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  • WSSWSS Member

    @deadbeef said:

    @WSS said:

    @deadbeef said:

    @rm_ said:
    might just as well go with assl.loovit.net

    Apart from the "it might be revoked if outside the intended host use", is they any other reason not to?

    LE takes about half the time to setup?

    LE bundles your subdomains together on the cert, f I'm not mistaken. Which effectively means you can't have "private" subdomains with them.

    Do one request at a time. Renewal is still a single crontab.

  • deadbeefdeadbeef Member
    edited April 2017

    @WSS said:

    @deadbeef said:

    @WSS said:

    @deadbeef said:

    @rm_ said:
    might just as well go with assl.loovit.net

    Apart from the "it might be revoked if outside the intended host use", is they any other reason not to?

    LE takes about half the time to setup?

    LE bundles your subdomains together on the cert, f I'm not mistaken. Which effectively means you can't have "private" subdomains with them.

    Do one request at a time. Renewal is still a single crontab.

    Wait, aren't their logs public? If so, requesting one at a time doesn't mitigate this. Plus, due to the tools I'm using for orchestration, some either "optimize" the requests on renewal and others want 1-process-alive-all-the-time-per-request-until-renewal-etc. So, it's not always a crontab thing and it ends up too much hassle for no reason.

  • WSSWSS Member

    @deadbeef said:
    Wait, aren't their logs public? If so, requesting one at a time doesn't mitigate this. Plus, due to the tools I'm using for orchestration, some either "optimize" the requests on renewal and others want 1-process-alive-all-the-time-per-request-until-renewal-etc. So, it's not always a crontab thing.

    Yeah, the logs are public. I thought you just didn't want someone browsing the cert to see your other subdomains.

    You're going to have this cert lookup your domain's contact and you need to choose one of several possible for it to ack the request before you get the cert.

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  • FiddeFidde Member

    @alfinderau said:

    @rm_ said:
    [...] you might just as well go with assl.loovit.net

    Is this a serious company? The website loovit.net is more than fishy, it's a nearly empty site not providing any piece of information...

    Fixed that for you loovit.net is much nicer now =) Also, might register a company simply so that I can get a EV-cert for the site, all for that trust. Just need to read up on laws and stuff, gosh, I'll do that tomorrow instead ... :P

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  • jenkkijenkki Member
    edited April 2017

    Aluminat said: Wildcard or single subdomain/domain?

    Guess Wildcard for $2 will be impossible :)

  • alfinderau said: Is this a serious company? The website loovit.net is more than fishy

    It's not a company at all, it's a simple script set up by a LET member to let other members get the free wildcard certs that SingleHop gives out to its subscribers. They're not supposed to be used outside the SingleHop network but in practice this doesn't seem to be enforced very much. In other words, it's great to have free certs to play with, but I wouldn't do anything too serious with them, rely on them much, or make too much noise about their existence. I still very much Fidde's willingness to do this.

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  • moonmartinmoonmartin Member
    edited April 2017

    @sibaper said:

    moonmartin said: With LetsEncrypt, why would anyone bother with StarCom?

    • not stable enough for production, check their forum for complaint about rate limit. I've 10 sites using Letsecnrypt some renewal hit and miss. (at least on my case)

    I have no problems with renewals. Don't even bother checking them anymore. They are as reliable as any other cron job. Find a better script. I renew every month. If one renewal gets missed for some reason you still have 2 more shots at it. I don't think I have ever needed it.

    SolusVM built in script renews them every week.

  • jon617jon617 Veteran
    edited April 2017

    Startcom / StartSSL was a major headache for me. I used them to issue SSL certs for 14 domains, a bargain to pay for verification only and all certs were included at no extra cost. Worked fine since 2013, until ALL my SSL certs stopped working in Chrome and Firefox, without any warning from Startcom/StartSSL. Their "support" was pretty useless, often asking me to PAY for their temporary solution. They insisted all problems were temporary, to be patient for 1-2 months, but provided no details or evidence on actions they were taking. To the contrary, certificates they claimed would continue to work were also dis-trusted by Chrome and Firefox. I don't trust them. Either they were trying to mislead me, or had no idea what was going on. I also see a ycombinator thread about similar concerns about their business ethics.

    I would never do business with them again, even if it were free. Too stressful. It all went downhill when Chinese company Qihoo 360 bought them last year. Their Wikipedia page says they have a history of violating certificate issuance control, and fail to give proper notifications.

    I am using Let's Encrypt, ssl2buy, and gogetssl now.

  • I have a gandi certificate that was free for 1 year with a domain that I registered with them. But I'll switch to letsencrypt at the end of the year rather than pay for a renewal of the gandi cert.

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