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PSA: Prepare for another emergency reboot (CVE-2026-64560)

forestforest Member
edited July 31 in News

Thankfully this is not a KVM escape so nodes won't have to reboot as fast, but the guests sure should.

The bug, CVE-2026-64560, is a UAF in the POSIX timer subsystem, and allows rather simple privilege escalation.

See detailed description in commit 920f893f735e92ba3a1cd9256899a186b161928d.

Unfortunately, there's not even a fix in Debian yet (besides Sid), but see their security tracker for updates.

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Comments

  • @rpqu said:
    fuck

  • great success--every day

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    AI really fucked things up

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • rpqurpqu Member

    fuck

  • This kind of LPE happens regularly in Linux and it's why you can't use Docker as a security boundary. You would have to have already escaped a VM to use this against a VM host.

  • Is a full reboot actually necessary even if I use LivePatch to keep the kernel up to date with security patches?

  • Neat321Neat321 Member

    @rpqu said:
    fuck

  • rdesrdes Member
    edited July 31

    The RHEL errata classifies this (for now) as moderate severity and states that it does not affect RHEL 7.x and 8.x.

    But there's also this shit (OVSwrap, CVE-2026-64531):
    https://blog.cloudlinux.com/ovswrap-cve-2026-64531-mitigation/

  • It is becoming a new reality, so all we can do it to accept it and continue to live [preferably happily].

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • FubukiFubuki Member

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited July 31

    @allthemtings said:
    AI really fucked things up

    Fucked up and down.

    And sideways too.

  • slowserversslowservers Member, Host Rep

    @rdes said:
    The RHEL errata classifies this (for now) as moderate severity and states that it does not affect RHEL 7.x and 8.x.

    But there's also this shit (OVSwrap, CVE-2026-64531):
    https://blog.cloudlinux.com/ovswrap-cve-2026-64531-mitigation/

    Ha, OpenVSwitch! That used to be such a pain in my side!!

    I think it got a lot better over the years. Now it bites again.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    A one-liner to solve all the problems:

    for H in $(awk '$1=="Host"{print $2}' .ssh/config); do ssh $H 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo reboot'; done

    Thanked by 1655
  • @yoursunny said:
    A one-liner to solve all the problems:

    for H in $(awk '$1=="Host"{print $2}' .ssh/config); do ssh $H 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo reboot'; done

    -sh: sudo: not found
    -sh: apt: not found

    No salvation!

    Thanked by 3zed TimboJones tux
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Oh well, the bazaar at work.

  • forestforest Member

    @jsg said:
    Oh well, the bazaar at work.

    Happens with the Cathedral as well. ;)

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:
    Oh well, the bazaar at work.

    Happens with the Cathedral as well. ;)

    Much less though.

  • forestforest Member
    edited August 1

    @jsg said:

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:
    Oh well, the bazaar at work.

    Happens with the Cathedral as well. ;)

    Much less though.

    Fewer discoveries != fewer vulns. A few years ago a study was done which showed that Linux, while more bugs were reported, was overall harder to exploit than FreeBSD or even OpenBSD (the kernels specifically, not the userspace), and that bugs typically got fixed faster.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:
    Oh well, the bazaar at work.

    Happens with the Cathedral as well. ;)

    Much less though.

    Fewer discoveries != fewer vulns. A few years ago a study was done which showed that Linux, while more bugs were reported, was overall harder to exploit than FreeBSD or even OpenBSD (the kernels specifically, not the userspace), and that bugs typically got fixed faster.

    and we not mentioning Windows... OoPs. :D

  • ...Emergency reboot: because "have you tried turning it off and on again" apparently still scales to enterprise...

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:
    Oh well, the bazaar at work.

    Happens with the Cathedral as well. ;)

    Much less though.

    Fewer discoveries != fewer vulns. A few years ago a study was done which showed that Linux, while more bugs were reported, was overall harder to exploit than FreeBSD or even OpenBSD (the kernels specifically, not the userspace), and that bugs typically got fixed faster.

    I take it that you are a linux fan. No problem but not a good basis for certain topics. Just a few remarks

    • come again with a full comparison. It's not the BSD's fault that linux is "just a kernel" * pious voice (haha).
    • Maybe bugs get fixed faster but new bugs also get introduced faster. Btw "more people" != "more competence".
    • linux harder to exploit than OpenBSD - thanks for the laugh!
    • even microsoft now has embraced linux, kudos (albeit with a dirty smirk)

    Let's end this here, I like and respect you (even though you obviously are a linux fan and in the bazaar camp *g) and I have no interest in creating, let alone in hardening fronts between us.

    Have a nice weekend :)

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @jsg said: Much less though.

    Oh, I don't know...Oracle released fixes for 1,449 security vulnerabilities in its products this quarter.

    https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/07/23/oracle-drops-1449-security-patches-like-its-the-new-normal/5277114

  • forestforest Member
    edited August 1

    @jsg I have a more nuanced view than you might think, and I use and enjoy both!

    @jsg said: I take it that you are a linux fan.

    I'm actually not a Linux fan. While I suppose I could say I'm "team Linux" in that it's what I use the most, I've never felt more "welcome" as when I use OpenBSD. Everything fits together perfectly. The manpages are actually useful (besides man2 at least) and I don't have to install that god-awful GNU Info package just to see more information about a simple coreutils command. As for FreeBSD, I do have issues with it regarding lack of security mitigations (it's ASLR is weak and it's still vulnerable to SROP after all these years), but it's certainly not a bad system.

    @jsg said: come again with a full comparison. It's not the BSD's fault that linux is "just a kernel" * pious voice (haha).

    Oh I agree. I far prefer the OpenBSD userspace (and general development practices). I'm only talking about the kernel. The OpenBSD userspace is better than the Linux userspace, even if only because of the ubiquitous use of pledge() and the fact that their memory allocator is designed with security in mind.

    The reason I only compare kernels is because of the vast difference in Linux distros. Debian is definitely going to be less secure than OpenBSD so would that be a fair comparison? Or I could choose a customized, locked-down Gentoo install but that would sway things in favor of Linux. So instead I only look at the kernels when I make comparisons about security.

    @jsg said: Maybe bugs get fixed faster but new bugs also get introduced faster. Btw "more people" != "more competence".

    What matters at the end of the day is how hard it is to exploit a properly-configured system.

    @jsg said: linux harder to exploit than OpenBSD - thanks for the laugh!

    The kernel? Yes. Even pre-LLM, just run a syscall fuzzer on OpenBSD and you'll faint.

    See also https://isopenbsdsecu.re/, which is generally considered accurate by exploit developers.

    That doesn't mean that the average Linux system will be more secure than the average OpenBSD system, of course. The average Linux system is some crappy IoT device that hasn't seen an update in 7 years. The average OpenBSD system is probably a well-looked after firewall managed by a seasoned sysadmin.

    @jsg said: even though you obviously are a linux fan and in the bazaar camp *g

    Don't get me wrong, while I like Linux, it has a lot of faults. Now, I am a diehard FOSS fan (with only a slight preference for GPL but nothing against BSD). But as for Linux vs *BSD? There's a lot of nuance and I can't say one is better in all ways. They all have their place and the world would be worse off if it lost any of them.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @forest said: The manpages are actually useful (besides man2 at least) and I don't have to install that god-awful GNU Info package just to see more information about a simple coreutils command.

    image

    Thanked by 1forest
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @raindog308 said:

    @jsg said: Much less though.

    Oh, I don't know...Oracle released fixes for 1,449 security vulnerabilities in its products this quarter.

    https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/07/23/oracle-drops-1449-security-patches-like-its-the-new-normal/5277114

    What's next? Microsoft?
    Besides what's that to do with linux or the BSDs?

    @forest said:
    @jsg I have a more nuanced view than you might think, and I use and enjoy both!

    @jsg said: I take it that you are a linux fan.

