Hetzner Price Increase

tjn · June 15

@bugis said:
At this point, Netcup and Leaseweb appear to be the strongest candidates for the migration

Anyone got yabs/reviews for Leaseweb?

Samoht999 · June 15

i just finished to migrate my personal/business mail server from hetzner to leaseweb. i use freebsd i've run some tests and they seem equivalent

what is better in hetzner are the snapshots

amarc · June 15

@tjn said: Anyone got yabs/reviews for Leaseweb?

Smallest one:

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 10 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC Processor
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2645.030 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 5.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 98.3 GiB
Distro     : Arch Linux
Kernel     : 7.0.11-arch1-1
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : Leaseweb UK Limited
ASN        : AS205544 Leaseweb UK Limited
Host       : Leaseweb UK Limited
Location   : City of London, England (ENG)
Country    : United Kingdom

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda3):
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Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 100.19 MB/s  (25.0k) | 521.86 MB/s   (8.1k)
Write      | 100.45 MB/s  (25.1k) | 524.61 MB/s   (8.1k)
Total      | 200.64 MB/s  (50.1k) | 1.04 GB/s    (16.3k)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 498.02 MB/s    (972) | 491.53 MB/s    (480)
Write      | 524.48 MB/s   (1.0k) | 524.27 MB/s    (511)
Total      | 1.02 GB/s     (1.9k) | 1.01 GB/s      (991)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
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Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 7.70 Gbits/sec  | 5.90 Gbits/sec  | 2.00 ms        
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 8.26 Gbits/sec  | 6.46 Gbits/sec  | 8.56 ms        
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.78 Gbits/sec  | 5.08 Gbits/sec  | 98.4 ms        
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.16 Gbits/sec  | 4.09 Gbits/sec  | 187 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.26 Gbits/sec  | 1.44 Gbits/sec  | 140 ms         
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.75 Gbits/sec  | 4.91 Gbits/sec  | 70.9 ms        
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 969 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 178 ms         

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
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Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 8.15 Gbits/sec  | 4.40 Gbits/sec  | 1.93 ms        
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 7.96 Gbits/sec  | 6.00 Gbits/sec  | 8.56 ms        
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.62 Gbits/sec  | 3.71 Gbits/sec  | 98.2 ms        
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 975 Mbits/sec   | 4.33 Gbits/sec  | 187 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | busy            | 1.61 Gbits/sec  | 140 ms         
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.70 Gbits/sec  | 5.07 Gbits/sec  | 71.4 ms        
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 980 Mbits/sec   | 3.82 Gbits/sec  | 178 ms         

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test            | Value                         
                |                               
Single Core     |                               
Multi Core      |                               
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/18367594

YABS completed in 16 min 9 sec

gdarko · June 15

Given past experience Netcup may also increase prices. Historically they do it after Hetzner does. Will see how this goes in next 1-2 weeks.

t0m · June 15

@Neoon said:
The cheapest i7 was 19€.
Now its 46€, see what they took from us!

Wow, 2.5x more for the same old hardware..

Samoht999 · June 15

@gdarko said:
Given past experience Netcup may also increase prices. Historically they do it after Hetzner does. Will see how this goes in next 1-2 weeks.

let's buy 2 years contract on leaseweb!

Fubukibox · June 15

wth is with Hetzner now? im guessing t is best to avoid them ig

3K33 · June 15

@JerryHou said:
everything is up except my salary.

Mine in recent months is actually lower, because I try to eat the HW costs, not sure how long I will be able to do it tho (and Strike base pricing is already at higher range).

MikeA · June 15

So, I didn't look at the website pricing before my comment on the first page but there's two things to note.
1. Their "cost-optimized" is still very cheap - https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/cost-optimized - Not LET pricing but still a very good value at 8GB RAM, 4 Cores, for like $11. These are clearly more shared resources. This is probably identical to OVH's budget VPS (though I think they are raising prices too anyway.)
2. Their "general purpose" servers are hiked, but they claim you get dedicated CPU and consistent performance. Dedicated CPU plans are usually more expensive anywhere. These plans are heavily price hiked. Companies will happily pay more for real dedicated performance. These plans aren't targeting people who are running a web server or whatnot. I use one of these and pay 34 Euro per month. This is now apparently 102 Euro per month for new customers. I'm very happy with it so I have no plans to cancel it, but I definitely wouldn't pay 102 Euro for it.

