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OneProvider - VPS plans at $4.50/mo - 75% off for life!

OneProvider - VPS plans at $4.50/mo - 75% off for life!

SpiritSpirit Administrator
edited October 2012 in Providers

I just noticed this thread http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1205302 and I am wondering if anyone tryed them already. So far I have seen some of their 50% off offers but first time 75% off. I am wondering if their "OneCloud™ infrastructure which allows you to open/close VPS nodes in any of the now 17 VPS locations total" allow to switch between locations later.


OneCloud-vCL-01: 1 vCore - 512 Mb RAM DDR3 / burst to 1024 Mb - 50Gb HDD Space -1 IP Address - 1TB Transfer @ 100Mbps at $18 $4.50/month

OneCloud-vCL-02: 2 vCore - 1024 Mb RAM DDR3 / burst to 2048 Mb- 150Gb HDD Space -1 IP Address - 2TB Transfer @ 100Mbps at $25 $6.25/month

Locations available: Europe: Paris, France - London, UK - Amsterdam, NL (geo-located) - Munich, DE - Rome, IT - Valencia, ES - Kiev, UA North-America: Atlanta, GA - Baltimore, MD - Chicago, IL - Dallas, CO - Los Angeles, CA - Phoenix, AZ - Montreal, QC - Seattle, WA - Miami, FL Oceania: Sydney, AU

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  • 96MB review about them:

    http://www.96mb.com/96mb-low-end-vps-review-part-53-one-provider-cloud/

    Note their Montreal plan is based in the new OVH Montreal DC.

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  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    Awesome, thanks @Spirit, I'ma try out the Ukraine location. That looks interesting, I can probably find the other locations with other providers, I'll report back.

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  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff
    edited October 2012

    So the overall service so far, after literally like ~10 minutes, it's very snappy, support is very fast. It was a little confusing assigning a different location but I got it in the end, and I've got an OpenVZ container in Kiev, it looks like they're using Virtualizor, and it's plugin for WHMCS.

    I'll run some bench's and stuff tomorrow.

    EDIT: I've set a serverbear to run, let's hope @serverbear gets it public sometime.

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  • @Infinity said: I've set a serverbear to run, let's hope @serverbear gets it public sometime.

    I'll add them to the queue, I originally got put off by the monster list of locations.

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    Their OpenVZ

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  • 4.50 for ukraine.. That seems really nice. @Infinity how does it perform? And how the hell do I order it, I can't sem to change the location from London.

    Any idea who are they reselling? As far as I can tell, teh dedi's are resold from the major players on the market, even some in Bulgaria (even they are discounted at the moment by 10%).

  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited October 2012

    @Alex_LiquidHost said: And how the hell do I order it, I can't sem to change the location from London.

    Look at description near "London" option: "This is the default location - you can change it once the VM is created"

    It would be nice to have test IPs for every offered vps location.

  • @Spirit said: This is the default location - you can change it once the VM is created"

    I can confirm that, but sometimes some of their locations run out of IPs and you will get an error while provisioning. When I first used them, they had so many issues and their control panels were basically useless, but they have been making a lot of changes since. Ticket was not instant reply but was fast enough for what I need (few hours to half a day).

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  • bitbit Member

    It looks like they ran out of London IP's, on my order.

  • Do they really have that offer available in Australia? 1TB for $5 seems really unlikely for down here.

  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited October 2012

    https://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/inetnum/178.86.20.88-178.86.20.95.html IP space used for Ukraine

    https://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/inetnum/158.58.172.0-158.58.173.255.html IP space used for Italy

    France is... OVH :)

    @jamson I will let you know in few minutes.

