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Hosting a Ranting site a violation on T&C?
Hi people,
Most VPS provider has in thier T&C or Rules , a clause that they dont allow profanity, does hosting a rant site violates this if users or members of my sites attacks people by saying cursed insults? A good example is a site where people can express what they think about a politician. (You can expect most people will say bad stuff about that politician)
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Really? How did you get this impression?
Usually this refers to communication with the provider.
Maybe because they dont want to attract DDOS attacks?
The site I'm planning to put up is something where people can post bad stuff about other people throw their anger, or shout out from my website.
one T&C example is this rule from DO
base on 3.2 its says i agree not to post, blah blah.... that is .... defamatory, libelous, profane... damaging one reputation is i believe one of the violation.
please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
My question is why you think it is most providers.
The outlined website would violate this paragraph, however you would need to clarify this with each host indivdually and have their response in writing.
maybe just those providers, vps or shared hosting i've visited were mostly having clause related to defamatory, here another one is form ramnode
thanks neroux, ill better check with providers first
Defamation. That's a pretty high bar to actually reach. What kind of website are you running that you think you run the risk of running afoul?
The way i see it is people will really visit the site, and might damage the reputation of other people. Thinking ahead should the site becomes popular... probably even gov't will might try to close down the site.
As you said, you're running a rant website. So long as you do refrain from posting stuff not based in fact, you will have no problems whatsoever. But this is LEB. You can easily afford 2-3 VPS's in case one gets taken down.
a site where people can expose corruption or bad doings to public. but of course expect make up stories from others.
How about you cut the BS replies and just tell us what the site is, what the content will be and who the audience is that will cause the issues.
If you cant provide that nobody can help.
If it includes profanity, @aolee might be still in trouble. Also people often tend not to stick to the truth in rants .
Bottom line, only the host can clarify what he meant and accepts.
Just get a server from ecatel, or some VPS in a offshore country and you'll be just fine. Make sure it doesn't have a legal entity from the USA and you're done.
A profanity clause can hit you anywhere, this is not jurisdiction dependant but simply on the provider.
Sure, but mostly hosts in these country's don't really care, they've one to protect theirselves, but when it comes to it, they wont enforce it. I've been active in that scene for a long time, and believe me, they wont care because they wont have to by law.
That might be very well true, but if it says so in the TOS and the customer does not follow (and does not have it in writing that it does not apply in his case) it the provider has a carte blanche.
Ecatel doesn't care
http://www.ecatel.info/terms.aspx
http://www.ecatel.info/why.aspx
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As I said, I'd be surprised if most providers had such a clause. But of course its always better to clarify it beforehand.
That's absolutely hilarious. I love it.
It would be completely impossible to run a forum under such a TOS if they were narrowly interpreted.
Someone comments "The sky is purple." TOS violated!
I would interpret (i) as a standard "nothing illegal that is going to give us legal hassle" clause. But I'd ask.
I imagine there's a huge difference between a "rant site" where people are debating one party vs. another and, say, Stormfront.
Unfortunately it doesnt come down to one's personal interpretation but to whats written. The terms as presented here give the provider a wide leeway to its own interpretation.
Disregard the thanks, clicked it by accident.
The only entity that can answer your question in any useful manner is the one the ToS pertains to.
Hence:
I would specifically advise that you get a server in an offshore location like Romania, The Netherlands or Switzerland
Ecatel doesnt care about anything as long they dont receive a court order or Spamhaus report.
Thats my own experience. They also forward complaints about things they say they dont allow (for example phising) and say they will nullroute within 24h of no action & reply but never actually do something.
Not if the rant is 2000 fuck words