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Help us test our "LowEndBox" servers

edited April 2012 in Providers

Hello,

I am fairly new to LET community, I should introduce myself. Hi, I'm Eric Andrews, the owner of CubixCloud Web Services. We're currently working to update our website, services, and team. I thought I would find some better interest from the LowEndTalk community rather then posting on WebHostingTalk. (I hope this is allowed on LET, hehe)

We need about 5 users to runs some tests on our new Chicago OpenVZ servers. (information not currently available on our website) I would like to know your thoughts on overall speed, network, control, etc. Posting your results in this forum would probably benefit anyone interested as well as help us to get a good idea of what's going on from a customer point-of-view. If you have any suggestions, compliments, complaints, etc, we would love to hear them! First 5 to e-mail me with interest would get access to a 1GB "LowEndServer".

Please let me know if you have any questions about this beta test or about the servers, we would be happy to answer them here :)

E-mail: [email protected]

CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
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  • Thanks for the emails and all of the interest - a few more server still available

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • DanielMDanielM Disabled

    I have sent you an email. Yet to receive a reply.

  • edited April 2012

    Sorry guys for the late replies, I had something to do. Getting back to replies now :)

    We have received more then enough interest in this. Thanks for your help - LET community is great :)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • debugdebug Member

    Just got setup, I'll post a quick benchmark:

    -19:08:58- [root@snapshot ~]# wget freevps.us/downloads/bench.sh -O - -o /dev/nu                                             ll|bash
    CPU model :  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         950  @ 3.07GHz
    Number of cores : 4
    CPU frequency :  3066.818 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 1024 MB
    Total amount of swap : 0 MB
    System uptime :   4 min,
    Download speed from CacheFly: 78.0MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Atlanta GA: 15.7MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Dallas, TX: 15.3MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 7.25MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, London, UK: 4.84MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 8.52MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 8.47MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 21.9MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 34.8MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 42.0MB/s
    I/O speed :  89.9 MB/s
    -19:10:40- [root@snapshot ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdat                                             async
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 11.7794 s, 91.2 MB/s
    -19:11:44- [root@snapshot ~]#
    

    Hello, World.

    Thanked by 1EricCubixCloud
  • flyfly Member

    io looks a bit low for a new server but i guess its bc everyone is runnign tests at the same time

    Thanked by 1EricCubixCloud
  • might be that it is running raid 1.

    Inception Hosting Xen VPS in UK | NL | Miami | Phoenix | Windows/Linux/BSD | also check out lowendspirit €3.00 p/year OpenVZ in UK/NL/IT/USA

  • might be that it is running raid 1.

    These servers are running RAID1 with 1TB drives. Could you suggest another solution?

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • debugdebug Member

    ioping as well:

    -19:22:15- [root@snapshot ~]# ioping -c 10 /
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=1 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=2 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=3 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=4 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=5 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=6 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=7 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=8 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=9 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (simfs /vz/private/114): request=10 time=0.1 ms
    
    --- / (simfs /vz/private/114) ioping statistics ---
    10 requests completed in 9002.1 ms, 8130 iops, 31.8 mb/s
    min/avg/max/mdev = 0.1/0.1/0.2/0.0 ms
    

    I'll run the dd again in a few hours, as well.

    Hello, World.

    Thanked by 1EricCubixCloud
  • We're still answering e-mail questions and sending out the login details to everyone who has e-mailed us. Sorry for the delay. Thanks to all so far for posting benchmark and other results :D

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member
    edited April 2012

    @EricCubixCloud that is rather worrying for a host to be asking if there is a better option than raid 1.

    Raid 10?

    Or I suppose raid 1 is fine if you only ever intend to put <20 VPS p/node but given that it is openvz and you describe 1GB as an LEB it is highly doubtful.

    If you really want to test your node put 50 users on it and see how well it does :)

    Inception Hosting Xen VPS in UK | NL | Miami | Phoenix | Windows/Linux/BSD | also check out lowendspirit €3.00 p/year OpenVZ in UK/NL/IT/USA

  • @AnthonySmith said:

    Or I suppose raid 1 is fine if you only ever intend to put <20 VPS p/node but given that it is openvz and you describe 1GB as an LEB it is highly doubtful.

