of inspections they can perform in a year is really limited. Spamming using old and not deleted data, despite user's express request for data removal, is anyway asking for troubles.
Even we don't delete until you asked our admin team to remove all your information our dashboard
I always read scale-away, stay-away, don't know why.
That's the rapper in you.
scale-away / stay-away / don't know why / came here to cry.
I have no problem with Scaleway, I am quite happy with their services, except for lack of IPv6, but that's another topic.
It looks like you are the real
ripperrapper talent ;-)I'm guessing we'll never see the OP again now that he's raged, but...what data are we referring to?
You better prep for that storm if you sign that form!
Scaleway? Hah! More like Just Stay Away!
You give them your digits- they're gonna ring!
Even if you're bangin your sweet little thing!
If you just wanted a cheap VPS
It ain't worth the hassle- or the mess
Just do what LET member wwee does- bitch and moan
Rather than sending a ticket, so history has shown.
Yeah BOYEEEEE!
Who?
I mean, as mentioned before, there's GDPR... Any company worth their salt will comply with GDPR rulings
Come on guys. They don't not delete it.. they sell it.
@WSS your style reminds me of good old Public Enemy...
Burn Buffalo burn, I smell a riot /
Goin' on / first they're guilty now they're gone /
Yeah I'll check out a dedi /
But it'll take an IPv6 one to move me
Get me the hell away from this IP /
All this scam and spam are beneath me /
'Cause all I hear about is shots ringin' out /
So I rather kick some slang out
The only rights we have are the ones we have successfully fought for.
Nothing comes for granted, for free - that's a misconception.
I was hoping to find a reason I should never use Scaleway... I hate clickbait.
you only think you have them while you are being allowed to perpetuate that illusion, also, no one here is old enough to have fought for anything.
Yes and no. Yes they need the data for tax (and other legal) purposes - but - No they are neither free to keep them eternally nor to do with those data as they please. Moreover they are bound to protect those data.
The mentioned eu laws in a way work like a built in TOS, i.e. those data may only used for the purpose for which they were given (typ. in the context of some kind of business relationship) and within the frame of the relevant laws.
In particular
spam"marketing email" is never legal unless expressly opted in. A simple "by clicking 'buy' you agree to also ... (become the victim of spam until you die plus another 10 years)" is not legally OK.Excuse me?
You are excused.
Keep =/= use. The data only serves in the relationship with the customer, as for how long, well, as long as the law requires, i believe 10 years.