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Linode or Gandi ?

Linode or Gandi ?

ispanakispanak Member
edited October 2012 in General

Hi,

I want to buy a VPS package for the first time. At "SITE 5" hosting package I have apporximetly 30.000 hit per day. (for the 20 web site total) and 50 GB bandwith per month.

I couldn't decide to buy which of these package that I must buy? 1- Linode - Linode 768 (http://www.linode.com) 2- Gandi (2 share) - https://www.gandi.net/hosting/vps

Is both of these packets eneough for my requirements? I am from Turkey so I want to use VPS from Europe. And The VPS must be reliable. If you know better than both you can advice another VPS...

thanks.

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  • None of the above.

  • rm_rm_ Member

    Linode or Gandi ?

    Neither

    If you know better than both you can advice another VPS...

    Here's a good website for you: http://www.lowendbox.com/

  • @ispanak said: 1- Linode - Linode 768 (http://www.linode.com)

    $19.95

    @ispanak said: 2- Gandi (2 share) - https://www.gandi.net/hosting/vps

    £19

    I'd suggest looking at LowendBox.com for a VPS.

  • INIZINIZ Member
    edited October 2012

    I would say Linode if your site doesn't get ddosed you will be fine. People who hate on Linode either just say it without any previous experience or there site got DDoS'ed and got null routed for a long time

    Alternatively look through some hosts here, do some research on here and google for reviews and you will be fine and pay a lower price.

  • @StormVZ said: I would say Linode if your site doesn't get ddosed you will be fine. People who hate on Linode either just say it without any previous experience or there site got DDoS'ed and got null routed for a long time

    For how big Linode are they don't even have their own IPs.

  • @Jack Do they really need it? Rather they work on the infrastructure and amazing control panel then getting own IP Space just because some techy people like a whois of the IP? Most users and businesses who Linode won't even look at it.

    On the other hand http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-74-207-224-0-1/pft

  • @StormVZ said: @Jack Do they really need it? Rather they work on the infrastructure and amazing control panel then getting own IP Space just because some techy people like a whois of the IP? Most users and businesses who Linode won't even look at it.

    On the other hand http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-74-207-224-0-1/pft

    If they had there own IPs / Network they could proceed with nullroutes easier without having to contact whoever they have the servers off.

  • Have used both and would recommend both. Check out Softlayer.com's Cloudlayer as well, which is what I'm using at the moment.

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  • LiamLiam Retired Staff
    edited October 2012

    @ispanak said: I couldn't decide to buy which of these package that I must buy? 1- Linode - Linode 768 (http://www.linode.com) 2- Gandi (2 share) - https://www.gandi.net/hosting/vps

    Is both of these packets eneough for my requirements? I am from Turkey so I want to use VPS from Europe. And The VPS must be reliable. If you know better than both you can advice another VPS...

    Having used both I'd recommend these four more: fitvps (Bulgaria), @prometeus (Italy), EDIS (Austria etc) and Castlegem (Austria etc) would all be ideal for Turkey and will perform much better at a fraction of the cost.

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  • Only 30 Hits per day and 50GB Bandwidth per month? Why not spend less money and get a shared hosting plan?

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  • LiamLiam Retired Staff
    edited October 2012

    @Jeffrey said: Only 30 Hits per day and 50GB Bandwidth per month? Why not spend less money and get a shared hosting plan?

    30 thousand.

    @ispanak said: I have apporximetly 30.000 hit per day

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  • INIZINIZ Member
    edited October 2012

    @Jack said: If they had there own IPs / Network they could proceed with nullroutes easier without having to contact whoever they have the servers off.

    It could be how they work, last time I asked they said they put a min 24 hour null route or until it lasts

    http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/LINOD/nets

    We do not inspect or filter traffic, so if you become the target of a DoS attack, we would not take any action unless it is large enough to negatively impact our network and subsequently the service of other Linodes. In the event of this occurring, you Linode's IP address would be null routed (disconnected) for a minimum of 24 hours.

