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hell yeah! me too!
Is it a trout, though?
I have no clue about fish, is that a large trout?
Nope, nothing funny. Just some truth about your life, you never heard.
my heart is go on !!! still LOVE YOU !
Own view now called trolling, if you stupid kid, you just can't say any more.
If anything OVH will just put the VPS in rescue mode and say don't torrent copyrighted content again
but they don't use fraud record
And your delusional if you think anybody in the right mind is going to risk loosing money on chargebacks by skipping the screening process. I've always wondered how people can "Trust" people without knowing them, isn't trust something that is earned over time?
Not helps. MaxMind recognize legit orders as a fraud most times. Their fraud detection incorrect most time, you just trying to lost real buyers with this game.
I'm sure you have some evidence to back this up. Please share the evidence that >50% of MaxMind legit orders are incorrectly analyzed.
Please do so after you share the evidence that all LowEndTalk moderators are employees of DO and Vultr, as you've previously claimed.
Seems you have some homework to do.
I've seen no evidence of this. If Maxmind flags something, it's for a reason. We always follow up with clients flagged as fraud and 9/10 there's a reason the order was flagged.
Plus, please don't judge Maxminds product on your experience from one provider, it can be setup differently with higher or lower settings.
I dont think so, many times left me scratching my head unable to give an answer to the customer.
Things like 30-50% risk are at times drawn from non-obvious issues such as proxy, location, phone which I can check, but can't check what I don't know is the reason. It is rare, but it happens.
Also, Maxmind itself is not consistent, say a customer places a few orders in same conditions, if risk is about that level, some pass some not.
I would say one order in 100 is like that.
I would say there's a reason 100% of the time--you just might not always be able to tell what it is. Question is how often the reason is actual fraud, and how often it's a legitimate order that simply lit a false alarm for being out of the ordinary in some way. If there are too many false positives, that loses customers. This morning there was an active shooter alert at Idaho State U. because some guy was carrying a pool cue case. It doesn't make ISU look good.
@willie @Maounuque
I should be clearer I also didn't mean it's for a fraudulent reason, but a reason that can be answered by the customer should they choose to be honest and work with you.
Which it would be wonderful if the reason would be stated or obvious, which in rare cases is neither. I cannot ask something like, do you happen to know why maxmind flagged you with higher than average risk, but still let the order pass?
If "work with you" means "don't order through vpn" that's one thing. If it means "send photo ID and DNA sample" it's by no means dishonest for the customer to refuse.
wow, I expected drama on lowendtalk about our fraud screening, as it seems to us we get hit with payment attempts from one particular customer, tried 4 different cards and more than one attempt per card (probably guess of details) all of them declined by bank and payment gateway for unusual activity across the payment network.
How anyone can say that such customer is genuine and legit?
Because this is a crooked world.
Self interested people have no care about your well being, and have no mental capacity to draw the connection between quality of service and your ability to maintain a financially positive business while keeping abuse out.
We are a generation built on instant gratification, tomorrow be damned.
Fucking millennials.
Exactly as said
Just reply my own view based with my personal experience. nothing less, I don't need send proof etc. just my experience. We have thousands clients per year, only very few open a cases or request chargebacks. We accept non verified PayPal, etc. Risk a very low. In other side local bank system in some countries not allow refunds and chargebacks for complete purchases. So better to fix your local system avoid troubles instead call client scammer or abuser.
Interesting when some folks call chargeback shit then when got a troubles for self with purchase call and run very quick to their bank for action..
Understand that sometimes the fraud score system can be wrong, but such customer are willing to cooperate and the same as us, but some just can be bothered to do anything.
the same as us and such clients can't be bothered to verify their order or account, as they do also use fake details.
There's probably more fraud with the very cheapest services (i.e. LET), even though that seems illogical since people using stolen cards shouldn't have issues buying expensive stuff with them
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I was with a more enterprisey ($$$) service for a while and we didn't have significant fraud problems. The fraudders targeted LET hosts instead, I guess. Maybe the hosts here should raise their prices
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Shush! >:(
And loose 80% of clients
That I wonder also, but I guess it is because not only the credit cards are stolen, but also because there are other issues there which will not go through or not last in a seriously watched environment with dedicated staffers and such.
Spammers, attackers, malware hosters, child porn, religious, racist and other hate speech people consider they can host here until the chargebacks come from the card owner, then move to the next victim from the front page.
It must be the failure of people running these shows that attracts those "customers", besides, many small purchases on a card are more likely to pass unnoticed for a while, so they can keep their service on for longer.
Fake details and stolen cards go a long way to help hide from indolent authorities which will rather harass the host than running after the perpetrators.
I would give OVH a shot, often times when I'm downloading torrents I always see OVH or Kimsufi (KS uses separate name servers from OVH) coming up in the peers list, their VPS SSD 2 or VPS SSD 3 will work and can run windows by rebooting into recovery mode and restoring a dd image to the hard drive.
https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml