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How do you vet a new hosting provider before committing?

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How do you vet a new hosting provider before committing?

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  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    That's classified information.

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  • DyingcatDyingcat Member

    See reviews

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  • By making sure they have a commitment to not raise prices for existing customers later on

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  • drizbodrizbo Member

    Usually i check their name and if they have stuff like "fastest" in the name I know they are not fast, or if they have "reliable" in name I would also question the reliability

  • rpqurpqu Member

    That's interesting question @ReliableSiteHosting/ @MrRadic
    The easiest part is looking at how long they have been around. Then, you start deep diving the comments and the subsequent claims made by customers on different threads. That's enough bias to develop opinion.
    If the provider is active on forum, make interaction with them to understand their infrastructure, values, pain points, etc which cannot be obtained without reading more than 10% of their posts

    @forest @AlteredParadox

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @drizbo said:
    Usually i check their name and if they have stuff like "fastest" in the name I know they are not fast, or if they have "reliable" in name I would also question the reliability

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 22

    @ReliableSiteHosting said:
    How do you vet a new hosting provider before committing?

    No, 99% of let crowd.

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  • fitkohfitkoh Member

    Gamble 7$

  • forestforest Member
    edited July 22

    My steps:

    • Check how long they have been around (sometimes the company name is new but they just renamed)
    • Check if they have their own ASN and for how long, and look at their upstreams
    • See if their ToS and AUP are written by an LLM, by a translator, contain unnecessary legal gibberish, or is sane
    • Look at the claims on their site and make sure they're reasonable (no "Genuine 1 Gbps unmetered $2/month!!!")
    • Make sure they give information upfront: Looking glass, type of hardware, upstreams, datacenter
    • Check TrustPilot reviews and what people say about them here and on communities like r/vps

    But even then, I'll never commit to a large amount of money. I may jump into a long-term prepaid plan, but not if the annual cost is even near $100. For that, I'd need more assurance.

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    personally myself i check if they're doing some shit like trying to sell an Atom D525 made in 2010 as a dedi for $33 a month

    that usually tells me all i need to know

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @beanman109 said:
    personally myself i check if they're doing some shit like trying to sell an Atom D525 made in 2010 as a dedi for $33 a month

    that usually tells me all i need to know

    B-But KS-A?

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:
    personally myself i check if they're doing some shit like trying to sell an Atom D525 made in 2010 as a dedi for $33 a month

    that usually tells me all i need to know

  • tzulitzuli Member
    • do they own hardware
    • do they accept PayPal (I actually prefer to use crypto, but it's easier for me to trust providers that aren't afraid of PayPal)
    • age of business, where are they registered
    • check ASN and upstreams
    • mtr, looking glass
    • are their deals realistic (no perpetually available $7/yr offerings)
    • skim FUP/AUP/ToS (even good providers like GreenCloud or HostDZire may have abnormally strict policies. not a red flag but it's something I like to be aware of)
    • is it a "one-man show"? (I might still use them, just not for production)
    • are their servers in a datacenter or a basement
    • do their customer-facing reps have any idea what's going on
    • look for disingenuous marketing, things like cheap "unmetered" bandwidth (not necessarily a red flag, but it can reveal a lot about their knowledge and/or sincerity)
    • check performance (e.g. YABS, nws.sh)
    • have they already been scamming people for years? (e.g. HostSlick)
  • kevindskevinds Member, LIR

    Carefully. More or less..

  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member
    edited July 23

    My funnel looks like this:

    1) Read trustpilot reviews, especially the one star ones. A couple isolated incidents is not necessarily a problem, but if there are people discussing KYC I'm out instantly. After I read the one stars, I'll read the others, with usually the best information in the 3/4 star reviews. I don't worry too much about the overall average unless it's very low -- perfect five stars is not expected. Seeing a review about a terminated account isn't itself a dealbreaker, but if they seem to consistently prevent customers from getting their data out then that is worrisome to me.

    2) Read TOS/AUP, especially regarding (legal) adult content. If they don't allow adult, I'm out. If there is other contract weirdness, like wanting to own/resell all customer content, etc, then I'm out. If the privacy policy sounds like they sell data, I'm out.

