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Anyone else not patched Januscape yet?

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  • gremeyergremeyer Member

    @gigahost is patching their hosts right now.

  • x1archx1arch Member

  • rdesrdes Member

    OVH released information about mandatory maintenance today https://public-cloud.status-ovhcloud.com/incidents/m5qn00qgl9zh even though many instances were already rebooted yesterday.

    They seems to be completely paralyzed by this and the problems it caused. I'm waiting for manual reboot of dedicated server with failed IPMI ~12h and it seems there is no one available to do it..

    Thanked by 2OhJohn tentor
  • forestforest Member

    Lmao that's quite a list from OVH. They couldn't just say "This scheduled maintenance affects: Everywhere"?

    Thanked by 3OhJohn xms rpqu
  • JoeMeritJoeMerit Veteran

    Should we put in a cancellation for any hosts that show no sign of patching?

  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @JoeMerit said:
    Should we put in a cancellation for any hosts that show no sign of patching?

    Actually, I’m used to applying routine patches without notifying customers, so I don’t really see why I should change that. Do you think it’s important?

    There are many reasons to keep systems up to date, and we’ve applied a number of important security-related patches over the last few months. In my experience, though, most customers aren’t particularly interested in receiving an announcement every time routine maintenance is performed.

    In my opinion, as a paying customer of a service provider, I shouldn’t have to worry about those things in the first place. That’s exactly what I’m paying the provider to take care of.

  • @hyperblast said: not sure:

    @berohost

    patched. talked to the man on discord.

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • @ProHosting24 said: In my opinion, as a paying customer of a service provider, I shouldn’t have to worry about those things in the first place. That’s exactly what I’m paying the provider to take care of.

    common prohosting24 W

    Thanked by 1ProHosting24
  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @Protocol903 said:

    @ProHosting24 said: In my opinion, as a paying customer of a service provider, I shouldn’t have to worry about those things in the first place. That’s exactly what I’m paying the provider to take care of.

    common prohosting24 W

    wow thank you <3 :)

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited July 10

    i have patched my macos so im good. Safe here. Use protection always. You have no "backdoor" into me. Weirdo.

  • @NDTN Did you patch for this @ Greencloud because only my Singapore VPS went down briefly for scheduled maintenance. Amsterdam and UK VPSes are unaffected, were they patched?

  • @neighhouse said: Amsterdam and UK

    I think this was patched 2 days ago, as per their email.

    Thanked by 1neighhouse
  • tuxtux Member

    I have not patched my private KVM node yet.

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    i am all in vaccine stocks, LETS GOOOOOOOO

  • @neighhouse said:
    @NDTN Did you patch for this @ Greencloud because only my Singapore VPS went down briefly for scheduled maintenance. Amsterdam and UK VPSes are unaffected, were they patched?

    Yes per: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4829201/#Comment_4829201

    Thanked by 1neighhouse
  • @JohnnySac said:

    @neighhouse said:
    @NDTN Did you patch for this @ Greencloud because only my Singapore VPS went down briefly for scheduled maintenance. Amsterdam and UK VPSes are unaffected, were they patched?

    Yes per: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4829201/#Comment_4829201

    Thank you

  • bobertbobert Member

    So nobody uses kernelcare?

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @bobert said:
    So nobody uses kernelcare?

    They are slow in preparing a livepatch for some weird reason, still no fix for Almalinux 9

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 10

    @bobert said:
    So nobody uses kernelcare?

    Pricing probably add up for a lot of systems on a large scale and really wasn't needed until AI dissected everything, especially for isolated environments. (edited my post but I am running KC on web hosting servers now since they're not very isolated)

  • JoeMeritJoeMerit Veteran

    @ProHosting24 said: Actually, I’m used to applying routine patches without notifying customers, so I don’t really see why I should change that. Do you think it’s important?

    I think in cases where there is a known security issue in which a VPS could be used to either crash the node or potentially gain admin privileges on the host node, that its important for providers to share what they have done to protect against it. Hopefully these types of things remain rare.

    Thanked by 1ProHosting24
  • bobertbobert Member

    @MikeA said: Pricing probably add up for a lot of systems on a large scale and really wasn't needed until AI dissected everything, especially for isolated environments.