  • JackJack Member
    edited October 2012

    @StormVZ said: It could be how they work, last time I asked they said they put a min 24 hour null route or until it lasts

    http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/LINOD/nets

    We do not inspect or filter traffic, so if you become the target of a DoS attack, we would not take any action unless it is large enough to negatively impact our network and subsequently the service of other Linodes. In the event of this occurring, you Linode's IP address would be null routed (disconnected) for a minimum of 24 hours.

    Yes but still people like BuyVM can offer filtering for similar floods for just $3/mo.. Surely the networks that Linode are on they can offer to block Protocols to Linode for the amount of money that is spent...

    BuyVM:

    512MB RAM 1024MB Burst RAM 50GB Disk 2TB Bandwidth for $5.95/mo

    Linode: 512MB RAM 20GB Disk 200GB Bandwidth for $19.95/mo

  • @ispanak

    Hello,

    If you have to pick between Linode and Gandi, then I'd go with Linode. That is from personal experience. I've only used Linode out of the 2, and they were great when I was with them. I've heard they are fine up until you get a DDoS attack.

    There are some perfectly good LEB providers including @StormVZ (who's commented on this post), EaseVPS @Jacob, DotVPS - @Jack, VirtIO - @jhadley and more.

    I'd pick one that fits your requirements, however also budget. I don't think you'll have a problem with getting an LEB provider to fit your budget. This is considering you were thinking of going with Linode who are classed as a premium provider.

    The providers I have suggested are all in the UK apart from DotVPS which is in the Netherlands. There are lots of providers to choose from. I've not had personal experience with StormVZ (apart from in the beta, but from what i've heard, their service is good). VirtIO are slightly more expensive, but are SSD based.

    Good luck to picking a provider who suits you best. :)

    Hope this post helps you.

    -Dominic

  • 30,000 views per day? 50GB Monthly Bandwidth? The bandwidth consumption isn't bad, but those views. :S Yes, a VPS would be perfect for you, not a shared plan! Have you taken a look at http://6sync.com/

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  • LiamLiam Retired Staff

    @jeffrey The user is in Turkey and has listed two European providers. Not sure how New York will be helpful to him.

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  • ChanChan Member
    edited October 2012

    Well for 30,000 views a day you may want to stay away from most of the LEB providers, some of them are really good but some of them are horrible, if I was you I wouldn't risk the site's uptime to test how good they are

    PS: For good LEBs around Europe have a look at Edis and Prometeus (not implying those not mentioned aren't good)

  • INIZINIZ Member
    edited October 2012

    @dominicl Thanks for the mention but our EU location (UK) is currently sold out due to limited IP Space availability :(

    Good luck on your search OP

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  • I have also seen interesting VPS offers in Turkey on WHT, but never tried any of them personally.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited October 2012

    Prometeus is not far from Turkey, also fitvps from bulgaria, but any eu provider should do. However,30k hits mean more than 20 a minute, given the fact they tend to have peak hours, I would say 20 hits a second is not rare, up to 100 in rare spikes. In order to be sure the site performs best during those spikes, you should have at least 1 GB spare memory and a fast SSD storage. You can do with 1 GB in total with a light panel included (i presume 50 sites are not administered manually with conf files and they might have mail etc), but it may lag and some providers might treat you as abuser if the sites are heavy, for example, the likes of Drupal will not do well in 256 with only a visitor or two... And that is only one site. I suggest you get a 1 GB pland and grow from there, as long as you have SSD or SSED cached plans, it should be fine even for heavier sites. Add one gb if you have clamav and spamassasin and the mail is pretty busy. M

    I am only representing myself :)

  • wdqwdq Member

    I haven't personally used Gandi, but I have used Linode. I didn't have any issues with Linode when I used them.

  • Linode is fine, and their support is great as long as you don't get ddosed.

    -- BOFH

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  • Misread that @liam.

