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iPad Mini

iPad Mini

laaevlaaev Member
edited October 2012 in General

The iPad Mini is being announced tomorrow, and according to rumors the base price will be $329 which is a tad less expensive than the regular iPad's.

I am disappointed to see Apple not competing (in terms of price point) with the Nexus 7 and Amazon Kindle Fire.

What are your thoughts on the iPad Mini?

http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/apple/ipad/base-ipad-mini-model-to-cost-329-says-report/

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  • If it indeed costs 300$ and is not too bad, this might end to be the first apple product I waste money on.

  • I am hoping they will offer features that are unmatched and not offered in competing tablets which will allow the iPad Mini to stand out.

    Depending on that, I might pick up one for myself too.

  • @FTN_Kevin said: I am hoping they will offer features that are unmatched and not offered in competing tablets which will allow the iPad Mini to stand out.

    Depending on that, I might pick up one for myself too.

    Unlikely. I'm not a fan of Apple and never found their products inovative. Don't have big expectations. However if it can match the features of the other tablets in that price range, might get one, just for the sake of it

  • Um, why would you downgrade to a smaller prison cell? Both iPad versions should horrible.

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    I'm keeping an open mind. I don't think I want it. To be truthful, I never wanted a tablet in the first place. They were dumb, bulky, and gimmicky. The iPad came along, and all I saw was "iPhone jumbo." Next thing I know I can't put it down and I don't want a laptop anymore.

    So who knows... maybe they'll shock me.

    In before/after "Apple hater club" fanboys.

  • JarJar Member

    @KMyers said: Um, why would you downgrade to a smaller prison cell? Both iPad versions should horrible.

    Original.

  • @jarland You prefer tablet over laptop? Can any reasonable amount of work be done on it?

    As I need something more portable than my 15" laptop.. So I am trying to deside if I should get a netbook or tablet... While ont he other side the ultrabooks seem really tempting as well.

  • JarJar Member

    @Alex_LiquidHost said: You prefer tablet over laptop? Can any reasonable amount of work be done on it?

    I never thought I would, but I do. A bluetooth keyboard and VNC into a VPS handles the leftovers. Honestly I've found that if you're willing to ask the question, there's almost always an app that has the answer.

  • @Alex_LiquidHost said: You prefer tablet over laptop? Can any reasonable amount of work be done on it?

    As I need something more portable than my 15" laptop.. So I am trying to deside if I should get a netbook or tablet... While ont he other side the ultrabooks seem really tempting as well.

    I actually do as well. I use my ASUS Transformer TF700 for almost everything, I rarely have the need to pull out my laptop these days. Due to its Netbook style Dock, I can be very productive on it as well as it has a full keyboard.

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    Don't we already have iPhone and itouch?

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  • wdqwdq Member

    I don't think I'd ever get an iPad, and the same goes for an iPad Mini.

    I currently own a netbook and a Nexus 7 for use when I'm away from home. I kind of wish there was an ASUS Transformer style dock for the Nexus 7 so that I could ditch the netbook.

  • @wdq said: I currently own a netbook and a Nexus 7 for use when I'm away from home. I kind of wish there was an ASUS Transformer style dock for the Nexus 7 so that I could ditch the netbook.

    As a Transformer and Nexus Owner, I am happy the Nexus 7 does not have a dock. The Nexus 7 is designed to a consumption device while the transformer is designed to be a production device. I highly doubt that anyone can get much "work" done on a 7 inch screen.

  • @KMyers said: I actually do as well. I use my ASUS Transformer TF700 for almost everything, I rarely have the need to pull out my laptop these days. Due to its Netbook style Dock, I can be very productive on it as well as it has a full keyboard.

    That Asus thingie, it had 7 hours of battery life, right?

  • @Alex_LiquidHost said: That Asus thingie, it had 7 hours of battery life, right?

    It depens on the version. The TF101 had a total of 16 hours (8 tablet/8 dock), the TF201 had 16 (10 Tablet/6 Dock).

  • @KMyers said: It depens on the version. The TF101 had a total of 16 hours (8 tablet/8 dock), the TF201 had 16 (10 Tablet/6 Dock).

    Fuck this, 16 hours, that's awesome. I am for sure buying myself one of those. That's awesome, 16 hours of working without charging. I can safely go away and bring it without carying any chargers and etc. Does it happen to have some 3g module inside?

  • @FTN_Kevin said: I am hoping they will offer features that are unmatched and not offered in competing tablets which will allow the iPad Mini to stand out.