    If you really want to test your node put 50 users on it and see how well it does :)

    I understand what you're saying about RAID - I shouldn't have worded it that way, what I was really asking was your opinion. Thanks for your input. :)

    Our 24GB i7 nodes will have a maximum of 30 users.

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • To all who are interested, I should have mentioned, our 1GB servers will be around $12. We can let them got as a LowEnd sale for $7.

    To all who I gave a 256mb, 512mb, or 768mb test server to: here will be our regular pricing.

    256MB: $4 512MB: $7 768MB: $9 1GB: $12

    Please let me know if you have any more questions. All thoughts and suggestions are taken into consideration. Please keep in mind we're still in a testing stage. :)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • Why do all these beta tests thing have such a low user limit yet more people always seem to get them.

    I know, I'm Dale Maily.

  • @Taylor said: Why do all these beta tests thing have such a low user limit yet more people always seem to get them.

    Good question! Sorry, I figured 5 was enough but once I saw the interest I figured many more opinions and suggestions would be beneficial. We did have to cut it off at a certain point though.

    Have you e-mailed me?

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • ah ok...

    But not 30 on raid 1 though I hope :)

    Inception Hosting Xen VPS in UK | NL | Miami | Phoenix | Windows/Linux/BSD | also check out lowendspirit €3.00 p/year OpenVZ in UK/NL/IT/USA

  • JacobJacob Member
    edited April 2012

    Honestly, RAID 1 Is not that bad aslong as you have decent harddrives and you keep the Data Write/Read Hoggers to a minimum, Otherwise you will have issues.

    I also disagree, We are running 40 Containers on this node and It is RAID 1.

    dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=16k count=64k conv=fdatasync && rm -rf test 65536+0 records in 65536+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 10.9559 seconds, 98.0 MB/s

    top - 19:04:06 up 6 days, 2:37, 1 user, load average: 1.79, 1.61, 1.36 Tasks: 1323 total, 2 running, 1320 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie Cpu(s): 8.2%us, 8.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 81.6%id, 0.7%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.5%si, 0.0%st Mem: 16391800k total, 15138052k used, 1253748k free, 1064156k buffers Swap: 18481144k total, 1608k used, 18479536k free, 9933072k cached

    @AnthonySmith said: ah ok...

    But not 30 on raid 1 though I hope :)

    Thanked by 1EricCubixCloud
  • @EricCubixCloud said: Have you e-mailed me?

    Of cause not I took your post at full value.

    I know, I'm Dale Maily.

  • @Jacob said: Honestly, RAID 1 Is not that bad aslong as you have decent harddrives and you keep the Data Write/Read Hoggers to a minimum, Otherwise you will have issues.

    I also disagree, We are running 40 Containers on this node and It is RAID 1.

    I agree, thanks so much for your input.

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • Additionally, you could upgrade to at least RAID5/6 with a couple more drives and double or triple the amount of containers you can comfortably fit on a modern node.

    I am no longer affiliated with IPXcore.
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  • @Damian said: Additionally, you could upgrade to at least RAID5/6 with a couple more drives and double or triple the amount of containers you can comfortably fit on a modern node.

    Thanks for your suggestion. We're going to see how it goes for now - around 30 users. The speeds have proven to be quite good considering it is a software RAID1 without a high cache like most expensive RAID card setup (the I/O file they are writing sticks in the cache and it shows an I/O speed of nearly 300MB/s or whatever it may be. However, it does not really effect actual performance from what I've seen.)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • JackJack Member

    Hey Eric,

    Are you just starting VPS's?

    I have seen your domain's been registered a while?

  • @EricCubixCloud said: However, it does not really effect actual performance from what I've seen.

    People around here like their large numbers, even though they'll never actually have any realistic utilization of them :)

    I am no longer affiliated with IPXcore.
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  • @DotVPS said: Are you just starting VPS's?

    I have seen your domain's been registered a while?

