TL;DR version: Gmail is a potential point of failure. Why oh why do people keep trusting free services like this for such vital tasks? Save me the speech about how google apps for business isn't necessarily free, it's still a product that any home user is familiar with and easy to exploit. Minor changes, same basic product. Like a mail server is that hard to run.
Oh well, these people just keep reminding us all not to make rookie mistakes. Hindsight is 20/20, and we're all benefiting from that.
One more step I'd add to their list is "do not use any correct answers to account verification questions". I use random strings for things like mother's maiden name and the name of my high school mascot and such...
I added 2-factor auth to my Gmail account specifically because it was hacked in 2010. I had a relatively strong password at the time. It was 16 characters and a combo of letters, numbers and non-alphanumeric characters. Considering I'm not a valuable target to anybody, I doubt they spent time to brute force my password. I have always suspected it was a security vulnerability in Gmail that compromised my account, and if that's the case, they could bypass 2-factor auth as well. This pretty much proves it in my mind. Google started heavily promoting 2-factor auth in 2010 when LOTS of Gmail accounts were being hacked. It's their security theater.
I had a keylogger on my machine a few years ago and lost a gmail account because of it. Tried to recover it and google support was pretty crappy. The stupid thing is that you can change your security questions and backup e-mail addresses in GMail whenever you want. It was my fault for getting the keylogger, but I still feel like I should have been able to recover my account...
Doubt it was a keylogger, I ran scans straight after and tripled check everything, regardless, I got my account back through recovery email 1 hour later.
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@nabo said: That's one of the reasons I don't use Google for mail. It's just a too big target.
I would say that Google Mail is far more secure (in terms of hacker attacks) than anything you (or me) could set up. As long as you use 2-factor-authorization, random answers to the security questions and a secure backup mail address you should be fine.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksAgreed. Cloudflare is all hype and ran by hacks.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksTL;DR version: Gmail is a potential point of failure. Why oh why do people keep trusting free services like this for such vital tasks? Save me the speech about how google apps for business isn't necessarily free, it's still a product that any home user is familiar with and easy to exploit. Minor changes, same basic product. Like a mail server is that hard to run.
Oh well, these people just keep reminding us all not to make rookie mistakes. Hindsight is 20/20, and we're all benefiting from that.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksAt least they write a detailed post and keep their users updated.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksOne more step I'd add to their list is "do not use any correct answers to account verification questions". I use random strings for things like mother's maiden name and the name of my high school mascot and such...
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksHmm, bypassed Google's 2 Factor Authentication? That's a troubling thought, hope that's not how they got in. :|
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksI added 2-factor auth to my Gmail account specifically because it was hacked in 2010. I had a relatively strong password at the time. It was 16 characters and a combo of letters, numbers and non-alphanumeric characters. Considering I'm not a valuable target to anybody, I doubt they spent time to brute force my password. I have always suspected it was a security vulnerability in Gmail that compromised my account, and if that's the case, they could bypass 2-factor auth as well. This pretty much proves it in my mind. Google started heavily promoting 2-factor auth in 2010 when LOTS of Gmail accounts were being hacked. It's their security theater.
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0 • Disagree Agree Thanks@BuzzPoet The same CRAP happened to me u_u Is sad, and a shame :S
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksSocial Engineering yet again,
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0 • Disagree Agree Thanks@BuzzPoet: My personal gmail was hacked back then as well, and I could never figure out how they did it. I enabled 2fa straight after I got it back.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksMaybe you guys had keylogger on your computer? Or your 10 emergency keycodes have been leaked? :D
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksI had a keylogger on my machine a few years ago and lost a gmail account because of it. Tried to recover it and google support was pretty crappy. The stupid thing is that you can change your security questions and backup e-mail addresses in GMail whenever you want. It was my fault for getting the keylogger, but I still feel like I should have been able to recover my account...
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksDoubt it was a keylogger, I ran scans straight after and tripled check everything, regardless, I got my account back through recovery email 1 hour later.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksThat's one of the reasons I don't use Google for mail. It's just a too big target.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksI would say that Google Mail is far more secure (in terms of hacker attacks) than anything you (or me) could set up. As long as you use 2-factor-authorization, random answers to the security questions and a secure backup mail address you should be fine.
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0 • Disagree Agree ThanksThat's why I don't set-up a mailserver but pay someone to do so ;-)
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