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  • @ispanak I would suggest to use DigitalOcean(https://www.digitalocean.com/). They have servers in New York and Amsterdam. I have a 512 MB server with them and I'm satisfied. Drives are SSD. They have automatic back up/snapshot option free of charge. And in case your site goes viral, you can spin up your server with just one click. And there is no bandwidth cap. I highly recommend them.

    I don't know nothing about linux and networking :(

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  • @chinmoy Just wish there were more console access options than that picky HTML5 console.

    When you find that perfect VPS, KEEP IT.

  • @Zetta said: Just wish there were more console access options than that picky HTML5 console.

    You are mistaken. :) You can manage your servers with ssh cliets just like any other server. :)

    I don't know nothing about linux and networking :(

  • ZettaZetta Member
    edited October 2012

    @chinmoy said: You are mistaken. :)

    Nope. In SolusVM you get VNC access to the emulated VGA, the only way you can do that in their panel is through the in-browser HTML5 console.

    Also, judging from the smile faces and spelling errors please put the crack pipe down if you think I didn't know you could SSH into a VPS.

    When you find that perfect VPS, KEEP IT.

  • ZenZen Member
    edited October 2012

    @Zetta hates smiley faces, noted.

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  • When you find that perfect VPS, KEEP IT.

  • linode null route you for long hours if you get ddos, for this reason I just recommend Buyvm, whose ddos protected IP works just fine.

    Freedns Hosting - www.DNSbed.com

  • @Zetta said: Also, judging from the smile faces and spelling errors please put the crack pipe down if you think I didn't know you could SSH into a VPS.

    Noted.

    I don't know nothing about linux and networking :(

  • mpkossenmpkossen Administrator

    @StormVZ said: I would say Linode if your site doesn't get ddosed you will be fine. People who hate on Linode either just say it without any previous experience or there site got DDoS'ed and got null routed for a long time

    That's just wrong man. Your message is the one that is unfounded. There's a couple of us here that have had definite experience with Linode and left them for one or more good reason(s). They can all be found here: http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/4706/why-linode-sucks-a-personal-rant. I would advise the OP to read that thread, because it does contain useful information.

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  • Buyvm servers in USA. I need Europe server.

  • Get a Prometeus 1 GB biz OVZ SSD and never look back. If you need more memory or space, can upgrade in place. M

    I am only representing myself :)

  • mpkossenmpkossen Administrator

    I can vouch for @prometeus, they're an awesome provider with fantastic support.

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  • DamianDamian Member
    edited October 2012

    30000 hits per day is only ~2.88 per second, averaged over the entire day. Are you seeing huge spikes at specific times of day or something?

    Current Time: Monday, 15-Oct-2012 13:17:23 MST
    Restart Time: Sunday, 14-Oct-2012 17:02:32 MST
    Parent Server Generation: 24
    Server uptime: 20 hours 14 minutes 51 seconds
    Total accesses: 1039889 - Total Traffic: 15.5 GB
    CPU Usage: u9.49 s1.85 cu.04 cs0 - .0156% CPU load
    14.3 requests/sec - 223.6 kB/second - 15.7 kB/request
    16 requests currently being processed, 25 idle workers
    

    Is being hosted on a somewhat crappy spec'd VPS that costs me $3/month, without issue. Load generally runs between 0.6 and 1.5, on a 4-core system. Apache 2.2 with fcgid.

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  • @Damian said: 30000 hits per day is only ~2.88 per second

    Actually it is one hit every 2.88 seconds, so even less ;-)

  • @rds100 said: Actually it is one hit every 2.88 seconds, so even less ;-)

    Ah yes, good catch! It's been a long day...

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited October 2012

    The statistician drowned in a half meter deep lake. It was an average of half a meter, tho. If you target a speciffic country, there will be little to no traffic at night, at 10 times more the average for an hour in the evening. In some cases, all traffic will be in that hour. I know, been happening to me. For 6 dollars you can get 1 GB, why bother to make calculations, I know this is LET where ppl squeeze the last byte, however, not everyone can do that and some plugins are pretty heavy. M

    I am only representing myself :)

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