    3) Check the looking glass IP with worldping to see how the ping is from various locations. Also try running an extended ping locally to see if there are an unusual amount of network hiccups to the looking glass.

    4) Finally, I buy one vm/server first (month-to-month) and then run a benchmark on it to ascertain initial performance. Keep it running afterwards and not doing much other than ensure it is receiving auto-updates and put an uptime monitor on it.

    5) After some months of good uptime, can use it for production and potentially buy more VMs with provider.

    1. gut feeling & LET memes (80% of decision)

    2. whether they provide looking glass or not

    3. price must be visible in a page without me creating an account first. no price shown publicly = no buy.

    4. check post history. ayyeee slop = to the trash

    5. get monthly first for toy project. see how their mailing and billing system works. failure sending mail as a provider is easy skip on me

    6. see if their vps control panel makes sense or not (petty things like reboot, reinstall, rescue mode should be self-service, no need to open tickets)

    7. see if they have something against VPN (wireguard/openvpn) or distributed file sharing (syncthing, resilio-sync, ipfs).

    8. not being honest about downtime until ping.pe screenshot is shown = trash. i don't need the 99.8% uptime or telling you to fix it asap. if you got network issues, acknowledge it. not doing autistic mental gymnastic and gaslighting me instead.

    additional criteria to become "premium" provider in my eyes:

    • actually reading mail abuse/complaint and forward it to me if i must take actions. if you got mail said my ip blabla having copyrighted content, then you MUST forward that mail to me and give me timeout to take action (1x24h or something). not just directly SUSPEND my service without actually letting me know what the issues is, and just vaguely mention "something something trademark/copyright violation" in the suspension whmcs mail, wtf is your problem?. i can't shill IncogNet enough in this part if you're fighting against copyright trolls. why isn't this a common thing?
    • if the vps bandwidth usage is over the limit, throttle it to somewhere still enough for an ssh access instead of suspending it. if this happen, i'm more likely to buy more bandwidth (if such thing is available). but if you suspend me then telling me to buy bandwidth addon, then i'll never buy it. also, no automatic charge when i'm capping my bandwidth.
    • not hiding cpu steal%
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  • forestforest Member

    @ScreenReader said: if the vps bandwidth usage is over the limit, throttle it to somewhere still enough for an ssh access instead of suspending it.

    1000% this. Even if they throttle everything to 56 kbps, that's still enough to SSH in. It makes no sense to prevent you from using the processor or storage when the only thing you ran out of was bandwidth.

  • Your reviews were concerning as an example. But your community generosity was also kind.
    The reviews undermine a lot.

  • bustersgbustersg Member

    Experience lurking stalking around LET

  • vuanhsonvuanhson Member

    Mine:

    • Search for reviews
    • Buy short term plan and try it, never do long term plan unless it very cheap like 7$/year or I already satisfy with their performance, and never buy expensive plan unless it from very big provider
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    1. Search for existing reviews on LET, OGF, NodeSeek, and r/VPS. A longer track record is a plus.
    2. Check the provider’s post and thread history. If the vibe is sus, pass. Being highly engaged in the community is a huge plus.
    3. Take a look at their official website, client area, knowledge base, and control panel. If anything looks broken or half-finished, pass. A good knowledge base and a polished panel, whether VirtFusion or an in-house solution, are huge pluses.
    4. If they pass those checks, try a monthly plan first. If everything works well, move to a longer billing term when a good promotion comes up.
  • Mik3y326Mik3y326 Member

    Buy a VPS, let it run for 6-12 months, test it, yabs the fuck out of it, if everything stays the same (performance), test some applications on it, before finally deciding if its worth getting this machine production ready. Its a tedious process, but so far the only one that gets you the information you need.

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    It is probably pointless to reply to this thread. Looking at OP's previous threads, they often start similar discussions but then they don't take part in the conversation afterward :)

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:
    personally myself i check if they're doing some shit like trying to sell an Atom D525 made in 2010 as a dedi for $33 a month

    that usually tells me all i need to know

    Hello Valued Customer,

    We are writing to inform you of an upcoming price adjustment regarding your dedicated server.

    Within the next 12 hours, the monthly rate for your legacy Intel Atom D525 server will increase from $33.00/month to $59.95/month.

    Thanked by 1beanman109
  • easy, I check sp500.

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