Scaleway New Cloud Servers for Intensive Workloads

mtsbatalha

Hello,

Seems that Scaleway today have announced cloud servers for intensive workloads.

Source:
https://blog.online.net/2017/02/07/scaleway-new-cloud-servers-for-intensive-workloads/

The cloud servers is available in:

https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/

The servers is available up to 120GB of RAM and 12 cores, starting at €0.18 per hour.

vfuse

Curious what kind of CPU is being used. It could be the xeon d1531 since they support 128gb of ram and 12 threads.

Edit: seems like it is the xeon 1531

vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 86
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1531 @ 2.20GHz
stepping    : 3
microcode   : 0x1
cpu MHz     : 2199.996
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 9
siblings    : 1
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 9
initial apicid  : 9
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch arat tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm rdseed adx smap xsaveopt
bugs        :
bogomips    : 4399.99
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

HBAndrei

The prices are quite appealing, but they seem to skip the entire middle range of cloud server specs/prices, going from 9.99eur straight to 89.99eur. Might give these a try nonetheless, if/when Amsterdam stock will be available again.

Mridul

The Prices are simply excellent.

DrFallen

Just saw this on their twitter account apparently there are upping their max vm range to 120GB RAM here's the blog post about it https://blog.online.net/2017/02/07/scaleway-new-cloud-servers-for-intensive-workloads/

mtsbatalha

@DrFallen I have posted this info in:

https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/105111/scaleway-new-cloud-servers-for-intensive-workloads

willie

Woo hoo! It let me spin up the 10 core, 60gb one right away! I can't afford a whole month of it but will play with it for a few hours. Let me know if you want any tests.

xrz

@willie pls speedtest

willie

/proc/cpuinfo for processor 0 (rest are the same, 10 listed):

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 86
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1531 @ 2.20GHz
stepping    : 3
microcode   : 0x1
cpu MHz     : 2199.994
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 0
siblings    : 1
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm rdseed adx smap xsaveopt arat
bugs        :
bogomips    : 4399.98
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

According to http://ark.intel.com/products/91203/Intel-Xeon-Processor-D-1531-9M-Cache-2_20-GHz this processor is supposed to have 6 cores and 12 threads. So it is a baremetal or a vps?

ehab

@willie said:

if you can encode a mp4 1080 to mkv 720 with a movie of 1:30 minute film or a cartoon in your case :P would be nice to know time estimate.

and your total costs. thanks in advance if you attempted such test.

willie

openssl speed rsa1024:

                  sign    verify    sign/s verify/s
rsa 1024 bits 0.000171s 0.000012s   5835.8  85565.0

With 10 threads:

                  sign    verify    sign/s verify/s
rsa 1024 bits 0.000030s 0.000002s  33146.0 494056.4

willie

ehab said: if you can encode a mp4 1080 to mkv 720 with a movie of 1:30 minute film or a cartoon in your case :P would be nice to know time estimate.

Give me a url (youtube ok) for a short film to encode and I'll run it, but I'd expect it to be similar to an E3 scaled by clock speed. The point of these servers is you get lots of cores, not fast single cores. But from the RSA test above, I think the 60GB box is a vps and I'm sharing the hardware with someone else who is also running benchmarks.

willie

Yes dup thread I guess. I'm running some benchmarks on the other thread.

DrFallen

Yeah I didn't see the other one sorry guys.. -_-

DrFallen

@willie said:
/proc/cpuinfo for processor 0 (rest are the same, 10 listed):

processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 6
model     : 86
model name    : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1531 @ 2.20GHz
stepping  : 3
microcode : 0x1
cpu MHz       : 2199.994
cache size    : 4096 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings  : 1
core id       : 0
cpu cores : 1
apicid        : 0
initial apicid    : 0
fpu       : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level   : 13
wp        : yes
flags     : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm rdseed adx smap xsaveopt arat
bugs      :
bogomips  : 4399.98
clflush size  : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

According to http://ark.intel.com/products/91203/Intel-Xeon-Processor-D-1531-9M-Cache-2_20-GHz this processor is supposed to have 6 cores and 12 threads. So it is a baremetal or a vps?

It's part of their VC1 range so it's a KVM. Only their C2 range are baremetal

ehab

willie, choose any 1080 you don't have to wait it out just an estimate. i will try to do the same with 2 cpu's and maybe report back here

willie

ehab said: willie, choose any 1080 you don't have to wait it out just an estimate.

I don't keep this stuff at my fingertips, please just pick one for me.

willie

I don't see the 700GB SSD, hmm. Just a normal 50GB volume. Maybe I have to mount it or something. I did see what looked like a bunch of volumes while booting up.