So just get the cost optimized plans if you like Hetzner. Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

slideFactor · June 15

The VPS plans in Europe still look pretty reasonable to me. Not so much in US and Singapore.

But the price hikes for the midrange dedicated servers are just nuts:

AX42: 57 -> 189 Euro
AX102: 122 -> 452 Euro
EX63: 77 -> 237 Euro

Advin · June 15

@MikeA said:
So, I didn't look at the website pricing before my comment on the first page but there's two things to note.
1. Their "cost-optimized" is still very cheap - https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/cost-optimized - Not LET pricing but still a very good value at 8GB RAM, 4 Cores, for like $11. These are clearly more shared resources. This is probably identical to OVH's budget VPS (though I think they are raising prices too anyway.)
2. Their "general purpose" servers are hiked, but they claim you get dedicated CPU and consistent performance. Dedicated CPU plans are usually more expensive anywhere. These plans are heavily price hiked. Companies will happily pay more for real dedicated performance. These plans aren't targeting people who are running a web server or whatnot. I use one of these and pay 34 Euro per month. This is now apparently 102 Euro per month for new customers. I'm very happy with it so I have no plans to cancel it, but I definitely wouldn't pay 102 Euro for it.

So just get the cost optimized plans if you like Hetzner. Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

The pricing of the "regular performance" VMs at Hetzner were also hiked significantly. These are not dedicated cores from my understanding, and they are charging something like 8 CPU/16GB RAM/240GB SSD for 120.99 euro per month for a virtual machine in a US location, which puts them about right in line (if not, a little higher) than buying a virtual machine from DigitalOcean.

Hetzner is no longer really the "cloud-killer" it once was with this new pricing.

MikeA · June 15

@Advin said:

@MikeA said:
So, I didn't look at the website pricing before my comment on the first page but there's two things to note.
1. Their "cost-optimized" is still very cheap - https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/cost-optimized - Not LET pricing but still a very good value at 8GB RAM, 4 Cores, for like $11. These are clearly more shared resources. This is probably identical to OVH's budget VPS (though I think they are raising prices too anyway.)
2. Their "general purpose" servers are hiked, but they claim you get dedicated CPU and consistent performance. Dedicated CPU plans are usually more expensive anywhere. These plans are heavily price hiked. Companies will happily pay more for real dedicated performance. These plans aren't targeting people who are running a web server or whatnot. I use one of these and pay 34 Euro per month. This is now apparently 102 Euro per month for new customers. I'm very happy with it so I have no plans to cancel it, but I definitely wouldn't pay 102 Euro for it.

So just get the cost optimized plans if you like Hetzner. Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

The pricing of the "regular performance" VMs at Hetzner were also hiked significantly. These are not dedicated cores from my understanding, and they are charging something like 8 CPU/16GB RAM/240GB SSD for 120.99 euro per month for a virtual machine in a US location, which puts them about right in line (if not, a little higher) than buying a virtual machine from DigitalOcean.

Yeah, I was just comparing what I use with Hetzner to the cost-optimized line. My point was really that Hetzner still has a budget line that's very affordable.

gremeyer · June 15

@m4nu said:
Netcup is below Hetzner now

https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps-lite
https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/cost-optimized

Netcup bills annually, while Hetzner bills hourly. The monthly price might be lower but they are very different in terms of commitment.

Jency · June 15

Still I believe, Hetzner is still one of the better value providers overall, but if pricing keeps climbing, it makes sense to compare alternatives before renewing.

In many cases, the cheapest option ends up being the most expensive!!

nghialele · June 15

@mans_xd said:

@amarc said:

@onidel said: if you’re looking to migrate - https://onidel.com/launch-pack

How is this any cheaper ? You want $10 for 2C/4G/40GB of whatever "Premium VPS" is (probably Epyc 7002 series or similar 5+ yrs old CPU) 😒

https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/regular-performance

20$ for 2core 2 ram btw
cpu is in 4th gen of Amd EYPC

and same plan in onidel cost like 9.40
USD more than 50% off maybe the only different is bandwidth look the other side

hetzner have a tight bandwidth in us and like 0.5Tb in SG

while onidel have gen5 in sg ( newer than hetzner) and AMD EPYC Milan vCPUs gen 3 in NY AND NL according to

https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215602/onidel-amsterdam-new-york-50-off-epyc-premium-limited-sale/p1

and rome in vn according to
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215072/onidel-ho-chi-minh-vietnam-epyc-kvm-50-off/p1

shhhh!! Don't you dare saying bad words about provider H

totally_not_banned · June 15

@MikeA said:
So just get the cost optimized plans if you like Hetzner.

