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How to report copyright for a website using Fastly
pilotsphere
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A website is using my copyrighted content and when I searched for the hosting provider it said Fastly. I think Fastly is just acting as a proxy. I contacted Fastly but no response was received.
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According to https://www.fastly.com/dmca-dsa https://support.fastly.com/s/report-abuse-case (which directs users to [email protected]) is the way to go. If that's what you did i fear there isn't really that much other easy options. You could try to go to their upstreams and complain there. I'm doubtful this would really do a whole lot but you could try. Beyond that there's little left besides actual legal action. I guess you could also first send a strongly worded letter and hope that gets you somewhere but i reality you'll probably need a lawyer.
Depending on the registrar, that's also possibly a route you could take besides what totally_not_banned mentioned.
edit: fixed my mispelling of totally_not_banned
People like you is why DMCA-free hosts exist.
Not that i know what the whole thing is about but what's the problem with @OP trying to get his work taken down if some site publishes it without authorization?
No problem, but you can do it nicely you know, just contact the owner first and ask them to remove whatever there is to be. Writing abuse letters to the registrar and hosting provider is a dick move, unless it's a blatant and deliberate theft.
Well, on one hand we don't know if @OP already attempted that and on the other hand life is short and running after people is time no one pays for, so...
I mean, unless the site is something like "OPs nude pics leak" or something like that, I'd assume first reaching out to the owner would be common sense. Then again, it does seem like common sense isn't that common now...
Depends i guess. For some random dude's (who might not even be aware of the problem) homepage... sure but if there's some kind of "work" in the classical sense (like software, art, books, ...) involved and the site in question specializes in distribution of such things i certainly wouldn't try contacting them. They know what they are doing including the consequences and contacting them is likely a waste of time anyways.
There's obviously differences. Fan pages and such are clearly a different animal and in my opinion worthy of preferential treatment but beyond that i don't see how the burden should be put on the author as far as conscious violations are concerned.
fastly will not remove the content. its just similar to cloudflare.
they may give you the web host's IP or abuse email and/or forward it to the web host.
There is no point in complaining. AI is already using all the content online without proper credits or visits to author sources. Good luck complaining about corporations!
It's not that a part of my site was copied, the whole site with exact wordings was copied. > @luckypenguin said:
Ah, i see. Yeah, there's zero point in asking nicely in that situation. As @JasonM said what you sent was (as long as it ticks the boxes of a legal DMCA/EUCD complaint or at least fastly's expectation for those - you absolutely want to be formal and not just "This guy is ripping off my site!! Please do somthing!" here) probably just passed on to the actual host though.
Sadly chances are those clowns aren't doing that for just one random site but on a rather broad scale and therefore have exactly one of the mentioned DMCA ignorant hosts (innocent webmasters fearing a random takedown notice are probably at best like a single digit percentage of the target audience for those after all...) sitting behind fastly, which simply /dev/null'd your complaint.
If an amount of time that makes it reasonable to expect action (not sure what would be applied in such a scenario - there's a bunch of reference values, which as far as i remember are rather short but you'll have to dig them up yourself - but i'd personally probably expect a reaction somewhere in the 3-7 days range) you might get somewhere by making fastly "reasonably aware" (as by https://fastly.com/dmca-dsa) that "their subscriber has already received a notice of infringement from you" but ignored it making passing on communications pointless and you see no further option but to start legal proceedings (seeing no further options obviously doesn't necessarily translate to actually doing fuck all but you are making it clear that if anything further happens from your side it will be rather official and they'd be in the crossfire).
There might be another thing you can do in this situation though: Sometimes those idiots don't really copy but rather just reverse proxy the sites they are ripping off. If that's the case here and you manage to find the IP their backend uses for getting your sites data (check your logs and try to corellate acesses to their site to queries in your logs - serving a bit of data with headers indicating that it shouldn't be cached helps) you can setup your site to feed special data (maybe including something that will lead to a deranking by Google as a special thank you...) to this specific IP (personally i would probably be tempted to just make every page into browser sized goatse but i'm not entirely sure if that's advisable). In a reverse proxy setup that would instantly end up on their site and might prove to be a quicker solution than dealing with some shady host behind a CDN that feels cozy inside its safe harbor privileges.
In addition to sending DMCAs to all parties as discussed above, a couple other things that are worth doing:
I know that's a hot take since especially the bulletproof providers feel above the law -- but they are duty bound to comply with it. They don't get a free pass to enable and profit off of theft. Enough of those reports stack up and sooner or later they get raided and hauled off to jail.
I'm starting to wonder if that's you and you're getting royalties.
Not so much a hot take in my opinion but i think you shouldn't get so hung up on the bulletproof label. The times where a random mortal could just go and buy something bulletproof for a couple dollars are long, long, long gone. Where such setups still exist you can be 100% sure that a) they aren't public b) they aren't incorporated in western countries c) they are very, very resilient. This isn't about about a bunch of kids getting DMCA complaints. It's about huge amounts of money since otherwise it's just not worth it.