Multi-thread RSA speed test is about 1.3x my E3-1230v3 on signing and 1.16x on verify. Again I think I'm sharing the hardware with another cpu hog.

EDIT: actually maybe I'm getting close to the whole cpu, I keep forgetting this is a 6 core processor at slower clock than the E3. So paying 2x as much gets more ram and LSSD but not really more compute.

Also Scaleway prices based on monthly=500x hourly, when there are really about 720h/month, so this box is around 4.32 euros per day. Seems maybe attractive as a computing add-on for an overnight or 1-2 day task but if you do that often and don't need the big ram, you're better off with a monthly server.

vfuse

@willie said:
I don't see the 700GB SSD, hmm. Just a normal 50GB volume. Maybe I have to mount it or something. I did see what looked like a bunch of volumes while booting up.

Unfortunately it's the same LSSD as the other instances, so no raid. Server comes with several 150gb drives, you have to mount them yourself.

willie

vfuse said: Unfortunately it's the same LSSD as the other instances, so no raid. Server comes with several 150gb drives, you have to mount them yourself.

Several physical 150gb's? Raid sounds possible then. Or is it a big drive split into partitions?

How do you mount them? I see a bunch of /dev/nbd's and /dev/vd's but don't know what's what.

Makkesk8

@willie said:

vfuse said: Unfortunately it's the same LSSD as the other instances, so no raid. Server comes with several 150gb drives, you have to mount them yourself.

Several physical 150gb's? Raid sounds possible then. Or is it a big drive split into partitions?

How do you mount them? I see a bunch of /dev/nbd's and /dev/vd's but don't know what's what.

they should be /dev/nbd1 - 15 and they are partitions, And any raid is quite pointless since you don't know if it's on the same drive or not, And that resets everytime you go from local -> replicated storage. This is the only downside of scaleway tbh.

willie

Oh ok, nbd = network block device. I thought LSSD meant local physical disk. Thanks.

datanoise

It's interesting but what would be great is if they used the same CPU for their lower boxes (or had a range in between).

WHT

Guys can I install cpanel vps on this cloud? Its a server or vps?

willie

datanoise said:

It's interesting but what would be great is if they used the same CPU for their lower boxes (or had a range in between).

Not sure what you mean? This isn't a super cpu, it's looking a bit faster than my E3. An in between box would have this cpu and less memory imho. I'd like a bigger one with a D-1541 that has more cores.

Overall this offer is somewhat interesting but nothing to leap over, istm.

Falzo

Geekbench v4 please.

willie

Falzo said:

Geekbench v4 please.

Tell me how to do that? Where to download, how to install etc. Thanks.

I have another cpu bench running right now that will take a few minutes longer, then I can geekbench.

willie

WHT said:

Guys can I install cpanel vps on this cloud? Its a server or vps?

It's a very big vps, 60gb ram and 10 decently fast but not fantastic cpu threads. I expect you can install cpanel. But you have to pay a monthly license for cpanel, I thought. I think you can get a better server than this for what they charge per month. This server is mostly interesting if you only need it for some hours, up to a few days maybe.

willie

10 thread xz benchmark, 10 simultaneous compressions of same 5gb input file. On Scaleway:

real    43m22.060s
user    419m53.300s
sys 0m26.960s

On Hetzner i7:

real    42m55.667s
user    341m33.533s
sys 0m24.626s

Almost a wash. I wonder if the 120gb server might have the faster (8 core) D-1541 processor, though even that's not such a big jump.

I think the Atoms are a better deal for pure compute power if you have a reasonable way to split up your workload. If you have constant high computing requirements, you missed your chance to buy a bunch of cheap E3 promo servers last night, but there's always Hetzner.

Falzo

@willie said:

Falzo said:

Geekbench v4 please.

Tell me how to do that? Where to download, how to install etc. Thanks.

I have another cpu bench running right now that will take a few minutes longer, then I can geekbench.

Sorry have just been away...

for Geekbench you can just head over to primatelabs.com or download the linux version directly: http://cdn.primatelabs.com/Geekbench-4.0.4-Linux.tar.gz

Unpack change inside build.pulse/dist/Geekbench and run the geeknbench binary. Will run some tests upload the results and provide a url you can share ;-)

willie

Oh whoops, I've already shut down the server (had it 2 hours). Might spin one up again later (maybe even the 120GB) and try geekbench then.

I'm reasonably satisfied that the CPU of this server is in the same ballpark as a fast E3, and the network is the usual one from Scaleway. From the one file transfer I did (around 1GB from Hetzner) it did around 200mbit/s but seemed to be speeding up as it went along, so maybe a bigger file would have done better. I think I've gotten 1000mbit from Hetzner to an online.net E3 promo dedi.