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★ Internxt SEND - Securely share large files in total privacy for free ★
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★ Internxt SEND - Securely share large files in total privacy for free ★

InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep
edited July 3 in General

Hello LET 👋🏻,

We have been around here from a while on LET and today we are Introducing Internxt Send, our brand-new encrypted file transfer services - Privately & securely share files with anyone - completely for ★ FREE ★.

Highlights :

  • Send Truely Encrypted Files
  • Send large files upto 5GB in size
  • 2 weeks retention time
  • No registration or signup required
  • Simple and Easy to use GUI
  • Share link directly or send it via email
  • More features coming soon


Internxt SEND was selected as Top Launch on Product Hunt.



Internxt’s mission is to help shape a world that respects humanity’s privacy rights. The right to privacy is a fundamental right, and we want to ensure that it truly remains like that. To do so, we are releasing a series of services, which all have the common goal of helping humanity protect that fundamental right. Internxt Drive, Photos & Send are only the beginning.


We are hoping that sharing our service on vibrant community like LET can help us to improve and serve our users for better. Feel free to get in touch with us here or DM if you have any query or feedback.

Thanks :smiley:

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  • fvsegarrafvsegarra Member

    nice

  • ZyraZyra Member

    cool, bookmarked it just incase i find use for it

  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    Nice one!

  • Great!

    An option to be able to download individual files would be great. Also, file preview for image and pdf.

  • Just tried with 4 image files.
    It says download completed but I see nothing downloaded.

    Sent from the same browser btw. Opened a new tab to download. If that makes any difference.

  • Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    You would probably need to audit their source code to find out more about that. Until then you can only trust them or not (probably) :/

    https://github.com/internxt

  • bkjbkj Member

    I’ll give a better service which can do way more than 5GB and files can retain for way longer.
    StorJ
    For encryption: gpg

  • angstromangstrom Member, Moderator
    edited July 3

    @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    A fair point

    Although their announcement text is a bit over the top (if I may say so), note that they don't explicitly say that this product (Send) is zero-knowledge, in contrast to their main product (Drive), for which they explicitly claim zero-knowledge

    Frankly, I just take this to be a free easy way of sending a big file to someone (for those who wouldn't know how to do this in another way), but the usual caveats about privacy/security apply

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Largely in javascript and some Python, what could go wrong?
    But as I want to say something positive too I'll note that at least they used Typescript (basically a slightly less insecure javascript dialect) for a large part.

    @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    Theory (I strongly hope), because in real life nobody, uhm, only a few uhm not everybody is stupid enough to have that kind of trust in some company (and a new and unknown one at that).

    Simple solution: just do the encryption yourself. "But, uhm, what would I need Internxt for then?" you ask? Uhm, short term storage and (maybe, didn't look at it) a nice interface/GUI /vaguely hand waving

    (Seriously though, I guess they'll have some success, not because their service is great or valuable but because there are enough stupid people out there)

  • Halo11Halo11 Member
    edited July 4

    Looks like an iteration of Firefox-Send. Mozilla discontinued the service, but open-sourced the code for anyone to use.

    For true "privacy", host your own version on your own server:

    https://gitlab.com/timvisee/send
    https://github.com/timvisee/ffsend

    Thanked by 2szarka martheen
  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep

    @dotcomUNDERGROUND said:
    Just tried with 4 image files.
    It says download completed but I see nothing downloaded.

    Sent from the same browser btw. Opened a new tab to download. If that makes any difference.

    It will show downloaded in UI as it prepares the ZIP file for you and downloads it, then you should see actual download box which will ask you for the file save location and then done.

  • @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    If you are worried about them reading the files then upload some files that should never be read

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    So If I understand this correctly - the main, flagship product is still bugged like hell, there is no WebDAV support that was coming "very soon" like a year ago yet you still had time to create brand new product?
    Confused.

  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep
    edited July 5

    For our SEND service, rather than moving the file in a workable or raw form between users we instead encrypt the mnemonic of the file you would like to share (and store it encrypted) with a code that goes in the link.

    We do not store the code with the mnemonic or the shared file, instead it gets attached to the link. Only those who have the link containing the code can correctly regenerate the decryption key and download the content without corrupting it.

    We do have plan to make this service more functional but it depends completely upon user's interest as this is free product and is to support our main service ie. Internxt Drive .

  • iKeyZiKeyZ Member

    Is this an altered version of Droppy? Seems to carry a lot of the design/views of that script with a few UI changes.

  • LisoLiso Member

    I see this as soon I tried to download the file.

    And nothing is downloaded, I don't see pop up telling me to save file.

  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    A friend of mine also wanted to download a file from a link I sent them using Internxt Send and it didn't work. Download showed complete but nothing happened. Had to resort to Koofr to send the file.

  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep
    edited July 5

    @JabJab said:
    So If I understand this correctly - the main, flagship product is still bugged like hell, there is no WebDAV support that was coming "very soon" like a year ago yet you still had time to create brand new product?
    Confused.