    We began with web hosting and some other services. Now finally starting up a new node for VPS - focussing more on quality and rather then working with other companies, we're now beginning our own custom servers and such :)

    I have many other domains too - what does registration date mean now a days? :P

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • liamwithersliamwithers Member
    edited April 2012

    Speeds seem pretty solid from what I've seen so far.. downloaded the 200mb cachefly file just to be different :P.

    [root@ChiBeta233 ~]# wget cachefly.cachefly.net/200mb.test --21:45:43-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/200mb.test Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175 Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 209715200 (200M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to:200mb.test' 100%[=======================================>] 209,715,200 71.8M/s in 2.8s 21:45:46 (71.8 MB/s) - 200mb.test' saved [209715200/209715200]

    From what I've been seeing, i/o has been pretty consistent to these results too:

    [root@ChiBeta233 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 12.0929 seconds, 88.8 MB/s

    About to get off to bed, but I'll be running lots more tests tomorrow :), hope everything goes well Eric!

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  • @liamwithers said: From what I've been seeing, i/o has been pretty consistent to these results too:

    Hey Liam! Glad to hear this - those speeds look great :)

    @liamwithers said: I'll be running lots more tests tomorrow :)

    This is great, please run as many tests as you would like :) Enjoy!

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • DanielMDanielM Disabled

    Here is my Initial Results. Not bad..

    http://pastie.org/3731947

  • AmfyAmfy Member

    My results are at https://piratenpad.org/ro/r.bjxyLxFqxjMwOHJ9 (maybe I will update some in a few hours)

    Anycast DNS => DNS4 or Rage4

  • @DanielM said: Here is my Initial Results. Not bad..

    Thanks!

    @Amfy said: (maybe I will update some in a few hours)

    Great results so far. Thanks for putting in the comments there. I see some users making use of almost the full 1Gbps :)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • dnomdnom Member

    @EricCubixCloud said: I see some users making use of almost the full 1Gbps

    In, out or both? I'm wondering if anyone is testing the Rx side. Test file? @EricCubixCloud

  • @EricCubixCloud: How about some more test slots, this time for a small fee, say 1 "testing" month at 50% off or 75% off, etc.?


    I don't understand why more LEB providers don't have RAID 5/6/60 and prefer SW RAID1 or RAID10; the former gives you redundancy AND blazing read+write speeds. I assume it's because hardware controllers coupled with the decent number of drives needed is expensive and it's cheaper/faster to roll a 2/4-disk SW raid setup?

  • dnomdnom Member

    @quirkyquark said: How about some more test slots, this time for a small fee, say 1 "testing" month at 50% off or 75% off, etc.?

    +1 This way you will also be sure that the testers will actually use them for the month, not just test and leave idle for the rest of the month. On second thought lots people here buy VPS's that they don't need and probably will never use :D

  • DamianDamian Member
    edited April 2012

    @quirkyquark said: I assume it's because hardware controllers coupled with the decent number of drives needed is expensive and it's cheaper/faster to roll a 2/4-disk SW raid setup?

    While it's outright cheaper $$$ to skip hardware raid, I've found that the $400 to $700 expense for a proper hardware RAID card is well worth the added value. Don't even need to use SAS drives; enterprise SATA is fine, unless you're trying to create impressive numbers for some reason.

    @EricCubixCloud: If you guys are in this for the long haul, I would recommend upgrading to at least a basic hardware RAID of some sort. It will pay off in the long run.

    I am no longer affiliated with IPXcore.
  • @quirkyquark said: How about some more test slots, this time for a small fee, say 1 "testing" month

    Not a bad idea, thanks! I have been still getting e-mails even though I said I've had to cut off the test servers (for new applicants). The reason for not making users pay is because we're still working out the bugs. After some updates we're doing today, maybe we can consider the servers "ready for business" ;)

    @quirkyquark said: is expensive and it's cheaper/faster to roll a 2/4-disk SW raid setup?

