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What is the best DC in the US for South America?
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What is the best DC in the US for South America?

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  • Texas / Miami

  • Host4GeeksHost4Geeks Member, Host Rep

    Verizon - NAP of the Americas.

  • Level 3 just build a facility in Columbia, good luck on your next question "is there LEB pricing there bro?"

  • smansman Member
    edited July 2013

    Brazil might get better to NY if you look at the submarine cable map. A lot of the Miami hops go through the Carribean which is an extra hop. Depends on the capacity of the cables too. Northern South America and Central America would probably be better to Miami.
    http://submarine-cable-map-2013.telegeography.com/

  • Peer1 for me.

  • awsonawson Member

    Amazon Northern Virginia

  • jimpopjimpop Member

    Submarine cable maps don't show peering. Peering is the pertinent thing to understand when determining suitability for connectivity from a given point. FWIW, you can adequately cover most of BR from Miami (~100ms). That said (due to peering), MOST of South America will route through the USA in order to reach Brazil.

  • gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2013

    First of all you should think about South America as about the region bigger than USA. There are few networking projects connecting west and east part of South and Central America. In the west part you have Chile, Peru and other (and it should be consider as seperate region) and on the east part you have Brazil and Argentina. What's interesting Argentina is cheaper than Brazil and have better connectivity. In general it's cheaper to buy gold than bandwidth in South America - in Argentina they quoted us 35USD per 1Mbps and in Brazil 70USD per 1Mbps. If you don't belive take a look at Emmex - the offer 100Mbps servers for 580USD for E3-1240V2 with 4GB of RAM and 2 x 500GB RAID 1, still they are single homed GVT. In Argentina you can get entry level dedi with 2Mbps link for ~150USD. Beside that please remember that it's almost impossible to import hardware to Brazil or Argentina.

    And regarding op question - NAP @ Miami for Central America and east South America

  • ColoHouse in Miami has excellent connectivity to South America, Central America, and the Caribbean.

    Brazil might get better to NY if you look at the submarine cable map.

    NYC (111 8th Ave DC) to Brazil

    2  xe-1-2-0.mpr1.lga243.us.above.net (208.184.35.177)  10.561 ms  10.550 ms  10.533 ms
     3  xe-2-3-0.cr2.lga5.us.above.net (64.125.27.118)  23.397 ms  23.388 ms  23.373 ms
     4  xe-0-0-1.er4.lga5.us.above.net (64.125.24.169)  0.363 ms  0.587 ms  0.576 ms
     5  L3-Zayo.lga5.us.above.net (64.125.13.30)  23.797 ms  23.787 ms  23.771 ms
     6  ae-1-60.edge4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.155.20)  26.053 ms ae-3-80.edge4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.155.146)  0.486 ms ae-4-90.edge4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.155.210)  0.460 ms
     7  4.68.111.242 (4.68.111.242)  0.911 ms  0.662 ms 64.215.195.213 (64.215.195.213)  0.966 ms
     8  64.214.59.98 (64.214.59.98)  139.592 ms  131.346 ms  131.652 ms
     9  * * *
    10  * * *
    11  * * *
    12  67.171.126.177.static.sp2.alog.com.br (177.126.171.67)  135.088 ms  126.482 ms  126.241 ms
    13  187.45.185.2.static.dimenoc.com (187.45.185.2)  126.184 ms  126.645 ms  134.370 ms
    14  187.45.185.3.static.dimenoc.com (187.45.185.3)  131.413 ms  139.412 ms  139.494 ms

    Miami (ColoHouse DC) to Brazil

    2  r2.mia1.us.netrouting.net (208.76.55.226)  0.867 ms  0.936 ms  1.091 ms
     3  ethernet3-7.ar4.mia1.gblx.net (64.209.106.65)  0.967 ms  1.258 ms  1.537 ms
     4  ae1.scr3.MIA1.gblx.net (67.16.151.125)  1.319 ms  1.397 ms ae3-20G.scr4.MIA1.gblx.net (67.16.151.129)  1.045 ms
     5  ae0-100G.ar4.GRU1.gblx.net (67.16.148.6)  106.051 ms ae1-100G.ar4.GRU1.gblx.net (67.16.148.10)  106.327 ms  106.192 ms
     6  64.214.59.98 (64.214.59.98)  113.178 ms  113.356 ms  113.456 ms
     7  * * *
     8  * * *
     9  * * *
    10  67.171.126.177.static.sp2.alog.com.br (177.126.171.67)  108.652 ms  108.255 ms  108.660 ms
    11  187.45.185.2.static.dimenoc.com (187.45.185.2)  108.819 ms  108.698 ms  108.820 ms
    12  187.45.185.3.static.dimenoc.com (187.45.185.3)  109.753 ms  109.529 ms  109.771 ms
    
  • smansman Member

    @jimpop said:
    Submarine cable maps don't show peering. Peering is the pertinent thing to understand when determining suitability for connectivity from a given point. FWIW, you can adequately cover most of BR from Miami (~100ms). That said (due to peering), MOST of South America will route through the USA in order to reach Brazil.

    If that is the case then I would think NY would be the place to be. There are some direct routes from South/Central/Carribean to NY but probably a lot better peering compared to Miami.

  • jimpopjimpop Member

    @sman said:
    If that is the case then I would think NY would be the place to be. There are some direct routes from South/Central/Carribean to NY but probably a lot better peering compared to Miami.

    Yet data, already provided by @DomainBop , demonstrates otherwise. ;-)

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2013

    I did an investigation regarding game servers for Brazil and found that Miami was the optimum location in the states. I also tested New York and Chicago.

    Miami > New York > Chicago

  • vmunichvmunich Member
    edited August 2013

    Just an update. You guys are testing datacenters connections. Home connections is another story.

    If you ping/traceroute dc => dc -- Servers in Miami get better results to Brazil
    If you ping/traceroute dc => home connection -- Servers in NYC (111 8th ave) get better results to Brazil.

    So if your target public is people with home connections, NYC > Miami > Chicago (btw regarding home connections, even Dallas is better than Chicago).

    Keep that in mind.

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2013

    interesting, I did testing on home connections and server connections (3 home connections, many server connections) and Miami was by far more stable (ping wasn't tested, testing was for disconnetions / stability).

    Note there could be a little location bias as all home connection testing participants where located within the same city as they where supplied as friends of the test requester.

  • This largely depends on your connection needs. SA has a bad networking as many providers backhaul to the US and do not interconnect a lot within SA. If you know where your target audience is, look for local datacenters with good connectivity to the ISPs your audience uses. If you target all of SA, the US locations might serve you better. Sad but true.

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