    I'm actually not a Linux fan. While I suppose I could say I'm "team Linux" in that it's what I use the most, I've never felt more "welcome" as when I use OpenBSD. Everything fits together perfectly. The manpages are actually useful (besides man2 at least) and I don't have to install that god-awful GNU Info package just to see more information about a simple coreutils command. As for FreeBSD, I do have issues with it regarding lack of security mitigations (it's ASLR is weak and it's still vulnerable to SROP after all these years), but it's certainly not a bad system.

    @jsg said: come again with a full comparison. It's not the BSD's fault that linux is "just a kernel" * pious voice (haha).

    Oh I agree. I far prefer the OpenBSD userspace (and general development practices). I'm only talking about the kernel. The OpenBSD userspace is better than the Linux userspace, even if only because of the ubiquitous use of pledge() and the fact that their memory allocator is designed with security in mind.

    The reason I only compare kernels is because of the vast difference in Linux distros. Debian is definitely going to be less secure than OpenBSD so would that be a fair comparison? Or I could choose a customized, locked-down Gentoo install but that would sway things in favor of Linux. So instead I only look at the kernels when I make comparisons about security.

    @jsg said: Maybe bugs get fixed faster but new bugs also get introduced faster. Btw "more people" != "more competence".

    What matters at the end of the day is how hard it is to exploit a properly-configured system.

    @jsg said: linux harder to exploit than OpenBSD - thanks for the laugh!

    The kernel? Yes. Even pre-LLM, just run a syscall fuzzer on OpenBSD and you'll faint.

    See also https://isopenbsdsecu.re/, which is generally considered accurate by exploit developers.

    That doesn't mean that the average Linux system will be more secure than the average OpenBSD system, of course. The average Linux system is some crappy IoT device that hasn't seen an update in 7 years. The average OpenBSD system is probably a well-looked after firewall managed by a seasoned sysadmin.

    @jsg said: even though you obviously are a linux fan and in the bazaar camp *g

    Don't get me wrong, while I like Linux, it has a lot of faults. Now, I am a diehard FOSS fan (with only a slight preference for GPL but nothing against BSD). But as for Linux vs *BSD? There's a lot of nuance and I can't say one is better in all ways. They all have their place and the world would be worse off if it lost any of them.

    I largely agree and am not surprised that you are more nuanced than it seemed at first glance.

    One point though I'd like to pick out and underline:

    The reason I only compare kernels is because of the vast difference in Linux distros.

    One more reason to prefer BSD *g

    That said one doesn't always have the free choice. I myself am using linux on my workstation, not because I like it but because it's less evil and crappy than Windows.
    On my servers though, BSD only.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @jsg said: Besides what's that to do with linux or the BSDs?

    My point was to compare cathedral vs. bazaar. Oracle is as cathedral as you can get. The cathedral/bazaar model isn't limited to open source, is it? You can label closed-source projects/products as having cathedral-style development I think.

  • forestforest Member

    @raindog308 said:

    @jsg said: Besides what's that to do with linux or the BSDs?

    My point was to compare cathedral vs. bazaar. Oracle is as cathedral as you can get. The cathedral/bazaar model isn't limited to open source, is it? You can label closed-source projects/products as having cathedral-style development I think.

    Closed-source products are pretty much locked into being Cathedral-style, unless they simply take a permissively-licensed product, close it, and release it without doing any real development themselves I suppose.

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @vitobotta said: Is a full reboot actually necessary even if I use LivePatch to keep the kernel up to date with security patches?

    yes. it seems so.

  • forestforest Member

    @JasonM said:

    @vitobotta said: Is a full reboot actually necessary even if I use LivePatch to keep the kernel up to date with security patches?

    yes. it seems so.

    Unless they release a livepatch specifically to fix this, which I don't believe they have.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @raindog308 said:

    @jsg said: Besides what's that to do with linux or the BSDs?

    My point was to compare cathedral vs. bazaar. Oracle is as cathedral as you can get. The cathedral/bazaar model isn't limited to open source, is it? You can label closed-source projects/products as having cathedral-style development I think.

    OK, my bad, I should have made it clear that IMO pretty much every large corp is outside that pattern. Also the cathedral of course also need good people at the top.
    Besides, Oracle seems to be mostly in the ai and DC business (and with a bit of luck belly up soon).

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