    Cost is like $5/month per hypervisor, and most hypervisors these days have what, like 50+ customers on them each? That's only $0.1 per user.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 10

    @bobert said:

    @MikeA said: Pricing probably add up for a lot of systems on a large scale and really wasn't needed until AI dissected everything, especially for isolated environments.

    Cost is like $5/month per hypervisor, and most hypervisors these days have what, like 50+ customers on them each? That's only $0.1 per user.

    I suppose you're right, but this is LET. :blush:

    With price increases for everything every year, adding more and more recurring costs add up, and those recurring costs will have price increases of their own. It goes the same for transaction fees, some of these for low end services are like 10% of the recurring fee, but people would hate it if the TX fees were added upfront.

    Probably 98% of people are OK with a quick reboot to apply security patches. I had only one person contact me during my reboots over the past week.

  • bobertbobert Member
    edited July 10

    I just did some research and it is so easy to DIY live patches now. You just apt install the linux source for the kernel you are on, and use an app called kpatch and feed it a diff.

    Thanked by 1rdes
  • tra10000tra10000 Member

    Is anyone experiencing issues with Layer7 Germany location? France is active, but I haven’t been able to connect to the Germany VPS for more than an hour. Could it be some kind of update? Anyone else having trouble?

  • @tra10000 said:
    Is anyone experiencing issues with Layer7 Germany location? France is active, but I haven’t been able to connect to the Germany VPS for more than an hour. Could it be some kind of update? Anyone else having trouble?

    congratulations, your downtime has been doubled.

  • tra10000tra10000 Member

    @ScreenReader said:

    @tra10000 said:
    Is anyone experiencing issues with Layer7 Germany location? France is active, but I haven’t been able to connect to the Germany VPS for more than an hour. Could it be some kind of update? Anyone else having trouble?

    congratulations, your downtime has been doubled.

    Oh wow, what a funny thing…

  • daileeedaileee Member

    @tra10000 said:
    Is anyone experiencing issues with Layer7 Germany location? France is active, but I haven’t been able to connect to the Germany VPS for more than an hour. Could it be some kind of update? Anyone else having trouble?

    yes. I have the €5/mo 5TB deal in Germany, and I haven't been able to access it for ~3hr

    Thanked by 1tra10000
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @tra10000 said:
    Is anyone experiencing issues with Layer7 Germany location? France is active, but I haven’t been able to connect to the Germany VPS for more than an hour. Could it be some kind of update? Anyone else having trouble?

    I had the same issue; for me, it worked again after I stopped and restarted it in the panel (in the web VNC it looked like it was on, but it didn't react to keyboard inputs; nothing in the logs).
    I also have the 5€/mo 5 TB VPS. (Pretty sure that this was the first real downtime of that server in over a year; very reliable.)
    While I'm not having any issue anymore, tagging @layer7 just in case (though I would assume someone has opened a ticket).

    Thanked by 2tra10000 layer7
  • tra10000tra10000 Member

    @lukast__ said:

    @tra10000 said:
    Is anyone experiencing issues with Layer7 Germany location? France is active, but I haven’t been able to connect to the Germany VPS for more than an hour. Could it be some kind of update? Anyone else having trouble?

    I had the same issue; for me, it worked again after I stopped and restarted it in the panel (in the web VNC it looked like it was on, but it didn't react to keyboard inputs; nothing in the logs).
    I also have the 5€/mo 5 TB VPS. (Pretty sure that this was the first real downtime of that server in over a year; very reliable.)
    While I'm not having any issue anymore, tagging @layer7 just in case (though I would assume someone has opened a ticket).

    Thanks, power off/on worked. Reset hadn’t worked. Yes, it was the first downtime

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR
    edited July 15

    Hi,

    yes, perfect morning :-) ;-;

    I had too much faith in proxmox / ZFS -- not exactly sure which one to blame --, turned out to be a bad idea to have too much faith ;-;

    Just like mentioned already in the tickets, this was storage related.

    But not because the storage is defective or full, but because proxmox thought its full.

    Lead to proxmox bringing up an error IO flag ( seems to be new?! ) and blocking all IO.

    All that needed to be done is power off -> power on. But most customers did not do that or just tried a software reset, that did not help.

    Up to 3h downtime until we did this power off -> on for all instances ourselves...

    Sorry for that!

    Thanked by 3lukast__ zed daileee
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