    Update. Yes, I got Australian VPS with IP from next block:

    route: 27.50.64.0/19 descr: One Provider Pty Ltd origin: AS45671 mnt-by: MAINT-SAU-NET-AU changed: [email protected] 20100724 source: APNIC

     
      7    16 ms    23 ms    16 ms  10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.vie1.he.net [193.203.0.185]
      8    23 ms    21 ms    23 ms  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.prg1.he.net [184.105.222.138]
      9    34 ms    28 ms    27 ms  10gigabitethernet5-2.core1.fra1.he.net [184.105.213.233]
     10    39 ms    45 ms    49 ms  10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.par2.he.net [72.52.92.26]
     11   121 ms   124 ms   124 ms  10gigabitethernet7-1.core1.ash1.he.net [184.105.213.93]
     12   185 ms   194 ms   185 ms  10gigabitethernet7-4.core1.pao1.he.net [184.105.213.177]
     13   192 ms   182 ms   191 ms  10gigabitethernet3-4.core1.sjc1.he.net [72.52.92.114]
     14   187 ms   187 ms   187 ms  vocus.gigabitethernet2-13.core1.sjc1.he.net [64.71.184.46]
     15   339 ms   339 ms   339 ms  ten-0-2-0-1.cor01.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.190]
     16   340 ms   339 ms   337 ms  ten-0-5-0-0.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.199.37]
     17   340 ms   340 ms   340 ms  ten-0-0-0-0.cor03.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [175.45.72.119]
     18   346 ms   338 ms   339 ms  ten-1-3-0.cor01.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.86]
     19   343 ms   341 ms   340 ms  ge-0-0-0.bdr02.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.63]
     20   340 ms   339 ms   339 ms  bdr-1-3-eth2-16.sau.net.au [114.31.200.126]
     21   342 ms   343 ms   342 ms  onecloud-70-66.aus.router.op-net.com [27.50.70.66]
     22   350 ms   342 ms   341 ms  27.50.70.xx

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  • bitbit Member

    @Spirit - seams your servers are working, can't even get mine to boot.

  • SpiritSpirit Administrator

    @bit try some other OS. I tryed Italy, Ukraine and Australia with Debian 6 however Australia didn't boot. Then I switched from Debian to Centos and Australia came up.

  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited October 2012

    Look at free -m (australian node)

    date Wed Oct 31 12:14:44 MSK 2012


    free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1048576 53612 994964 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 53612 994964 Swap: 0 0 0


    free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1024 52 971 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 52 971 Swap: 0 0 0


    CPU model : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 V2 @ 3.20GHz Number of cores : 1 CPU frequency : 3192.896 MHz Total amount of ram : 1024 MB Total amount of swap : 0 MB System uptime : 12 min, Download speed : (70.2MB/s) I/O speed : 74.5MB/s

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  • I have 2 VPSs with them for some time now, ~3 months (since they deployed them). hardly any downtime or major issues, yet.... but this promo does make me somewhat think that they are getting desperate. it was 50% off and now 75% off ?

  • Thanks @Spirit! Awfully tempted to get one now.

  • TheLinuxBugTheLinuxBug Member
    edited October 2012

    I got one, bit disappointed though because Germany is unavailable and .NL isn't .NL, its OVH. Prices on the other hand seem about right for being on cheap bandwidth. It is also annoying that the IP addresses given for .NL are in the 5.x.x.x A class, which is just ridiculous to try and use as Hamachi (a VPN client) uses these ips in their vpn product, which makes anyone who uses it unable to reach servers on those ip addresses. Haven't really had an opportunity to test the services yet as I have spent the bulk of my time so far figuring out how to move the server and then being frustrated the locations I wanted to use were either OVH or unavailable. Here's hoping it gets better....

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  • lol, 100+ location :)

    Awesome.

  • bitbit Member

    So far while testing: Montiral CA: network was not available first time I tried Baltimore: insufficient IPs on server Phoenix: OneProvider Network is currently not available.

    I have setup in: Atlanta - US Chicago - US London - GB Miami - US Montreal - CA Paris - FR
    Seattle - US Sydney - AU Valencia - ES

  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    @Alex_LiquidHost You have to go to the OneCloud manager, delete the VM then create it again and you can choose location, the most I've done is added my SSH key, and done my usual security things and run a serverbear bench overnight which failed I think, but it is really snappy.

