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PCCW Issues

hawchawc Moderator, LIR

Hi all,

Anyone seeing issues with PCCWBTN now? I am getting 150ms from my house in London to their routers in London. Virgin (my ISP) uses PCCW to reach Psychz in LA. Normally I get 140ms and 4 bar RDP. Right now I have 300ms ping, and 1 bar RDP.

Anyone else experiencing similar issues? Their internal looking glass seems to point to issues:

Comments

  • ExpertVMExpertVM Member, Host Rep

    Log a case with Psychz and get them to escalate to PCCW. That will be faster.

    Also, what program you use for RDP which has the Bar?

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    I don't have any issues reaching PCCW London from neither of our upstreams, plus my home connection from Zen. This could potentially be Virgin Media related issue or something specific to their link.

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR

    Seems to be recovering. Issue seemed to be as soon as you actually tried to go anywhere over the network

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2016

    That's over Aorta or some direct link between PCCW and VM?

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR

    Clouvider said: That's over Aorta or some direct link between PCCW and VM?

    Direct link:

    7 14 ms * * tclo-ic-3-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.250.25.62] 8 * 114 ms 114 ms te7-5.br03.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167] 9 262 ms 263 ms 260 ms TenGE0-2-0-7.br03.lax05.pccwbtn.net [63.218.72.178] 10 * 259 ms 263 ms ae11.PCCW.lax.us.AS40676.net [23.238.223.9]

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR

    hawc said: 8 * 114 ms 114 ms te7-5.br03.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167]

    Interesting, that IP comes out to AS47872 Sofia Connect EOOD, not AS3491 Beyond The Network America, Inc. like the next hop does....

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @hawc said:

    Clouvider said: That's over Aorta or some direct link between PCCW and VM?

    Direct link:

    7 14 ms * * tclo-ic-3-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.250.25.62] 8 * 114 ms 114 ms te7-5.br03.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167] 9 262 ms 263 ms 260 ms TenGE0-2-0-7.br03.lax05.pccwbtn.net [63.218.72.178] 10 * 259 ms 263 ms ae11.PCCW.lax.us.AS40676.net [23.238.223.9]

    Potentially might be some sort of legacy peering relationship they have with VM, Aorta doesn't route to PCCW directly as per what I see. Either way, it's the first hop of PCCW that already has high latency, which could mean the issue is on either Virgin or PCCW end, or a carrier in between. Best bet would be to report to Virgin NOC and PCCW and see how it goes.

  • isn't LAX in LA?

  • J1021J1021 Member
    edited December 2016

    The latency in the screenshot looks fine. It shows 140ms at the first hop but that doesn't follow through to subsequent hops. 144ms from London to Los Angeles is fine.

    What you want to do is check latency from PCCW London using their LG to your home.

    Looking at your second trace from Virgin the issue looks to exist between Virgin and PCCW, potentially a saturated link.

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  • SpartanHostSpartanHost Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2016

    Here is a MTR now: http://pastebin.com/raw/hAzBayQF if it helps but you probably see it's already fine again on your end too although it looks like it's routing via Amsterdam now for me at least.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @SpartanHost said:
    Here is a MTR now: http://pastebin.com/raw/hAzBayQF if it helps but you probably see it's already fine again on your end too although it looks like it's routing via Amsterdam now for me at least.

    As per your mtr it seems the outgoing route is from London to Amsterdam PCCW instead of handing over to PCCW in London as in the OP example. Quite possibly they re-routed around the issue (or your area routes that way - not enough data).

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR

    It seems to all have gone back to normal, via London. Latencies and RDP are behaving. I also have an rsync going on from Iniz to NorthHosts, and thats using PCCW and hitting 100Mbps.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @hawc said:
    It seems to all have gone back to normal, via London. Latencies and RDP are behaving. I also have an rsync going on from Iniz to NorthHosts, and thats using PCCW and hitting 100Mbps.

    Glad it's back to normal :-). I find it weird though that they route some via London and some via Amsterdam, but maybe that depends on the region and is a form of load balancing.

  • hawchawc Moderator, LIR
    edited December 2016

    Clouvider said: Glad it's back to normal :-). I find it weird though that they route some via London and some via Amsterdam, but maybe that depends on the region and is a form of load balancing.

    I noticed something. When I first started connecting to Psychz LA for hours at a time, it would route over Amsterdam. After a while it switched over to London. It seems once you really use it, they shunt you over to London.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @hawc said:

    Clouvider said: Glad it's back to normal :-). I find it weird though that they route some via London and some via Amsterdam, but maybe that depends on the region and is a form of load balancing.

    I noticed something. When I first started connecting to Psychz LA for hours at a time, it would route over Amsterdam. After a while it switched over to London. It seems once you really use it, they shunt you over to London.

    Source based routing is highly unlikely, though they might have some load balancing system in place though where a particular region can be routed differently as needed.

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