Experiences with DDOS-protected VPSes?

Damian

I'm looking for actual experiences with companies offering DDOS-protected VPSes.

My scope is for game servers, and my own experience with selling VPSes tells me that skiddies enjoy DDOSing game servers. Obviously these VPSes are going to have a price premium attached to them.

Any input?

Jack

BuyVM!

Alex_LiquidHost

Personal experience - none.

However I'd suggest you check: 1. BuyVM 2. Staminus 3. Gigenet

Jack

@Alex_LiquidHost said: Staminus

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU SEEN THE $/packet per second!!!!!?

Fran tanked a 600k p/s SYN for $3/mo

AsadHaider

@Jacob knows and has used a few

Jack

Blacklotus who his currently using @AsadHaider Don't detect all Flood types however they have a nice Control panel to see the attacks.

AsadHaider

@Jack Yeah, he used JavaPipe too http://javapipe.com/web/ddos_mitigation.html

Jack

@AsadHaider They don't own there own network they use Blacklotus :)

AsadHaider

@Jack Ah, ok. Well there's another provider anyway @Damian.

Alex_LiquidHost

Lol, blacklotus are industry leaders. I in NO WAY belive that they do not detect all floods. Just no way.

Jack

@Alex_LiquidHost said: I in NO WAY belive that they do not detect all floods.

So 500mbit of UDP didn't get through when I was using them a few months ago?

Jack

@AsadHaider Doesn't he want game servers VM's ? Javapipe is a reverse proxy service?

Alex_LiquidHost

@Jack said: So 500mbit of UDP didn't get through when I was using them a few months ago?

So you claim they couldnt tank 500mbps of UDP? LOL I probably can't get your point, however UDP is the easiest attack to detect. BL even has it's own patented methods of detecting and mitigating.

AsadHaider

@Jack It says they can protect game servers.

@joodle How did your CoD server thing go?

Jack

@Alex_LiquidHost said: So you claim they couldnt tank 500mbps of UDP? LOL I probably can't get your point, however UDP is the easiest attack to detect. BL even has it's own patented methods of detecting and mitigating.

It took them 37 minutes to see that 500mbit of UDP was getting past the ACL...

They have tanked bigger UDP floods since though.

Jacob

Regardless of this, Since it's just a proxy it should work fine, You would have to contact them about this though.

@Jack said: Javapipe is a reverse proxy service?

Damian

@Alex_LiquidHost said: However I'd suggest you check: 1. BuyVM 2. Staminus 3. Gigenet

Thanks. Staminus wanted bosozoku amounts of $$$ for DDOS mitigation, and Gigenet wouldn't give prices but offered that a "DDOS Specialist" would contact me immediately. BuyVM is looking most cost-effective at them moment; only issue with them is they don't have open availability.

Jack

@Jacob said: Regardless of this, Since it's just a proxy it should work fine, You would have to contact them about this though.

Just seen:

DDoS mitigation setup for silk based gaming servers $40 setup. DDoS mitigation setup for Minecrafts servers is FREE.

Jack

@Damian said: Thanks. Staminus wanted bosozoku amounts of $$$ for DDOS mitigation, and Gigenet wouldn't give prices but offered that a "DDOS Specialist" would contact me immediately. BuyVM is looking most cost-effective at them moment; only issue with them is they don't have open availability.

Poke Fran , I'm sure he'll be able to get you a box :)

Damian

@Jack said: Just seen:

DDoS mitigation setup for silk based gaming servers $40 setup. DDoS mitigation setup for Minecrafts servers is FREE.

I think that's just setup. Actual transfer on that page is $100/month on the cheapest tier.

Jack

@Damian said: I think that's just setup. Actual transfer on that page is $100/month on the cheapest tier.

I think Jacob got a discount , I think he said $69 on IRC? @Jacob what did you pay.

Jacob

Speak with Robert, They have a active 30% Promotion, Bandwidth is also calculated In/Out, So 200GB BW, 100GB in reality since data comes in one end and back out the other. :-)

@Damian said: Actual transfer on that page is $100/month on the cheapest tier.

apollo15

buyvm isn't the best out there, but it's definitely the best what you can get as low as $3/m

Highly recommended!

joepie91

Might want to have a look at Dragonara or any of the companies with servers there. They can handle pretty big attacks afaik for a reasonable price, but I recall an issue with Dragonara refusing to upgrade the DDoS mitigation because they disagreed with the content that was the target of said DDoS. I was not personally involved in that situation, so you may want to verify that independently instead of assuming that story is true :)

@Alex_LiquidHost said: BL even has it's own patented methods of detecting and mitigating.

That really means nothing at all. Something being patented does not in any way indicate the quality of the patented method. For all you know, they may be stubborn and tried to develop their own failing detection mechanisms instead of using widely available more effective methods. Who knows.

@Damian said: Gigenet wouldn't give prices but offered that a "DDOS Specialist" would contact me immediately.

From what I know of Gigenet, if you push a little, you can get a pretty good price out of them for decent DDoS mitigation.

William

If you have the cash: Prolexic If you have at least a bit of cash: Blacklotus If you have no cash: BuyVM

Damian

@William said: If you have at least a bit of cash: Blacklotus

I don't have that much cash for the project.

BuyVM it is!

Brandon

Feel free to PM me and I can offer you something. We've recently been working with Peer1 to DDoS proof our entire Toronto network. Yes we host Minecraft which is why this was also necessary.

JTR

Cheap: BuyVM External tunnel: JavaPipe Small attacks/dedi: Limestone Networks Large/fancy attacks and/or large budget: BlackLotus, Staminus

I have personal experience with LSN from about a year ago, they were pretty good about attacks, but their policy these days is they'll only mitigate up to 500Mbps for long attacks, and up to ~3Gbps for up to an hour.

I have personal experience with BuyVM, I've used their filtered IP for a while on some sites hosted on my VPS, and recently started using it as a GRE tunnel for my dedi.

I have heard from multiple people who are satisfied with JavaPipe (the tunnel service), but I was told that they account for bandwidth both ways, so the amount they advertise is actually only 1/2 that in practice. I do not have personal experience with them.

Randy

I would have to agree LSN's blackhole system is neat .

Jack

@Randy said: I would have to agree LSN's blackhole system is neat .

Not as good as BuyVM's... It doesn't email you to say it's been nulled.

Also It takes an hour for it to detect it.

Randy

Ahhh. the email alert is a must. and they remove the blackhole for you if you placed a tickets and "forwarding to network engineers seems to be slow as a snail"