Opera promoting monoculture

GIANT_CRAB

http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2013/02/13/webkit

Opera has made an official announcement that they will promote monoculture through switching from Presto to WebKit. This is because their users consist of only 1% to 2% of the market while most of the market users are using WebKit based browsers such as Google Chrome.

Thus, Google had sort of indirectly force Opera to switch from their amazing Presto, which is able to withstand 120 tabs opening, to WebKit, which can only handle up to 20 tabs before crashing. Fact: Presto engine is the best engine, WebKit is terrible.

gsrdgrdghd

@GIANT_CRAB said: which can only handle up to 20 tabs before crashing.

Just opened 20 tabs in my Chrome for fun, they were all loaded within 10 seconds and nothing crashed.

HalfEatenPie

I'd have to agree with @gsrdgrdghd.

GIANT_CRAB

@gsrdgrdghd said: Just opened 20 tabs in my Chrome for fun, they were all loaded within 10 seconds and nothing crashed.

You probably had a good core and good RAM count. Still, you can't open 120 tabs on chrome but you can do that on Opera.

joodle

@gsrdgrdghd said: Just opened 20 tabs in my Chrome for fun, they were all loaded within 10 seconds and nothing crashed.

I don't know how many tabs i've just opened but i kept pressing CTRL + T for 1 minute lol, Chrome didn't crash for me

Chrome tab bar:

nstorm

Doh... Don't care about tabs, don't open more than 15 of them anyways. But using Opera as main browser and like how Presto renders pages better. Hope they'll at least keep an interface&features of Opera. Don't like how minimalistic chrome looks and so used to Opera hotkeys and features.

ztec

I always have more then 20 tabs open, never had a problem. With firefox I had though.

Satellite

@joodle 120 empty tabs is meaningless. Try loading 120 tabs with actual websites in them.

Centaur

This is really bad news. Presto is much better than webkit. Shame on Opera succumbing to peer pressure. I think diversity is better. And this almost seems like webkit will be the next IE sort of, in the future, where they dictate what goes.

Microlinux

What on earth do you need 120 tabs for?

joodle

@Satellite said: @joodle 120 empty tabs is meaningless. Try loading 120 tabs with actual websites in them.

Then what? my pc can handle that fine

texteditor

@Microlinux said: What on earth do you need 120 tabs for?

One day when the shortage comes, you'll wish you'd hoarded tabs too

raindog308

Wait...Opera is still around?

Wintereise

I regularly have 250+ tabs, too lazy to close anything.

Firefox user here though, so herp a derp.

Zen

Not only is Opera way behind, sluggish and absolute crap, you're also spewing some insane bullshit.

(each tab is of this thread)

And I can do the same thing on my dual core '04 laptop.

gsrdgrdghd

Well while Opera might have been slower, it probably doesn't render LET like this:

jarland

@Zen said: Not only is Opera way behind, sluggish and absolute crap, you're also spewing some insane bullshit.

This. Not the best time to side with the underdog to be all anti-establishment. It's only cool when the underdog doesn't suck.

@gsrdgrdghd said: Well while Opera might have been slower, it probably doesn't render LET like this:

Neither does IE, Firefox, or Safari. Chrome has been acting up lately.

And seriously people, close some freaking tabs. You're not actively browsing 120 websites.

nstorm

I regularly have 250+ tabs, too lazy to close anything.

I wonder how do you people navigate through these...

Zen

@nstorm said: I wonder how do you people navigate through these...

To switch to the next tab: Ctrl+Tab or Ctrl+PgDown

To switch to the previous tab: Ctrl+Shift+Tab or Ctrl+PgUp

To switch to a specific tab: Ctrl+1 to Ctrl+8

To switch to the last tab: Ctrl+9

Zen

@gsrdgrdghd said: Well while Opera might have been slower, it probably doesn't render LET like this:

That's a vanilla issue, I see it mainly happens when very large images are on the page.

cloromorpho

so, opera is still arround?

nstorm

To switch to a specific tab: Ctrl+1 to Ctrl+8

With 250+ tabs? You must be having a very special keyboard. I don't have so much keys. :P

Voss

My computer ceases to function when I have around 50 tabs open in Chrome

Microlinux

And let's be honest, Google did not in any way, shape or form "force" Opera to switch to Webkit. Opera made the decision, probably because they realized pouring all kinds of effort into a browser engine with a tiny minority of the browser market was a terrible waste of engineering talent.

gsrdgrdghd

@Zen said: That's a vanilla issue, I see it mainly happens when very large images are on the page.

Is there anything i can do to fix it?

Zen

@gsrdgrdghd said: Is there anything i can do to fix it?

Usually a refresh or reopening of that tab fixes it for me, I'm pretty sure its to do with how images are rendered and relates to the automated image resizing happening either after or before something else when it shouldn't have.

If you're permanently having this issue, then it probably isn't related to what I just said :)

Amarielle

But Opera is a terrible browser. Chrome is a very good browser. Now perhaps Opera will become a good browser too...

breton

@GIANT_CRAB said: Fact: Presto engine is the best engine, WebKit is terrible.

That was fat!

fisle

Browser wars yaay! Nobody cares, use what you want.

Infinity

@Wintereise said: I regularly have 250+ tabs, too lazy to close anything.

Firefox user here though, so herp a derp.

Mmm, similar story here but not 250+, I'm not that lazy. Probably 50+ tabs at peak usage.

Roph

Not a bad decision for Opera. It takes 1 minute+ to open for me, and constantly freezes up for a few seconds before continuing. Completely clean install. Awful browser; I see why nobody uses it.