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  • @TheLinuxBug said: I got one, bit disappointed though because Germany is unavailable and .NL isn't .NL, its OVH. Prices on the other hand seem about right for being on cheap bandwidth. It is also annoying that the IP addresses given for .NL are in the 5.x.x.x A class, which is just ridiculous to try and use as Hamachi (a VPN client) uses these ips in their vpn product, which makes anyone who uses it unable to reach servers on those ip addresses. Haven't really had an opportunity to test the services yet as I have spent the bulk of my time so far figuring out how to move the server and then being frustrated the locations I wanted to use were either OVH or unavailable. Here's hoping it gets better....

    This is not their problem, this is Hamachi being shitheads ever since the creation years ago when they were told to NOT USE PUBLICLY ROUTABLE IPs but still did it anyways

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  • AshAsh Member
    edited November 2012

    Edit - ignore that question, I was being thick.

    Going to have a play with this if the offer is still on.

  • pubcrawlerpubcrawler Banned
    edited November 2012

    I signed up overnight.

    There are NOT 100 locations. There are 17.

    Of those a bunch are unavailable for one reason or another (mainly no more IPs on servers).

    While you can move your VPS around, it probably isn't what you think. You have to delete your VPS totally then create a new one in the other location. If you have data to backup and move around that is all on you and some third party server to host the backup and restore from.

    Servers are mixed batch. By that I mean, there are some premium locations as well as some not so premium locations in the mix. Nothing severely bad, aside from maybe the Baltimore location (wonder which facility that is) and there is obligatory Hetzner and OVH locations.

    Here are my notepad notes:

    Sydney, Australia - insufficient IPs

    London, UK - Redstation Kiev, UA - ??? Really far from most anything... Paris, FR - Kimsufi Munich, DE - Hetzner Amsterdam, NL - OVH Milan, IT - seflow.it Valencia, ES - Sologigabit

    Dallas, TX - Colounlimited Miami, TX - Serverpronto.com Phoenix, AZ - unavailable Atlanta, GA - Ubiquity? Nlayer network Seattle, WA - insufficient IPs Montreal, CA - insufficient IPs Los Angeles, CA - Ubiquity / Nlayer Baltimore, MD - ?

    Support is really fast on the tickets and they communicate is intelligible English for a change. Impressed about both parts.

    Coupon code only seems to work for one account though. :(

  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012

    @pubcrawler said: You have to delete your VPS totally then create a new one in the other location. If you have data to backup and move around that is all on you and some third party server to host the backup and restore from.

    They explained a bit about this here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8405294&postcount=8

    That is correct, you can move it later to any location from the 17 mentionned in this post. The 100 others are for dedicated servers only, although we are planning future expansions for the VPS system as well. I can't confirm this yet but South America and Asia will most likely be our next targets in terms of offering at least 1 or 2 more locations for the VPS in the coming weeks. Currently, closing a node and re-opening it to another city is indeed a full reset/wipe-out of your content, so a re-setup will be necessary. A future release of our OC Manager will however take this a step further and follow this process when you choose to move your VPS: - 1-Back up your VPS data on an external server - 2-Create your new VPS instance in the new location - 3-Transfer and re-image your VPS in the new location - 4-Compare both VPS for integrity - 5-Close the first VPS The process will be seembless and as far customers are concerned, you will see a progress bar telling you where your relocation is at.

    It would be great to see some Japan added to their VPS locations :)

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    @pubcrawler said: Kiev, UA - ??? Really far from most anything...

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  • Thanks @Infinity :)

    OneProvider's offers with this discount totally get into the LEB price of the market.

    Their servers are mighty peppy (i.e. not oversold yet). Some big disk plans in there for a change too.

    Weary about buying 5 locations from one provider, at any price. But, I have some holes in places we have things and some providers on my short discontinue list for one reason or another. So, testing to see how nodes are in those places.

    @Spirit, yeppers, would love to see Tokyo. Word is they are bringing other machines up with VPS'es elsewhere, so we'll see soon I suspect.

  • @pubcrawler said: Amsterdam, NL - OVH

    So, basically, they don't have Dutch servers?

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  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012

    @joepie91 said: So, basically, they don't have Dutch servers?

    No, they don't. It's geolocated french OVH box. More about this here: http://oneprovider.com/about-us/service-level-agreement-and-faq

  • @Infinity said: Yeah, apparently it's only Geo-located IIRC.

    @Spirit said: No, they don't. It's geolocated ovh fr box.