    There is no denying that there were bugs and we have been working hard to rectify them. No good service is bug free, specially if it is deployed on large scale. We are expanding, our main priority is to keep our service bug free and enjoyable but on the other hand we also have to make sure that we provide more value for money to our users, hence we will keep adding new features but in controlled manner.
    We are aware and we are expanding our team of engineers to handle all such issues quickly.
    If you are our user and you find bug then I request you to submit to [email protected], it will help us to improve.

    @Ympker said:
    A friend of mine also wanted to download a file from a link I sent them using Internxt Send and it didn't work. Download showed complete but nothing happened. Had to resort to Koofr to send the file.

    Can you share link to that file in DM ?

    @Liso said:
    I see this as soon I tried to download the file.

    And nothing is downloaded, I don't see pop up telling me to save file.

    Devs have been notified to investigate such situation.

  • @johnnyquestion said:

    @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    If you are worried about them reading the files then upload some files that should never be read

    Logic.

  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep

    @TimboJones said:

    @johnnyquestion said:

    @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    If you are worried about them reading the files then upload some files that should never be read

    Logic.

    Need not to worry, we can't read files uploaded by users as well we are not interested to do so either.

  • @Internxt said:

    Need not to worry, we can't read files uploaded by users as well we are not interested to do so either.

    And it is easy enough to test that theory with a set of carefully crafted files

  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep

    We are committed to privacy and its part of our system by design. But for the skeptical one, I suggest them to encrypt their files before upload. Then you will get double encryption :smile:

  • Felt sad that I missed to grab your lFT Deals :(

  • risharderisharde Member

    @Internxt said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @johnnyquestion said:

    @stevewatson301 said:
    Time for a quick rant.

    Am I the only one wondering how this is encrypted? A quick look at the URL doesn’t show URL fragments being used, which means it’s server side encryption. Which negates the privacy aspect of it because there’s none if the provider has both the key and the encrypted file — it essentially means they can read the files.

    If you are worried about them reading the files then upload some files that should never be read

    Logic.

    Need not to worry, we can't read files uploaded by users as well we are not interested to do so either.

    Does this in theory mean this site can be used to share illegal data? It wouldn't be the end of the world but just wondering if the company will have legal issues for such a service.

  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep

    @risharde said:
    Does this in theory mean this site can be used to share illegal data? It wouldn't be the end of the world but just wondering if the company will have legal issues for such a service.

    We are committed about privacy of our users. Like any big service, such issues are part of workflow. If there are good people then some abusers are always there. If there is something, we generally sort out with client and since we don't have access to files, we are not responsible for its content either. But yes, we do not encourage anything illegal on our platform.

    Thanked by 1risharde
  • plumbergplumberg Member

    @Internxt said:

    @risharde said:
    Does this in theory mean this site can be used to share illegal data? It wouldn't be the end of the world but just wondering if the company will have legal issues for such a service.

    We are committed about privacy of our users. Like any big service, such issues are part of workflow. If there are good people then some abusers are always there. If there is something, we generally sort out with client and since we don't have access to files, we are not responsible for its content either. But yes, we do not encourage anything illegal on our platform.

    Genuinely interested to know... how will you know there is something illegal happening on your platform when you claim complete privacy?

    Thanked by 1dev077
  • risharderisharde Member
    edited July 8

    @plumberg said:

    @Internxt said:

    @risharde said:
    Does this in theory mean this site can be used to share illegal data? It wouldn't be the end of the world but just wondering if the company will have legal issues for such a service.

    We are committed about privacy of our users. Like any big service, such issues are part of workflow. If there are good people then some abusers are always there. If there is something, we generally sort out with client and since we don't have access to files, we are not responsible for its content either. But yes, we do not encourage anything illegal on our platform.

    Genuinely interested to know... how will you know there is something illegal happening on your platform when you claim complete privacy?

    This is always the case with privacy claims and us having pitchforks particularly at this particular company is not going to have even a drop in the bucket of an impact. Privacy is greatly tied into the legal system from what I understand so for example, let's assume someone posts something 'illegal' (God forbid its child porn as an example), the encryption is how the company MAY not be held liable but if it a report of the link is made to the local authorities, privacy goes out the door sooner or later (in most countries). While I like privacy, there is no way I would even have a little bit of respect for a country that thinks for example that child porn is okay - that will never be okay with me. So again, privacy really seems to mean 'if you do stuff that isn't illegal, you get to keep your privacy'.

    P.S this is why I never built a public link sharing system because you'd be surprised how much foolish humans exist on this planet.

  • szarkaszarka Member

    Not your encryption keys, not your private data. It's as simple as that. Trust no one.

  • InternxtInternxt Member, Host Rep

    As already mentioned, we are not interested in user's data. No tricks, no hidden things, private by default, secure by design, that’s how Internxt works. We are giving simple solution to encrypt files and send, it will improve with time and will have more features. For the concerned, they can upload already encrypted files and enjoy double encryption.

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