    Lul. Nexus 7 is $200 with Android.

    iOS can't touch Android, in terms of features.

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  • @Alex_LiquidHost said: Fuck this, 16 hours, that's awesome. I am for sure buying myself one of those. That's awesome, 16 hours of working without charging. I can safely go away and bring it without carying any chargers and etc. Does it happen to have some 3g module inside?

    I am running the TF700 and I am getting a solid 14 hours on it, this thing has a demanding screen. A few weeks ago I took a 26 hour Train Ride for a BigBrainGlobal meeting and It lasted me most of the way (although I did have an AC power outlet at my seat).

    It does not have 3G or 4G, and I like it that way. I carry a 3G/LTE/WiMax TriFi Access Point with me. The dock's USB port kept the Access Point charged the entire train ride.

  • @NateN34 said: Lul. Nexus 7 is $200 with Android.

    iOS can't touch Android, in terms of features.

    I am just wondering how many existing Android Features that Apple will "Invent" tomorrow.

  • @KMyers said: I am running the TF700 and I am getting a solid 14 hours on it, this thing has a demanding screen. A few weeks ago I took a 26 hour Train Ride for a BigBrainGlobal meeting and It lasted me most of the way (although I did have an AC power outlet at my seat).

    It does not have 3G or 4G, and I like it that way. I carry a 3G/LTE/WiMax TriFi Access Point with me. The dock's USB port kept the Access Point charged the entire train ride.

    If it has USB, that it is not a problem for me. I can tether from my phone to get a good 10mbps.

  • @Alex_LiquidHost said: If it has USB, that it is not a problem for me. I can tether from my phone to get a good 10mbps.

    Yup, there is a Full Sized (POWERED) USB 2.0 port on the dock

  • Got the TF-201 easily get 15 hours without a charge and it's a very useful little machine, my Latptop rarely see's the light of day given everything I can do on the transformer. Ordering the 700 this week as the wife wants one and like I am going to give her a new one!

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  • There's no way I would pick up this, or an iPad over the Windows 8 offerings. I would at least wait until the 30th before buying a tablet.

  • @KMyers said: I am just wondering how many existing Android Features that Apple will "Invent" tomorrow.

    Well, I can guarantee you that a microSD slot is NOT one of them. (Course Google stiffed us on the Nexus 7 too, which is why I don't have one.)

    @KMyers, what app are you using to connect to your VPSs? I've used ConnectBot free version in the past on a phone in an emergency, but it was extremely painful. Had a hard time registering screen's command codes.

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    There's no way I would pick up this, or an iPad over the Windows 8 offerings. I would at least wait until the 30th before buying a tablet.

    Really want a surface. Won't trade my ipad, but I want one. Gotta get my hands on one though to see if it feels as good as it looks from a distance. Finally Microsoft is smart enough to stop putting their success in the hands of companies that make crappy, bulky, cheap pieces of plastic with no internal memory.

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    @jarland +1, I want the Surface too.

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  • edited October 2012

    Meh, I had an iPad 2 for a week or so. It was okay, mainly used for browsing the web while in the bathroom.

    Laptops are better for everything else. iPads and tablets suck to type on, multi-tasking isn't fun, you can download 'cool apps' to do tihngs your laptop can do but at the end of the day, it's not better than a laptop or netbook.

    So, after 1 week I sold mine.

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  • @wdq said: @jarland +1, I want the Surface too.

    Same here.

    Although, not digging the $600 price tag though for the keyboard cover version. ;(

  • wdqwdq Member

    I'm also interested in the $250 Samsung Chromebook. It doesn't run Windows apps, but the Surface doesn't either. It might be lower cost replacement for my netbook when compared to the Surface.

  • JarJar Member

    Laptops are better for everything else. iPads and tablets suck to type on, multi-tasking isn't fun, you can download 'cool apps' to do tihngs your laptop can do but at the end of the day, it's not better than a laptop or netbook.

    I still felt this way for a while. I think it's like any different platform, it takes a while for it to be productive over what you've always known. Now I handle business faster with it because everything I need is always within reach. The workaround no longer feel like workarounds. I admit though, it took a while. At first it was just to see if I could do it.

  • touch screen is fer noobs. although i'll probably have to develop an ipad app so i might end up owning one.

  • Do people seriously prefer the limited OS's that are Android and iOS over having a fully fledged computer? I'm dissapointed with you today, LowEndTalk.

