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The IncogNET thread - Discussion, news and updates.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @unsafetypin said:

    @MannDude said:

    @unsafetypin said:
    will legacy virtualizor plans be discontinued or migrated at some point? I could make a ticket for this, but, it really doesn't impact me all that much. could also be user error when clicking enduser panel under the product

    Screenshot-2026-10-13-at-3-33-12-PM

    Will be discontinued / migrated eventually. We did like 60% or more of them already to virtfusion but stopped along the way.

    it would be cool to have more info around the plans with discontinuing to plan for something else, will you consider offering anything in replacement or simply plan for cancellation and move data elsewhere?

    There won't be any altering of plans unless it is something that could be considered an improvement or upgrade in terms of resources.

    We've never increased anyone's VPS pricing or anything and don't plan to do it.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited 7:45AM

    Some My Private Inbox peaks coming soon:

    There will be two types of the "My Private Inbox" service, the first is the free service. This uses our own domain names, and they're inbox only. They can receive but cannot send email (Except to forward mail to your 'real' address). This is suitable for most, to receive one-time codes, verification links, notifications, or just as a general point of contact where you may wish to take the conversation elsewhere. It's free, and if you want to upgrade later with a domain you purchase, awesome.

    The other type is "bring your own domain", which will still be mostly designed around being an inbox-first service, but you'll be able to send from it as well. We are not and do not want to be a transactional email company, there will never be features that compete with the likes of MXRoute, NameCrane and others. We're not competing with them, we're doing our own thing.

    For the paid, bring your own domain service, we will likely have two outbound options baked in: 1.) Our servers, suitable for inner organization or personal communication. Less reputation and less likely to arrive in the inbox of big email companies, though we'll still try within reason and follow all mail related best practices for deliverability. This is the most private option. 2.) Outbound mail via mail.baby, which we've used for years already. It's a good service, but it gives outbound mail to a 3rd party which we have no control over. Better option for some, and for others not.

    Anyhow, some specifics are intentionally left vague right now. I'll show some screenshots in a bit, going to grab a bite first. :)

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited 9:20AM

    Some screenshots. This is all from the free My Private Inbox service. This does not include bringing your domain, you choose one of several work-safe and normal looking domain names for your email address. It's inbox only, you cannot send mail from these addresses. If you want to send mail, you can pay to use your own domain name and unlock the sending capability.

    Anyway, all still a work in progress of course. You don't have to tell me that some of the wording is weird or that the UI isn't perfect, I know already. This is just an early preview of whats to come. Ask for updates in a couple of weeks then pass judgement :)

    Inbox:

    Webmail prioritized, works with a .onion, I2P and Yggdrasil networks. Can also use your desktop or mobile app of your choice just like with anyone else. Inbox shows verified status based on SPF, DKIM, DMARC and other checks. If it looks suspicious, it's marked as such. If it's a trusted sender and encrypted with your exchanged keys, it's marked as such. UI certainly not finalized, the wall of text in the sidebar will likely be replaced with some snippits and links to KB articles for more details.


    Email Reading view:

    Ok, you received an email. This is roughly what the page will look like. Plain text, it's the safest option. Most places will send a plain text version of their email. Will probably have an option to view the HTML email if one is sent, but it's not as safe. No embedded tracking elements or invisible pixels can be inserted in plain text emails. Sender health card explains the checks. Full headers are available, default is they're collapsed. If someone emails you their public key you can one-click import it into your key share. Encrypted messages are decrypted on the page when the portal holds your generated key, otherwise handed to your mail program.


    Encryption management:

    So, mail is already encrypted at rest but end-to-end encryption is abailable on top of the sealing the server already does. Preferred method is importing your own public key, where the private key is on your device for your mail client. Otherwise the portal can generate a new key for you which is kept under your mailbox password. Page also lists keys of people who write to you, imported from their messages. Will allow you to import manually keys of your peers or whatever, right now it relies on them emailing you first but I can now see where that may be an extra step that you don't want.


    Spam Settings:

    Pretty basic. May later allow you to be more thorough with it. This service is designed for more than just technically minded people so wanted to just offer some safe defaults. Will need a lot of testing/tuning but you'll see three default filtering levels. Can whitelist, can blacklist, the things you'd normally want to be able to do. By default junkmail is wiped every 30 days, but you can change it to every 90 days or just turn it off completely. Junk mail still goes against your total quota / usage so unless you have reason to keep it indefinitely you probably want to purge it every so often.


    Mail Forwarding:

    Pretty self explanatory from the photo. If you prefer to use your inbox as staging for forwarding, the option exists. You can choose to forward only emails that pass certain criteria or everything.

    Data in screenshots is generated/dummy data but functions test and work. It used the real dev/test email account by default so it's blurred out for now just to save the trouble of no-gooders poking around while things are still a work in progress.

  • daaaamn, this is very good. I do hope it will be crystallized eventually and will serve well over a number of years.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    daaaamn, this is very good. I do hope it will be crystallized eventually and will serve well over a number of years.

    It's gone through several revisions over the years. Finally get to build what I want and not compromise on what was basically some half baked implementation of my vision.

    Admittedly, the domain MyPrivateInbox.com expired by mistake. I caught it in the redemption period, but InternetBS is email only support and took a week of back and forth for them to let me pay for it's recovery... Sure as shit, by the time they were ready to manually invoice us it was too late... Sold at auction.

    Guy wanted like $2,500 for the domain... Ended up getting it for $650. Expensive lesson learned. Still waiting for it to be pushed to my GoDaddy account, only option for it right now since it was picked up by Afternic or whatever. What a mess. Almost lost the domain dedicated to the project...

  • Expensive but I hope, once it will be released, people here will support ya. Oh, any idea of price range? I know it is probably too early...

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    Expensive but I hope, once it will be released, people here will support ya. Oh, any idea of price range? I know it is probably too early...

    I'll do one lifetime plan for $650 just to break even... Jk.

    Pricing undetermined. Availability will all be limited anyway with stock released in short windows just to control growth and measure real usage beyond whatever the first batch of beta testers do. So, 10-20 testers will open my eyes to some issues that may need fixed or things that can be improved. But would rather open to the public after that and release to 100 more... Then close sign ups, wait a month or so... then we'll see where we are. Release it here and there in more manageable spurts.

    Pricing for BYO-domain will probably be $12/yr to start because "$1/mo" is easy marketing.

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    @MannDude said: Pricing for BYO-domain will probably be $12/yr to start because "$1/mo" is easy marketing.

    can pencil me in at $12/yr, happy to beta too.

  • @Arirang said:
    @MannDude Great announcement!, but I noticed one critical feature is missing from the announcement: the $17.76 special plan. 😂

    17,76 cult still alive. still using / idling the 1776 vps!

  • @MannDude said: Pricing for BYO-domain will probably be $12/yr

    Shut up and take me :lol:

  • Yup, im in.

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