Cloudflare Opinion

hAwNerk

Do you use cloudflare? I'm having reports to my visitors of false positives requiring captcha to enter my site even at essentially off setting. I'm planning to ditch it off. What are your experience with cf?

Alex_LiquidHost

Never used it... Heard a lot of bad things for it, however a huge load of good things as well..

acarrascope

Im Official Partner using a lot, never gets errors to my hosted sites or complaints. If you have healthy nameservers i dont see why you can't use it.

KuJoe

I used it for about an hour on our website but switched back to DNSMadeEasy, CF just didn't work for us and if we wanted it to work it would have been to expensive. I do use CF on my personal website and I don't get any complaints about it (although I don't get a lot of traffic either).

NickM

When I was using cloudflare, for every single "false positive", it turned out that they had a virus of some kind.

cosmicgate

I only use cloudflare for dns with "passthrough"(no caching). With caching, I was getting >11 secs respond time and pingdom constantly reports it as down.

bdtech

@hawnerk set your security setting to off or low if you want to minimize captcha checks. There's usually a good reason they're getting it though

Damian

If you use cloudflare, and your site starts having issues, please turn off cloudflare and check again, before you ask your host about server issues. Every "server issue" we've had with shared hosting has turned out to be broken/incorrectly-configured cloudflare....

Zen

cPanel based cloudflare plugin is there for a reason hosts..

Alex_LiquidHost

@Zen said: cPanel based cloudflare plugin is there for a reason hosts..

I had an issue exactly via the plugin... I can stand behind @Damian on this case, it is absolutely the same with us. We get atleast 3 issues monthly, cloudflare related, the only tickets I get for the shared hosting I am offering.

Zen

Mainly because people don't read up on Cloudflare, would be the same with any other service similar. People sign up to Cloudflare and use it with no understanding of it. Provide documentation for your clients, information in welcome emails, etc. And if they still open tickets its your job to answer them.

OSACOM

I know for a fact many people hear of Cloudflare and think instantly it can be used for DDOS protection. Correct traffic gets filtered but still...

MannDude

I use Cloudflare for DNS on all my lowendboxes.

I've never really had an issue with it, it works and it works well.

Spirit

@Zen said: cPanel based cloudflare plugin is there for a reason hosts..

Exactly. I use cloudflare with few CMS websites maybe half year or so but so far no issues.

hAwNerk

@Spirit said: I use cloudflare with few CMS websites maybe half year or so but so far no issues.

what about the uptime?

Spirit

Isn't exactly uptime thing where should be no issues with CloudFlare? :) When people complain regarding CloudFlare they usually report false/positives downtime notices about their site hosting not CloudFlare itself. So far I haven't seen or got report from my site visitors about such issues.

hAwNerk

@Spirit said: So far I haven't seen or got report from my site visitors about such issues.

Good for you. Sometimes CF even give me captcha! how nice of them

Fliphost

Been using it for at least a year now and working great

hAwNerk

@Fliphost said: Been using it for at least a year now and working great

You use pro or free only?

Zen

@hAwNerk

Once again a noob that didn't read up before signing up - EVERYTHING that people talk about when it comes to 'errors' or 'bugs' with CF is just a setting which they do not understand, the sole reason of CloudFlare is to manage your DNS, provide some optimization, and some filtering to stop the bad guys. Captcha? Setting. Site down notice? Setting. Legit visitors being banned? Setting.

Maybe no one bothers to check the settings and find the variety of 100+ settings that can be adjusted to suite your needs.

NanoG6

@Zen said: Site down notice? Setting

Site noticed down while actually it is up? Where is the settings?

joepie91

@NanoG6 said: Site noticed down while actually it is up? Where is the settings?

iptables --list

NanoG6

@joepie91 said: iptables --list

Ow yeah you're right, I accidentally blocked port 80 on my iptables :)

juan_144

@Zen said: Maybe no one bothers to check the settings and find the variety of 100+ settings that can be adjusted to suite your needs.

Ha! CloudFlare works when you set it to essentially off. Otherwise yuo will have random false positives.

hAwNerk

@Zen

You have a long way to go. Trying to sound so wise yet you feel coming from an empty shell.

@Zen said: Captcha? Setting. Site down notice? Setting. Legit visitors being banned? Setting.

If you read my first post, I set my security setting to -ESSENTIALLY OFF- (I capitalized, bolded, italicized, and striked it through so you wouldn't miss it) so the captcha should be very minimal and by the way, I do not consider it "people talk about when it comes to 'errors' or 'bugs'" but rather a minor imperfection of the system and I am not out here crying as if cloudflare is causing me hell, I am just having a minimal problem and asking for opinion.

@Zen said: the sole reason of CloudFlare is to manage your DNS, provide some optimization, and some filtering to stop the bad guys.

Trying to sound Mr. Know-it-All huh! You missed CDN and Cache.

Once again a noob that didn't read up and think before posting.

Zen

@NanoG6

If it tells you the site is down, it can be related to "when I'm under attack" settings pre-emptively kicking in - of course it could also be the fact that your server is down or like joepie91 noted possibly even blocking CloudFlare since some people don't seem to understand that they're filtering and forwarding traffic..

@hAwNerk

Eh.. I've had 3000 domains on CF - I'm not trying to sound like a know it all but I'm tired of people ripping on their own stupidity. CDN/Cache is included in my comment on optimization.

I can promise you every issue you are having is related to a setting/user error. The whole captcha thing is related to stopping layer 7 floods by verifying legitimate visitors from the others. You can turn it off.

gsrdgrdghd

@hAwNerk said: You missed CDN and Cache.

I guess that falls under "provide optimization".

btw essential off != off. Try setting your security to custom and then editiing the specific settings on the security page.

Zen

@gsrdgrdghd

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hAwNerk

@gsrdgrdghd

I quote "provide some optimization". How can you place it under "some" when it is as important as "managing DNS".

Zen

That's a matter of how you read it, either way it doesn't matter how you read it but what I meant when I wrote it. I can edit it and make it 3 words more detailed if you like? But my point still stands, I included CDN/Caching as one of the features in my very short and low detailed post, you replied with what looked like pretty stupid attempts at trying to get me into a rage filled argument. I'm not mad, this topic is just played again and again so I always say the same thing,

hAwNerk

@Zen said: I can promise you every issue you are having is related to a setting/user error. The whole captcha thing is related to stopping layer 7 floods by verifying legitimate visitors from the others. You can turn it off.

I only have one issue, the captcha.

"You can turn it off." You have 3000 domains on cloudflare yet until now you believe that you can turn it off? Read the comments here especially of Damon @cloudflare: http://e1ven.com/2012/02/27/thoughts-on-cloudflare/