  • JarJar Member

    @Pebsie said: limited OS's

    Let's see... I can VNC, SSH, and play games. I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to want, but feel free to fill me in ;)

  • @patrokov said: @KMyers, what app are you using to connect to your VPSs? I've used ConnectBot free version in the past on a phone in an emergency, but it was extremely painful. Had a hard time registering screen's command codes.

    I use ConnectBot with "Hackers Keyboard", it is actually not that bad.

    @jarland said: Really want a surface. Won't trade my ipad, but I want one. Gotta get my hands on one though to see if it feels as good as it looks from a distance. Finally Microsoft is smart enough to stop putting their success in the hands of companies that make crappy, bulky, cheap pieces of plastic with no internal memory.

    Actually that is not a correct statement. The Surface will fail, the reason being is pure marketing. Microsoft is calling the Surface a "PC", yet it is actually NOT a PC. Microsoft is failing to distinguish the true difference between Windows 8 RT and Windows 8.

    Windows 8 RT will NOT : 1-be able to run legacy (x86/64 bit) applications, this means you should throw all of your old software collection away. 2-be able to run any applications from 3rd partys without distribution through the Microsoft Marketplace. This spits in the face to freelance/indie developers. 3-be ran in an "Unlocked Mode" (The bootloader is locked, encrypted and signed) 4-be used with non-Microsoft approved (Certified) hardware, time to buy new printers and other USB appliances.

    Answer one question, due to points 2 and 3, who actually owns your Surface tablet?

  • JarJar Member

    @KMyers said: Microsoft is failing to distinguish the true difference between Windows 8 RT and Windows 8.

    That's a good point. While I think it has high potential to attract developers, you are right it may completely alienate the bulk of it's market by failing to warn them of an immediate shortcoming. To be honest, I'm having a great time with the new Jump Desktop app and running Windows 8 on my Commercial Media server. The snappiness of RDP on a good connection, with the appropriately converted touch gestures, actually makes it pretty darn nice.

  • Great job Apple, packing 2 year old tech into a smaller shell and marketing it as something revolutionary...

    Great way to use all of your leftover parts that were collecting dust in the backroom.

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    @KMyers said: Great job Apple, packing 2 year old tech into a smaller shell and marketing it as something revolutionary...

    Great job, sounding like every anti-Apple fanboy in the history of religious Apple haters ;)

    A company that talks up their own products and doesn't fill them with the latest experimental chips and not-yet-adopted standards!? OMG! Pitchforks!

  • @jarland said: Great job, sounding like every anti-Apple fanboy in the history of religious Apple haters ;)

    Thank you, I humbly accept that title.

  • Glad to see you're getting the iPad Mini @KMyers ;)

  • @jarland said: doesn't fill them with the latest experimental chips and not-yet-adopted standards!? OMG! Pitchforks!

    FireWire, Thunderbolt and the nano-SIM?

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    So the thoughts of an Apple fanboy...

    The iPad Mini is going to fill a market gap. By no means does it attract me too much, or is it revolutionary. It's just to hit sales for people who want tablets that size, which there seems to be many of. This definitely represents to me a new shift in Apple's product offerings. This isn't what we've known Apple to be in the last decade, and it will be interesting to continue to see where Tim leads the company. I think he's slowly shifting the company to be more interested in consumer feedback instead of a single vision. I'm not sure what I think about that as there are plenty of companies making products that meet demand, but Apple stood apart as the company that said "It does what we think you should be doing with it." Love or hate that attitude, it was unique, and there are plenty of companies to buy from if that attitude turned you off. Interesting years ahead.

    As for the iPad 4...only if I can trick someone into paying too much for my iPad 3. I might upgrade if I'm convinced that the resale value of the 3 will drop significantly between now and the release of the iPad 5. It's all about resale value to me, because that's where I save the most on my purchases, by reselling at the right time and paying the least amount for the next upgrade. Sometimes you have to jump on little upgrades to keep that up though.

  • JarJar Member

    @heiska said: FireWire, Thunderbolt and the nano-SIM?

    I was thinking more about the NFC that nerds have been crying about for so long.

  • @jarland said: I was thinking more about the NFC that nerds have been crying about for so long.

    NFC is a standard even though NFC is not widely spread atm. Instead of using standards, they just develop something of their own (Lightning connector, NFC-alternative), because incompatible NFC standards, cables... are better for the consumer right?

    http://xkcd.com/927/

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    are better for the consumer right?

