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OK @jarland FATALITY YOU WIN
They certainly all have great reviews, don't they (they don't)? Using MailChannels is not the only thing that matters. You're still sharing a server with people running vulnerable PHP scripts and if you think that doesn't impact a shared instance of exim/dovecot then you've never been a shared hosting provider. I have, I've seen it all first hand, it's exactly why I made MXroute.
Do any of them mention what they do to focus on email specific features as well, or do they consider the MailChannels code pasted in the exim config to be the end of it, and wipe their hands clean of the feature? Do they do any work on adjusting filters to address trends? Do they monitor their exim instances and make adjustments on the fly to address potential performance issues before they occur? You don't know. I suggest that they don't. I do have a frame of reference in my professional work. I do these things, my frame of reference being myself.
Right, but that doesn't mean that they know how to manage it day to day, or troubleshoot it.
Sure maybe I don't offer something that does your taxes and wipes your ass for you as well, but for $10/year one would think having a mail server admin working on your behalf is maybe worth that less-than-$1-per-month price if email is of any importance to you :P
You won't find someone who does what I do for the price that I offer. That's all I'm saying. If that's not of value to you, that's not an insult toward my product. That means you don't need it, and that's fine. Plenty of people do.
I'm impressed with what I've seen of mxroute so far. I have some months left on my much more expensive primary email plan, but may migrate it to mxroute when it gets nearer to expiration.
There're great and kind people behind MXroute. The only thing holding me back is the lack of sieve filtering.
On a tangential: For email-hosting in Europe, what would you guys recommend? MXRoute sadly is not.
Why does the location matter for email hosting?
Just call it a small act of defiance that ultimately is useless. Still, Id rather have my mail in Europe than US.
I think using MXroute is more defying than hosting your email in Europe, just sayin' :P
Not sure I follow.
@MagicalTrain Well, my guess was your motives for not hosting in the US were the US having anti-privacy laws, no? Isn't that what made your choice an act of defiance? So I suggested using MXroute instead, which is one of its kind, and really brought a new point of view to the email hosting business. Hell, I'd call that an act of defiance. Wouldn't you?
Correct on first point, but I dont really follow the reasoning on the second point. I havent seen/heard anything bad about MXRoute itself, just that US based hosting isnt something Id want.
I think this clearly shows us that sometimes jokes cannot be translated. That was just smalltalk I was doing, being a fanboy
tips fedora Have a nice day sir.
Chalk it up to me being German. I just dont have humour.
@MagicalTrain ah, that explains the search of reason behind my words. Just started learning German last week, interesting language which explains the mindset to some degree
One may be maintained by an alcoholic where as one definitely is.
I can fake mastery of German language by roleplaying as an Ork. Lots of intense and guttural groans sound authentic enough.
Yeah, that's why I like it. Sounds epic. Couple that with beer dripping from your mustache and you're golden.
I thought that came with the territory in networking/sysadmin roles?
Migadu.com (CH) seems interesting to me. HN thread:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13048334
Btw I notice that mailchannels (backend of mxroute) puts "country=CH" into some of its headers, making me wonder if the email is going thru Switzerland.
Some will be probably going via Switzerland based on my limited usage of MailChannel's.
Iv'e seen email coming from 2 locations NovaTrend Services in Switzerland and Gossamer Threads in Vancouver Canada, most email seem to get relayed via the Canada location.
I ain't drunk you the drunk one. You can't just decide that I'm drunk. That decision is mine and God's. I didn't make that decision. That is not a decision that was made.
what does mxroute use at back-end smtp and imap?
Exim and Dovecot.
i see, thanks.
get a new VPS
... no thanks, I will just pay @jarland a few $$ and use mxroute.
What I offer isn't revolutionary, I know, but it's cheap and effective. I promise to grow on the revolutionary side without significantly growing the cost
Start offering SMTP relays and I'll give you kiss.
Use office365 at the moment as I need the office license, but as soon as I stop needing office then I'll probably switch... That said whatever I switch to HAS to do contacts/calendar sync to the phone