I don't think this is so much about liking Hetzner but rather if you are making some kind of relevant money on what you are renting so you can kind of factor it in. This round of increases is just the icing on the cake anyways. Most people i know personally that had stuff at Hetzner more or less for the fun of it have already dumped/moved it long ago and there's some seriously slow people among them.

Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

Sure, it's not like there's anything wrong with them overall but they are just no longer catering to the budget sector. Chances are it's not even a 100% arbitrary decision but in the end it is what is. Unless there's a very good reason (read: money) i'm riding out my legacy deals as long as they don't get pushed over the 30€ mark and i don't happen to end up with some direct replacement but that's likely it (well, i guess i might fire up some beefy instance for a couple of hours to crunch some data but i figure that hardly counts).

55€ for a rusty i7... sure. I'm not much of an OVH fan but it's just a no-brainer at this point and for everything else Hetzner has become pretty exchangeable. Their LET reputation stems mostly from the 2010s when people were discovering this weird German host with the cheap + stable servers. I respect them for what they achieved over the last 20 years but the lowend party has been over for a while now.

nghialele · June 15

@totally_not_banned said: Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

LMFAO

totally_not_banned · June 15

@nghialele said:

@totally_not_banned said: Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

LMFAO

Hmm? Why the misquote? In any case i agree with @MikeA on this. Hetzner has been 100% dependable (to me) over the last 20 years and i trust them to find professional/pragmatic solutions when problems arise (which is kinda rare). What's your gripe with them?

Edit: If you are referring to ethical, well, to be honest i don't really know what that would mean either.

nghialele · June 15

@totally_not_banned said:

@nghialele said:

@totally_not_banned said: Personally I think Hetzner is definitely one of the more ethical and trustworthy big server providers for general use cases.

LMFAO

Hmm? Why the misquote? In any case i agree with @MikeA on this. Hetzner has been 100% dependable (to me) over the last 20 years and i trust them to find professional/pragmatic solutions when problems arise (which is kinda rare). What's your gripe with them?

Edit: If you are referring to ethical, well, to be honest i don't really know what that would mean either.

I'm sorry I think I misread you guys xD

aphex · 12:05AM

Any US recommendations to migrate to for professional dependability?

gdarko · 11:25AM

@aphex said:
Any US recommendations to migrate to for professional dependability?

DigitalOcean, Vultr or Linode all make sense, although not cheap - but no steep price increases too.

JohnFilch123 · 11:34AM

@onidel said: if you’re looking to migrate

From the link - Valid email and identity verification

How do you verify identity?

mustafamw3 · 12:16PM

Statement from Hetzner CEO Martin Hetzner (translated to English):

To provide better understanding, I would like to add some further notes:

Hetzner Online's pricing strategy has remained unchanged for many years. Our prices are based on purchasing costs and internal operating expenses. The key pricing factors—such as depreciation periods and profit margins—have remained consistent for many years and will continue to do so.

The past nine months have been an exception. During this period, we increasingly subsidized new server hardware and passed rising procurement costs on to customers only after a significant delay. We are currently seeing a similar trend among many other data center operators as well.

The increased procurement costs are expected to establish a new market price level. However, our well-known price-to-performance ratio will, if affected at all, likely be impacted only temporarily until the market adjusts to the new conditions. Hetzner Online has always stood for outstanding value for money, and that will not change in the future.

I am convinced that the current hardware shortage/crisis will neither significantly strengthen nor weaken our competitive position in the long term. Rather, I expect our relative position in the market to remain largely unchanged even under the new pricing structure. While short-term shifts may occur as different market participants adjust their prices at different times, I do not expect any major changes in the competitive landscape over the medium and long term.

Martin Hetzner
Founder and CEO, Hetzner Online

https://forum.hetzner.com/index.php?thread/32635-standardisierung-und-preisanpassung-unserer-server-produkte-ab-15-juni-2026-stan/&pageNo=9

Levi · 12:42PM

Typical abstract nonsense from CEO. Hetzners failure opens wide gap for new players. And they will come: better pricing, better service.

This is the cycle. Once there was online.net, latter OVH, then hetzner. It continues. The market will decide.

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