    What's best for the consumer is what they want and what they adopt. If you want a single standard, you need consumer adoption. Consumers have rejected NFC, as clearly shown by the insistence if so many and the lack of widespread adoption. NFC failed because its not wide spread. It's been around long enough, it's a technology designed for mass adoption, and the people have clearly spoken.

    There is one way to trick adoption of a standard. Find a way for people to use it to get porn more easily.

  • geeveegeevee Member
    edited October 2012

    @jarland

    How exactly has NFC been "rejected" by the consumers?

    You do know NFC exists not only with Android phones.

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    @geevee said: How exactly has NFC been "rejected" by the consumers?

    NFC is a technology that is designed for mass adoption as a communications standard. Without widespread adoption it's just a gimmick that occasionally does something. It's supporters have been pushing for mainstream adoption for nearly 10 years now. If that isn't rejection, I'm not sure what is. For years they've been talking up it's capability to revolutionize our daily lives, and for years it's remained mostly inactive and ignored technology. At this point other technologies are creeping up on NFC by chipping away at the often cited potential uses for it, and that's just another nail in the coffin. Wifi, Bluetooth, and GPS have widely been considered perfectly sufficient.

    @geevee said: You do know NFC exists not only with Android phones.

    Still doesn't mean most of us can do anything with it but talk about it.

  • @KMyers TriFi? What the hell will these marketing people come up with next?

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  • There's been rumors of a $99 Nexus 7 for Q4. $329 vs. $99 would be a big difference.

  • KMyersKMyers Member
    edited October 2012

    @jarland said: What's best for the consumer is what they want and what they adopt. If you want a single standard, you need consumer adoption. Consumers have rejected NFC, as clearly shown by the insistence if so many and the lack of widespread adoption. NFC failed because its not wide spread. It's been around long enough, it's a technology designed for mass adoption, and the people have clearly spoken.

    I think your mistaken, NFC is actually widely adopted as a standard and further adoption is growing at a rapid pace. Many devices actually have NFC including most of the 2012 Blackberries, most of the 2011/2012 Android Phones and even all Windows Mobile 7.5 + Devices. It is even a REQUIREMENT for Windows 8 RT.

    NFC chips have also been added to most Credit Cards, dating back to 2008/2009. NFC is also used in many Transportation Systems and Subways for pre-paid monthly passes.

    In fact Apple has failed to notice this in the market. I am sorry but the passbook is just a poor excuse that Apple came up with to say "I Forgot". QR codes are nothing new, and last I checked, Android has been making use of QR Codes longer then iOS

    @NickO said: Glad to see you're getting the iPad Mini @KMyers ;)

    Not likely

    @SimpleNode said: @KMyers TriFi? What the hell will these marketing people come up with next?

    TriFi sounds quite fitting. My TriFi can jump on 3G, LTE and WiMax (3 bands/radios hence the "Tri")

    @david said: There's been rumors of a $99 Nexus 7 for Q4. $329 vs. $99 would be a big difference.

    Actually I think that a $149 price point may be best. Unlike Apple, Google is willing to take a hit on the Nexus 7, knowing that most people who purchase them will make plenty of purchases in the Google Play Store. This is why Google calls devices like the Nexus 7 a "Consumption Device"

  • JarJar Member
    edited October 2012

    @KMyers said: I think your mistaken, NFC is actually widely adopted as a standard and further adoption is growing at a rapid pace. Many devices actually have NFC including most of the 2012 Blackberries, most of the 2011/2012 Android Phones and even all Windows Mobile 7.5 + Devices. It is even a REQUIREMENT for Windows 8 RT.

    I've still never seen it used anywhere that I'm aware of. Perhaps you could think of an example of a common use that one might overlook because it isn't obvious, but if not then I'd say that someone as tech minded as myself having zero chance at interacting with it, having been out as long as it has, means that it isn't widely adopted. Keep in mind that I'm not using widely adopted to refer to widely available. Availability isn't what indicates acceptance here, sort of like if every device had wifi capability and no one knew where to buy a router. Most of the world getting along just fine without it and showing no interest in it's capabilities is a sure indication of public rejection. A gimmick in a big city or two isn't mass adoption, and for such a standard as NFC it's downright failure in my mind, purely based on the nature of the technology, as the conveniences that it has been suggested to provide are mostly nonexistent and therefore has no impact on the current way that things are done. A different technology I might not call a failure due to lack of mass adoption, but this one demands it to achieve the goals that it's supporters have set out for it.

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