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some of you need to go back and read the original essay because while what you're saying is keen it's just not relevant to what the op is asking.
I think it was the OP who made the impression IRC is inspired by Discord. Also i think first version of IRC are 3+ decades now.
Regardless, Discord is SPOF unlike IRC.
Discord servers are the SPOF, so it doesn't scale anywhere near like IRC does. IRC was first scaling "masterpieces". IRC is not a single server SPOF out there. You have a lot of servers, they were called networks etc. like IRCnet, DALnet etc.
I dislike heavily that everything is on Discord, instead that there was simply better IRC clients built. Dependant on a 3rd party platform instead of self-hosted. But you got to go where the people are, and hence we too have a Discord "server". Since it's a platfrom, they could de-platform you at any moment.
They called IRC the "daddy that started it all", so definitely not the OP. Might've been someone else?
That... depends on what you mean by that. Do you mean that it's centralized? If so, yes.
I'm not sure about that, but it's a difficult comparison to draw anyway since Discord just does a lot more. Whether you need any of that, is a personal matter.
Yep, not a fan either. Tired of being farmed for data and being at the mercy of automated moderation systems.
I could live without many of the Discord niceties tbh, but many of my friends couldn't. The only chance at migrating away from it, is going to be a proper alternative. IRC just isn't that, no matter how many QoL things you tack on.
Discord and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
It's been exactly 30 years since the Great Split. I was there!
Same - still on both
There was a moment when some of the old folks showed up, like digital from stealth.net etc.
I was just thinking about how mentioning IRC always triggers us (the same few people on LET), hehe.
The great old times. That was probably around the first times i visited IRC.
Funny how this too began from Finland
i dunno irc has it's hard negatives too. look at efnet where the opers were worse than the fuckin packet kids. the ones that weren't packet kids anyway.
and saying no spof with irc is nonsense. all networks don't interconnect, and it's hard to imagine op would be standing up a network anyway. more likely he'd be standing up a single ergo instance or something.
Oh, there are definitely some bad apples here and there
Even today, not all opers and admins get along well.
True.
Some servers don't even pass the trial link stage, due to DDoS attacks of course, and they either end up dead or withdrawing their application.
Ok, very counterintuitive name then.
How does one 'feel' that Discord is running IRC on backend? Some kind of spidey sense only neckbeards possess?
I never liked it because it is geared for kid gamers that like minecraft and the UI reflects it. Always seemed stupid adults using this baby looking thing.
Cheeky bugger don't blame me for that.
I said I hate the ubiquity of discord and want to use other services. That is the only reason I brought it up.
I hate Discord with a passion. The only thing that's worse is Teams. God, I have PTSD over the Teams sounds.
But I understand why Discord is popular: no need to host an actual server. A group of gamers or friends who don't know shit about Linux, can't afford a VPN VPS or are behind CGNAT can sign up and have a chatroom.
In reality, we need open protocols not closed platforms. We need protocols which DGAF which client you run. We need to unbundle the server and client side.
Mastodon and Bluesky while imperfect do a good job at a protocol rather than a platform. I in fact host both Fediverse and ATProto servers for myself.
While protocols can be ugly, we should make them modular so they can expand over time. After all, nobody asks for your "gmail" they ask for your email. ActivityPub started as a Twitter wannabe but expanded to copying Instagram and TikTok too.
EDIT: Add another paragraph.
What about Matrix then?
Oh yeah, if I didn't create accounts for a few friends on my thelounge instance, there's no way they would have figured it. Well, one of them could have if they wanted... Though they used mIRC back in the 90s/00s so that is why I didn't have to make them a step-by-step document or set the network block in their user.json file, they were able to figure things out in the web interface on their own.
IIRC, op said in the original post they would buy a domain/server/etc so there could be something simple for the folks in that community which can easily be done with thelounge. If it was me though, I would also host my own ircd so users wouldn't interact with servers not controlled by me/the community. I say that because I could totally see there being a troll and making an opper on some other server mad (whether they're a good one or one of the drama oppers that seem to plague a lot of networks) and end up getting the server k/g lined from it.