    Then I wonder why they are falsely advertising it as NL.

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  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012

    @joepie91 said: Then I wonder why they are falsely advertising it as NL.

    Actually they don't. In offer is cleary written:

    Amsterdam, NL (geo-located)

    ...and then then further explanation in their FAQ:

    Geo-localization is a technology used to assign IP's to a server different than where the server physically is. Some of the specs you see on our dedicated server pages have this mention, indicating that the physical location of the server may differ from the one you are viewing. This allows us to offer better deals, better specs for lower costs, in areas where the prices would normally be considerably higher. Please note that we do offer servers that are physically available in all of our locations, but a custom quote request must be made prior to purchase, by contacting our support team.

    (Not that I care - just saying. I see geolocation from my point of view as pretty much useless.)

  • +1 exactly; doing the same as you

    @pubcrawler said: OneProvider's offers with this discount totally get into the LEB price of the market.

    Their servers are mighty peppy (i.e. not oversold yet). Some big disk plans in there for a change too.

    Weary about buying 5 locations from one provider, at any price. But, I have some holes in places we have things and some providers on my short discontinue list for one reason or another. So, testing to see how nodes are in those places.

  • joepie91joepie91 Member
    edited November 2012

    @Spirit said: Actually they don't.

    Yet this is where you end up if you click Europe from their front-page:

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    The VPS page does not list any different information about the countries.

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  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012

    @joepie91 said: Yet this is where you end up if you click Europe from their front-page:

    We're talking about VPS offer, don't we?

    Because with dedicated servers you pasted they offer both - cheaper geolocated servers and more expensive dedis on proper location and they made it pretty clear. Hint: http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/amsterdam-netherlands

  • joepie91joepie91 Member
    edited November 2012

    @Spirit said: We're talking about VPS offer, don't we?

    Because with dedicated servers you pasted they offer both - cheaper geolocated servers and more expensive dedis on proper location and they made it pretty clear. Hint: http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/amsterdam-netherlands

    Yes, and that is not clear at all when you click from the frontpage to 'Europe', and then on to the VPS page. The giant 'Europe' link on the frontpage doesn't say "Dedicated servers in Europe".

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  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012
    1. You said that VPS offer was false advertising as NL.
    2. I said that it wasn't, that in offer was clearly written (I will paste directly from offer) "Amsterdam, NL (geo-located)"
    3. Then you pasted their DEDIS offer where it says on frontpage only Netherland
    4. Then I told you to click at this "Netherland" where is clearly written that they offer both (geolocated and properly located) dedis, where they explain difference and pricing difference
    5. And now you complicate further.. :) Well, in their VPS offer wasn't any false advertising - it's clearly written that NL is gelocated, I (same as everyone capable to read what he pays for) ordered VPS from offer knowingly that this location is geo-located. All rest is just necessary useless complicating around "nothing".

    But you would be right if you would say that isn't even clear from their page which 17 locations out of 100 listed are available for vps - lack of informations, surely not so good. They made this clear only in their WHT offer (and there is NL - again - clearly stated as geo-located).

  • @Spirit said: You said that VPS offer was false advertising as NL.

    My remark about false advertising wasn't about the WHT offer, actually - I was refering to their main site.

    @Spirit said: Then I told you to click at this "Netherland" where is clearly written that they offer both (geolocated and properly located) dedis, where they explain difference and pricing difference

    How many people click "Netherlands" with the idea that "hey, maybe it isn't really in the Netherlands, let me check" before ordering a VPS?

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  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012

    @joepie91 read last part of my previous post carefully. You're argumenting for the sake of argument when they don't even advertise any vps location on their main site specifically. This info is missing. That's sloppy for sure but any info you got about .nl vps offering at all is from WHT post and then our reports about their service details here. They have on their website listed all 100 dedis locations but don't specifically says which one is available for VPS hosting. So as they don't list 17 locations at main site there also isn't stated Netherland specifically so how can be then false advertised? The only site which tells us specifically countries where VPSs are located is as far as I know their WHT offer. All this isn't really important for me, neither for you however lets be honest here, their site regarding VPS locations is crap but they don't false advertise as they don't advertise any vps locations specifically at their site at all. This info is missing. And at WHT where they finally list all available VPS locations they properly advertise .nl as geo-located.

