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No the internet didn't break, the cloud is just raining

No the internet didn't break, the cloud is just raining

gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
edited October 2012 in General

Reddit, Coursera, Flipboard, FastCompany, Foursquare, Netflix, Pinterest, Airbnb, Github, Minecraft [1][2] currently (in parts) down due to the Amazon cloud in N. Virginia being broken

Just in case anyone is wondering why nothing works anymore

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  • AsadHaiderAsadHaider Member
    edited October 2012

    Netflix and Github are fully working for me. But I noticed Reddit was down a while ago and still keep trying to get on it :(

    @gsrdgrdghd said: Foursquare, Pinterest

    THE HIPSTERS WILL DIE!

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  • @AsadHaider said: Netflix and Github are fully working for me

    For me too, i just quoted it from the news article. Maybe it has also something to do with the location of the end user.

    @AsadHaider said: THE HIPSTERS WILL DIE!

    Good.

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  • Hall also...

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  • @gsrdgrdghd said: Netflix

    I've actually been doing work because Reddit is down. :(

  • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
    edited October 2012

    Not just Hall but apparently the whole Rackspace site too. Were they using Amazon?

    Edit: Never mind it's kind of working again. Also issues with their Virginia DC?

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  • This is exactly why these cloud solutions of all hosting in one provider basket is a very bad idea.

    Amazon has other locations with the same services. Was the outage just geographic for users nearby to Washington, DC (where outage was) or did it impact all users of these sites?

    It's a small outage, but surely a pile of money lost on transactions.

    Never been impressed with these sorts of solutions other than from a no to low cash outlay when getting started .

  • ZenZen Member

    @pubcrawler said: This is exactly why these cloud solutions of all hosting in one provider basket is a very bad idea.

    Amazon has other locations with the same services. Was the outage just geographic for users nearby to Washington, DC (where outage was) or did it impact all users of these sites?

    It's a small outage, but surely a pile of money lost on transactions.

    Never been impressed with these sorts of solutions other than from a no to low cash outlay when getting started .

    Generally I think a big issue is that having redundancy on the same platform as your primary doesn't work that well, and big websites don't seem to want to diversify their providers.

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  • Amazon sucks, honestly. Their are so many other enterprise providers who have much better track records than Amazon. Not sure why they are still the standard.

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  • @Zen, am I right that those sites were dragged offline just because they used a single Amazon location?

    Almost seems with something like Amazon that they should build the redundancy to another datacenter into the pricing and warn you heavily if you elect not to have such. Self inflicted outage if so.

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    Yes. And that's actually a decent solution. Problem? Competing with that much of a cost :(

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  • Sigh.

    "Cloud."

    Second large outage in a few months. The average uptime of Amazon services is lower than that of any of my VPSes, as far as I can tell.

    Need I say more?

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  • @joepie91 said: The average uptime of Amazon services is lower than that of any of my VPSes, as far as I can tell.

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  • Amazon are doing something no-one has done before, operating at a scale most of us could dream of at a level of discipline/automation most providers are nowhere near. The problem seems to be one of complexity and cascading failures when one thing goes wrong. Customers that fail to multi-source cloud services for important stuff likely lack a decent architect.

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    @craigb said: Customers that fail to multi-source cloud services for important stuff likely lack a decent architect.

    Mainly the guys that throw money at an issue where throwing books at themselves would work better. I've always thought that services like Amazon AWS should build a layer of automated redundancy (which isn't hard, just costly) and offer it as an upgrade, for something like 1.5x the standard price. That makes sense for both parties if the buyer really isn't willing to budge.

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  • craigbcraigb Member
    edited October 2012

    @zen AWS do offer the pieces to build in redundancy but leave it to their ecosystem to bundle that stuff (although AWS slowly eats the smaller providers simply by baking their ideas into the platform). There's some very solid players that help with this but always seems to take an outage for cloud customers to realize they need it...(yup, plenty of misselling in the cloud space but to be fair Amazon never claimed or advertised 100% uptime)

    "Go cheap on rarely used things"

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