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First post!
I think in general that most enterprise related SAAS is absolutely insane now. Slack/Salesforce is one of the worst!
I know that I have cut out many tools, built tons, had a bunch abused and then resecured (looking at you WORDPRESS FAAAAAHH).
I would prefer our tooling over and over again because at the end of the day If I can build it, I can eventually get it secured. If you take a common sense approach to home rolling your applications, its not insanely difficult now.
I can't tell you the last time I've run a command myself on a box. I have an agent console thats responsible for that box thats trained on securing that box.
and just fuck enterprise saas anyway.
if i remember correctly, you wanted to contact me for the archive of the dartnode stream. Time to kill 2 flies at once xD
Because AI can rapidly read documentation, such as that for cloud provider APIs.
Yes, AI can make self-hosting easier.
All SaaS providers know how to do is squeeze and squeeze... at some point people will push back.
Like them, I enjoy the feeling of using Vibe Coding to build my own hosting, VPS, and firewall security system. When you have control, the cost of a license—monthly or lifetime (for one server)—increases if you add another server. Therefore, users prefer to build their own systems.
Fixed.
I am in real estate and I agree with you and I am one of these people for SURE. Yes, absolutely, if something doesn't work or goes down you have to fix it and that is a hassle for sure. Being responsible for everything can be annoying...
But from my point of view, the cost savings is SO huge it is actually a non-issue. I am already a technical person, and come from a computer support background, so it is not like I am starting at zero. When you look at the cost of various SAAS solutions and the fact that with a LOT of these solutions you subscribe to them, the price is under control and you view it as a good deal and then before you know it they are jacking up the price and God forbid, you hire someone to help part time. Then before you know it, you have to buy second accounts from the various SAAS companies and then isn't that fun.
Outside of a few core subscriptions for stuff I can't create myself, I have gone ALL in on self-hosting and I am SUPER happy so far. I cancelled my expensive webhosting plan, that was like $70 ALONE and many others. In between things, I have been steadily replacing most of the SAAS solutions I used to depend on. The cost savings over SAAS has been CONSIDERABLE...
For my servers, I pay around $200 / month. It is like PEANUTS compared to what I am getting out of it. Honestly I have so much compute power I might even end up onboarding the companies of a few friends as well and perhaps donating free webhosting to a few non-profits.. I have so much compute power and resources my setup will barely notice the additional work...
Exactly. Totally agree. It can be a LOT of work to initially set everything up. But then when it is setup, it is setup and you can add new users and even new servers with no additional expenses. The cost savings are HUGE.
Adding to what DP said, I often don't pay for SaaS because it seems normalized to ask your full name, full address, phone number and then no crypto payment options; with self-hosting I can choose a privacy tolerant VPS host, pay with crypto and then learn from the process.
There are caveats, I do pay for BorgBase using a card, but they just ask for a billing name and country. Additionally, Bitwarden I prefer be handled by their teams as I need high-availability from it, while Ente is much better-off ran by them since the compose stack is nightmare inducing.
Also while yes, if it goes down I do have to fix it myself, only one server is quote-on-quote "production" while the rest are alerted by email and I go back to sleep instead.