    I think you're correct. I've never looked into all the details but I'm not sure you would see as many LowEnd 512-1024mb servers (with plenty hard disk) anymore. As I've said above: Average I/O is normally around 65Mb/s (from what I've seen with other providers). There are providers who use Hardware RAID cards with high caches. Then, the I/O file they are writing stays in the cache and it shows an I/O speed of nearly 200MB/s or whatever it may be. However, it does not really effect actual performance.

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • @Damian said: I would recommend upgrading to at least a basic hardware RAID of some sort.

    Thanks for the suggestion! We will consider hardware RAID for our near-future servers :)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • @dnom said: This way you will also be sure that the testers will actually use them for the month, not just test and leave idle for the rest of the month.

    Good point. I was just going to terminate the server after a few days.

    I may offer this to anyone who has e-mailed me (still is emailing) since the cut off time yesterday. 50% off for a month.

    Unofficial pricing: I'll offer 512MB to these test users for $3.95. 512MB RAM 30GB Disk 500GB Bandwidth Linux OpenVZ + SolusVM 1000Mbps Network

    E-mail [email protected] if you're still interested.

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • @Damian said: I would recommend upgrading to at least a basic hardware RAID of some sort. It will pay off in the long run

    +1, even if md is good for raid1 or raid10, offloading the hard work to the hardware is a good thing :)

    IperWeb & Prometeus, Hosting Provider since 1997. iwStack cloud infrastructure
  • Five 512mb test servers available here for $3.98/month

    http://clients.cubixcloud.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=80

    Please let me know if you have any further concerns. We're taking all suggestions and information into consideration. Big thanks to the LET community :)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • JacobJacob Member

    I think you need a new Website Design, It's not the nicest of templates out there.

    Just sharing my suggestions and opinions.

  • DanielMDanielM Disabled

    @Jacob said: Just sharing my suggestions and opinions.

    "EaseVPS.com" Website isnt fantasic either.

    Just sharing my Opinion......

  • DamianDamian Member
    edited April 2012

    The low-end market is a niche and quite focused. Most people who are in the market for an low-end VPS already know what they're looking for.

    Therefore, website appearance may not be that big of an attraction to most low-end customers. I think Hostigation and that one place that begins with a P, take this to an "extreme" with their simple and/or boring or otherwise unflashy websites, and seem to do well.

    I am no longer affiliated with IPXcore.
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  • edited April 2012

    @Jacob said: I think you need a new Website Design,

    I think I have already stated we're working on a new website :) It's in the works and will be released with the new VPS.

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • JackJack Member

    @DanielM said: "EaseVPS.com" Website isnt fantasic either.

    Just sharing my Opinion......

    Have you seen the design easevps uses before?

  • Tinyvz has the most simple design.

  • @DotVPS said: Have you seen the design easevps uses before?

    Sorry, are you asking me? I have seen it just recently. It's very... green. :)

    CubixCloud is working on a new site that takes things to a very simplistic level. I love the point @Damian brings up! Lets focus on website content and service quality rather then the website design. As long as it's all there and the colours aren't extremely distracting, etc, it's all good. I appreciate all well done designs too :)

    Here is an example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6514943/Screenshots/6cm0qh1_rz44.png

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • TaylorTaylor Member
    edited April 2012

    @EricCubixCloud said: Here is an example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6514943/Screenshots/6cm0qh1_rz44.png

    Multicraft on the top right O_O

    I know, I'm Dale Maily.

  • @Taylor said: Multicraft on the time right O_O

    I'm sorry? I don't understand your grammar. This image was meant to be an example of the website I am building. Lets consider current page contents (which happens to be about Multicraft) inaccurate.

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
  • @EricCubixCloud said: Lets focus on .... service quality rather then the website design.

    Exactly. Hence why I will freely admit that our website is somewhat crappy: I spend more of my time tuning things and providing support than making the website shiny.

    I am no longer affiliated with IPXcore.
  • @Damian said: tuning things and providing support than making the website shiny.

    This is great! Unless you're trying to attract the "non-techs" or "non- web hosting gurus" hahah. I do like your website at IPXcore, I must admit :) It's more then "good enough" :)

    CubixCloud Web Services - [email protected]
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