  • How about drag @OneProvider here? :D

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  • SpiritSpirit Administrator
    edited November 2012

    @ErawanArifNugroho maybe it would be enough if someone would tell them that it would be good to list all VPS locations specifically at their site as everyone don't read their WHT offers so that people won't mixt them with dedis locations :)

  • Right :)

    After re-reading the offer, vps and dedi, it's different.:) So, a PM to their account in WHT would be nice :D

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  • jamsonjamson Member
    edited November 2012

    @pubcrawler said: Sydney, Australia - insufficient IPs

    They're in ServersAustralia, i think.

    Edit: They are... forgot that was mentioned earlier though, lol. Sorry.

  • LiamLiam Retired Staff
    edited November 2012

    @william mentioned a while back, that they resell their dedicated servers/virtual servers and give their locations false names. So Vienna is actually Graz etc.

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  • Yep, VPS is not resold by them but not really cost efficient (Sologigabit takes 5EUR / IP...)

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  • So they're swiping ips to certain geos and selling them from different locations? Seems completely pointless to me, outside of maybe some seo scamming/localized auto ad posting (ie craigslist)/stuff dependent on ip geo dns and so on.

    Why on earth would someone want a server, say in Frankfurt, with ip ranges in Amsterdam? I'm not saying you should care if that's the case - many providers have ranges registered to their home office for example, but marketing it as a special technology seems stupid at best.

    At worst, it's just a downright shady way to make people think they have many more locations then they do. And a waste of ipv4.

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  • @unused said: Why on earth would someone want a server, say in Frankfurt, with ip ranges in Amsterdam? I'm not saying you should care if that's the case - many providers have ranges registered to their home office for example, but marketing it as a special technology seems stupid at best.

    VPN's and such, but yes it isn't regular practice.

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  • @unused - They seam to be trying to implement a “what if” situation, but failing to cover the other situations. Not everyone buys/uses something for the same reason(s), and not a lot of people outside of certain fields come across/use theses ideas. So it's not surprising.

    I find that a lot of providers; IT/Tech firms in general are unable to clearly communicate what they offer.

    When I first came across their site (OneProvider), it took me a while to get what they were doing. On first glance you get the wrong impression, by that I mean you end up making the assumption which many have posted about.

    It can almost feel like a bait and switch, if you order based on that assumption.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their support and pre-sales issues are about these assumptions. Which they could completely eliminate, it is not that hard. But I say that because I dealt with these types of issues for a long time so its second nature to me.

  • @bit @Zen - right, besides some of the geo specific stuff (I'm sitting in frankfurt, want to watch the olympics which are BBC is broadcasting free to UK ips only..) etc.

    The place where it stops making sense is the actual physical geo, purely from a network/latency perspective. I wouldn't use their service unless I was close to them. Unless they are announcing 100 /24's in say, at least one location on each continent what's the point.

    Are there really enough customers looking for this kind of service in Europe?

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  • pubcrawlerpubcrawler Banned
    edited November 2012

    Yep, the OneProvider site is majorly jumbled and communicates things in way unclear or in manner that would conflict thought of average person (even average technical person).

    Interesting services nonetheless. Nice selection of place you can at-will move your VPS to (17 of them with more to come, minus areas where out of IPs).

    They should break their brand up into one site for dedicated servers - an open market place of sorts and another site just for the VPS'es.

    Functionality to actually move VPS including data from one location to other would be super, but bound to be technically expensive to perfect I suspect.

    Wish they'd extend the special to more than one subscription per account.

  • ZenZen Member
    edited November 2012

    To me, it first seemed like a total logistical nightmare, then when I realized half of these locations aren't actually physical, it added to that. I don't see why they don't attempt to reform the way they present themselves, as @pubcrawler mentioned they seem to be all over the place.

    @pubcrawler said: Functionality to actually move VPS including data from one location to other would be super, but bound to be technically expensive to perfect I suspect.

    Taxing a users bandwidth usage would seem appropriate to cut down on costs :)

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